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18 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

Some will laugh at this, but Robert Reich and Rachel Maddow are two people I watch whenever they are on.

I honestly can't stand Maddow.  Not her politics, although she is WAY left of me... just her approach and voice drive me nuts.  I think it's a style thing, as I expect the substance to be left of my point of view and significantly

I recently discovered she is on iTunes podcasts, so quite often I listen to it.

ALSO: Obama WH account had everything on iTunes, live and archived WH Press Briefings. That ended 1/17/17, nothing from the WH since. Although they are keeping their YouTube account active everyday.

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2 minutes ago, rodg12 said:

He's been a bully his entire life and gotten away with it.  Coupled with some serious 'small man disease.'  I agree with you.

It's always interesting to see how these kind of people respond to adversity.  I remember when Jake and Elwood ran him off that bridge and into the water below he insisted on chasing them down despite many obstacles.

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1 minute ago, BobbyLayne said:

I recently discovered she is on iTunes podcasts, so quite often I listen to it.

ALSO: Obama WH account had everything on iTunes, live and archived WH Press Briefings. That ended 1/17/17, nothing from the WH since. Although they are keeping their YouTube account active everyday.

My bleeding heart "Louis Vuitton" socialist of a wife (everyone should have everything the need... as long as I can shop at Whole Foods and have my nice things) LOVES maddow.  I'm 'forced' to watch it quite a bit.

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Another point, how the hell does the Kislyak get into Trump Tower in December without the press seeing him?  That place was staked out 24/7 then.

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7 minutes ago, Sammy3469 said:

Sessions strikes me as very Trumpian in his belief that he controls the narrative and that he thinks he smarter than everyone else.  Too cute by half is my guess.

He's used to controlling the narrative in Alabama.  Things are a little bigger league in the White House.

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3 minutes ago, Koya said:

I honestly can't stand Maddow.  Not her politics, although she is WAY left of me... just her approach and voice drive me nuts.  I think it's a style thing, as I expect the substance to be left of my point of view and significantly slanted as such.

ASIDE (almost belongs in the NY thread) - one of the parents in my daughter's class lives in Maddow's building on Jane Street. She and her partner are super nice to everyone. Neither here nor there, but i always like it when big-time figures act normal. The other day I walked in front of Peter Dinklage's Volvo at a light. I waved (& immediately thought why am I waving, I'm an idiot.) Had his toddler with him, he nodded, smiled & waved. I wanted to run over and ask him if he had special pedals or something that helped him drive but I managed to keep walking without looking back.

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1 minute ago, Henry Ford said:

He's used to controlling the narrative in Alabama.  Things are a little bigger league in the White House.

Similar to Trump thinking he can run a country like his businesses. 

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3 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

It's always interesting to see how these kind of people respond to adversity.  I remember when Jake and Elwood ran him off that bridge and into the water below he insisted on chasing them down despite many obstacles.

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Just perfect!!!!

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27 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

Some will laugh at this, but Robert Reich and Rachel Maddow are two people I watch whenever they are on.

I gotta say, I hate her delivery.

 

eta: :hifive: to koya 

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1 minute ago, BobbyLayne said:

ASIDE (almost belongs in the NY thread) - one of the parents in my daughter's class lives in Maddow's building on Jane Street. She and her partner are super nice to everyone. Neither here nor there, but i always like it when big-time figures act normal. The other day I walked in front of Peter Dinklage's Volvo at a light. I waved (& immediately thought why am I waving, I'm an idiot.) Had his toddler with him, he nodded, smiled & waved. I wanted to run over and ask him if he had special pedals or something that helped him drive but I managed to keep walking without looking back.

Dinklage is awesome

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In all fairness, Kislyak is more of a Russian spy than a Russian official. 

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions is not the only member of President Trump’s campaign who spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a diplomacy conference connected to the Republican National Convention in July. At least two more members of the Trump campaign’s national security officials also spoke with Kislyak at the event, and several more Trump national security advisers were in attendance.

It's unknown what the Trump campaign officials who spoke with the ambassador – J.D. Gordon and Carter Page – discussed with him. Those who took part in the events in Cleveland said it is not unusual for presidential campaign teams to interact with diplomats.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/02/exclusive-two-other-trump-advisers-also-spoke-russian-envoy-during-gop-convention/98648190/

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3 minutes ago, Sammy3469 said:

Another point, how the hell does the Kislyak get into Trump Tower in December without the press seeing him?  That place was staked out 24/7 then.

Maybe he's blending in with reporters.  He's been attending Trump events since at least April, 2016.

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In April, Trump chose the CNI as the venue for his first major foreign policy speech, and the audience included Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak.

 

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3 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

ASIDE (almost belongs in the NY thread) - one of the parents in my daughter's class lives in Maddow's building on Jane Street. She and her partner are super nice to everyone. Neither here nor there, but i always like it when big-time figures act normal. The other day I walked in front of Peter Dinklage's Volvo at a light. I waved (& immediately thought why am I waving, I'm an idiot.) Had his toddler with him, he nodded, smiled & waved. I wanted to run over and ask him if he had special pedals or something that helped him drive but I managed to keep walking without looking back.

Did you make him stop short?

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Just now, The Future Champs said:

I gotta say, I hate her delivery.

Yeah I can't stand her.  The segment would have been a much better report without all the hyperbole and snide left-leaning personal judgement.   As it is, has a similar feel to all that Clinton foundation trash we heard from her haters prior to the election.  Is there some truth behind this?  Probably.  But I'd prefer to hear more about it from a less biased source.

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5 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

In all fairness, Kislyak is more of a Russian spy than a Russian official. 

You realize that makes it worse right? 

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Just now, Reg Lllama of Brixton said:

It's getting to the point where I think the only person that didn't talk to the MFing Russians is me.  

I just went for the vodka, honest.

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1 minute ago, packersfan said:

You realize that makes it worse right? 

He does. 

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1 minute ago, Reg Lllama of Brixton said:

It's getting to the point where I think the only person that didn't talk to the MFing Russians is me.  

I'm also at the nerd table.  Want to eat lunch together?

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6 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

Maybe he's blending in with reporters.  He's been attending Trump events since at least April, 2016.

 

Thats the sign of a good handler...

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9 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

ASIDE (almost belongs in the NY thread) - one of the parents in my daughter's class lives in Maddow's building on Jane Street. She and her partner are super nice to everyone. Neither here nor there, but i always like it when big-time figures act normal. The other day I walked in front of Peter Dinklage's Volvo at a light. I waved (& immediately thought why am I waving, I'm an idiot.) Had his toddler with him, he nodded, smiled & waved. I wanted to run over and ask him if he had special pedals or something that helped him drive but I managed to keep walking without looking back.

She does seem like a legit nice person. I'd probably enjoy an in person discussion with Maddow a great deal, as opposed to an hour of her on TV

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8 minutes ago, rodg12 said:

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Just perfect!!!!

Its amazing that the joke hasn't been made like 8 million times by now.  Not only is the resemblance uncanny, but the character is a Nazi.  It's remarkable.

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Surprised the markets aren't reacting yet to what's going on.  Clearly we're seeing a well coordinated effort between IC and leading papers to slowly encircle a guilty president and his cohorts.  Anyone think Trump emerges from this intact?  I can't imagine he's still in office six months from now, let alone 12.  

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1 minute ago, Koya said:

She does seem like a legit nice person. I'd probably enjoy an in person discussion with Maddow a great deal, as opposed to an hour of her on TV

She's damn smart and I agree she seems very nice and genuine. 

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"You don't have to be faster than the bear.  You just have to be faster than Jeff Sessions."

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43 minutes ago, Sammy3469 said:

I do think removing Sessions from the equation is the end of the first Act.  My guess is acting Dep AG Boente wants no part of this and pretty quickly appoints a Special Prosecutor.  Pure conjecture, but I think the IC wanted that SP appointed before Rosenstein got confirmed.  

Act II is going to be a doozy - should take most of the year.    Gotta say, from a Politics As A Spectator Sport POV Trump has been absolute gold.   The best.

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Just now, Henry Ford said:

Sessions being thrown to the wolves. Trump says he "wasn't aware" that Sessions met with Kislyak.  

I have two possibilities:

1. Trump knew and also has talked to the Russians. Guilty of crime and will be impeached.

2. Trump is so incompetent and chaotic that he really doesn't know what is going on. At this point, I would almost want the former 

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4 minutes ago, badmojo1006 said:

I am beginning to think Baron Trump is the only one related to the Trump campaign that didn't meet with the Russians

Don't be so sure, Ruskies like to start them early.

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1 minute ago, Henry Ford said:

"You don't have to be faster than the bear.  You just have to be faster than Jeff Sessions."

:lol:

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12 minutes ago, Reg Lllama of Brixton said:

It's getting to the point where I think the only person that didn't talk to the MFing Russians is me.  

Someone needed to talk to them besides Obama and Hillary who were trying to provoke a war with them. 

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8 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

"You don't have to be faster than the bear.  You just have to be faster than Jeff Sessions."

:lol:

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Surprised the markets aren't reacting yet to what's going on. 

Expecting a Pence bounce?

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16 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Surprised the markets aren't reacting yet to what's going on.  Clearly we're seeing a well coordinated effort between IC and leading papers to slowly encircle a guilty president and his cohorts.  Anyone think Trump emerges from this intact?  I can't imagine he's still in office six months from now, let alone 12.  

You don't think they are?  The only way the economy keeps rising like this is if Trump gets to do none of what he wants to in my opinion. (Except infrastructure stimulus, which is unlikely anyway in the amount he wants.)

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10 minutes ago, badmojo1006 said:

I have two possibilities:

1. Trump knew and also has talked to the Russians. Guilty of crime and will be impeached.

2. Trump is so incompetent and chaotic that he really doesn't know what is going on. At this point, I would almost want the former 

The latter is absolutely possible but I'll repeat what I wrote yesterday - it's hard to believe that so many people within Trump's camp/administration had contact with the Russians that he either didn't authorize or know about. The numbers are just piling up in terms of how many people have talked to them. It strains credibility to believe Trump's in the dark about all of it. 

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3 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Expecting a Pence bounce?

A Pence presidency and a Republican house and senate would be the ideal situation for risk markets.  

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Heartbroken Russian Ambassador Thought Special Meetings With Jeff Sessions Were Very Memorable

WASHINGTON—Expressing surprise and sadness at Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ repeated denials of contact with Russian officials during the 2016 presidential campaign, heartbroken Ambassador Sergey Kislyak told reporters Thursday that he thought his special meetings with the then–Alabama senator were actually very memorable. “To be honest, our two conversations hold great significance for me, and I can’t help but be upset to learn that Jeff felt otherwise,” said the tearful Russian diplomat, adding that he simply could not believe that Sessions could so nonchalantly dismiss the many hours they spent discussing the intimate details of their lives, including their innermost hopes and fears for their respective countries. “It really hurts to think that Jeff doesn’t cherish the afternoons we spent sitting in his office exchanging information about everything under the sun. These were some of the most meaningful discussions of my life, and Jeff’s writing them off like they didn’t even happen. How could he be so cruel?” Kislyak went on to say that even his subsequent communications with former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn never for a moment made him forget the precious time he and Sessions spent together.

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34 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

In all fairness, Kislyak is more of a Russian spy than a Russian official. 

:lmao:

Bro that's 95% of EVERY embassy.

US and them.

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21 minutes ago, badmojo1006 said:

Vox isn't allowing c/p right now, however I'd look at that March 2016 time frame - in fact for many of the Trumo group that's when the light went on.

Flynn made his trip to Russia in December 2015 (along with Sheriff David Clarke and Jill Stein...).

January 2016 Stephen Miller transfers to Trump's staff from Sessions'.

February 2016 Sessions is picking Trump's foreign policy team. - Who does he pick for that team? Russophiles.

There was also this conference in March 2016, which included some prominent Russians like Igor Ivanov.

The sea change has to do with:

- Prioritizing defeating Isis above all other things, including resisting Russia and defending Europe and democracy, even extending to abandoning America's leadership role and participation in global organizations like the UN, NATO & WTO.

- Looking at the immigration crisis (which btw is purposefully being driven by Russia) as a threat to western, Christian traditionalism.

- Looking at secularism and modern liberalism - also - as a threat to western, Christian traditionalism.

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30 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Surprised the markets aren't reacting yet to what's going on.  Clearly we're seeing a well coordinated effort between IC and leading papers to slowly encircle a guilty president and his cohorts.  Anyone think Trump emerges from this intact?  I can't imagine he's still in office six months from now, let alone 12.  

I'm starting to wonder if the markets are actually encouraged by Trump's weakness.

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