This.Lotta preciousness out there, but i've always preferred Western precious to Eastern. The marvelous thing is that its such a great town to get out of. Without the rain, eeeeeeevvybody would live there.
Low standards?In a world where Meryl Streep is considered overrated, I don't know what to think anymore.
this was my mindset for the past few years. finally got the opportunity to make it happen.I would love to move there or Seattle for that matter. California also is looking better now that they passed recreational. I live in the midwest and I would love to experience living in a place that is, shall we say, less conservative. People around here keep longing for the past while life passes them by.
I'm very tempted, believe me. Biggest issue is all my family is here, kids etc. I just cant justify moving that far away from everyone I know.this was my mindset for the past few years. finally got the opportunity to make it happen.
Good luck.
Come up to Seattle. Same thing with more people.I'm not in Portland proper but love living in the area. The impact of the rain is overrated IMO - winter's gray, gloomy, and cold in most of the US.
On the other hand, I've never seen a major metropolitan region - that gets regular snow - less able to handle even a dusting of it on the roads.
My niece and her husband both are employed by VQ. She told me the owners got "an offer they could not refuse" from the People's Republic of Portland. It is now just Q: https://www.facebook.com/Qrestaurantpdx/. Outstanding food and great service. Tip well.Waterfront Blues Festival is a great time to visit Portland. Not sure I could take being there more than a few days, but it's a great place to visit. I heard they closed/relocated V.Q, :(
I like Seattle a lot. I've never understood the complex many Portlanders have about it.Come up to Seattle. Same thing with more people.
What is this complex you speak of? I've tried getting into Seattle, but just haven't found the experience that so many others have. The people seem a bit more abrasive up there, and unwilling to engage.I like Seattle a lot. I've never understood the complex many Portlanders have about it.
But I REALLY like making Oregon wine so here I am.
It's a bit hard to describe and maybe my use of "complex" is unfair. What I read and hear is less about the people but more about what the city itself has to offer (attractions, restaurant scene, culture, etc.). There's a tone I read and hear locally that often comes across as dismissive of Seattle (especially vis a vis Portland) and I don't understand why. They're both great cities - I haven't seen the abrasiveness in the people that you have but have no reason to doubt what you've seen and heard.What is this complex you speak of? I've tried getting into Seattle, but just haven't found the experience that so many others have. The people seem a bit more abrasive up there, and unwilling to engage.
Yeah, I would agree they're both great cities, and probably suffer from a bit of sibling rivalry. I'm sure I've been guilty of laughing a bit when comparing the food and music scene from the two cities. Both cities can be enjoyed, probably more so by people who aren't from either.It's a bit hard to describe and maybe my use of "complex" is unfair. What I read and hear is less about the people but more about what the city itself has to offer (attractions, restaurant scene, culture, etc.). There's a tone I read and hear locally that often comes across as dismissive of Seattle (especially vis a vis Portland) and I don't understand why. They're both great cities - I haven't seen the abrasiveness in the people that you have but have no reason to doubt what you've seen and heard.
I was talking about the snow and drivers - Seattle is comical when it snows. Actually love it because it's a great excuse to ditch the office.I like Seattle a lot. I've never understood the complex many Portlanders have about it.
But I REALLY like making Oregon wine so here I am.
I doubt a Seattlean would make that kind of grammar error.Yeah, I would agree their both great cities, and probably suffer from a bit of sibling rivalry. I'm sure I've been guilty of laughing a bit when comparing the food and music scene from the two cities. Both cities can be enjoyed, probably more so by people who aren't from either.
Historically, there is no comparison.I'm sure I've been guilty of laughing a bit when comparing the food and music scene from the two cities.
Umm, Seattle is like exactly the same, if not worse, in most of those departments.I like Bend and Seattle better. Portland is fine but I hate the traffic, politicts, homeless problems, and fake outrage/protests.
Hey, cut me some slack, I might be a glass or two in...But yeah...I doubt a Seattlean would make that kind of grammar error.
Not seeing the same music vibe you are. Chicago blows this place away for music. Maybe I need to dig deeperI agree, it's both at times. The weather can get old at times for sure. Only so much gray sky and rain you can deal with. That being said, it's one of the top food cities in the country and I'd put the beer up there with any. More James Beard nominees here than you can shake a stick at (I believe six or seven this year?)
Oh, and I'd put the music scene here better than any other city other than Austin. Yes, there are plenty of hipsters here, but you can get used to it after awhile.
People drive really slow here though, for the most part. Too many Prius and Volvo's going maybe, just maybe the speed limit.
*please don't move here though, we don't need the additional traffic*
Yes, the '90's and Jimi stick out like a sore thumb for Seattle, but for the last 20 years, I'd say it's been all Portland by a wide margin. Both have had some great bands. For every Mark Lanegan from the Seattle area, I'll give you Elliott Smith and M Ward from Portland.Historically, there is no comparison.
All depends on genre and age of music. I'm thinking contemporary, singer song writers with an alternative edge (whatever that means anymore). You can go down to Mississippi Studios or Doug Fir about any day of the week and see a great act. Seattle gets the bigger acts for sure that might skip Portland, but for the smaller venues and performers, I'll take Portland any day of the week.Not seeing the same music vibe you are. Chicago blows this place away for music. Maybe I need to dig deeper
We just moved a few blocks from Mississippi Studios. I guess I need to get out more.All depends on genre and age of music. I'm thinking contemporary, singer song writers with an alternative edge (whatever that means anymore). You can go down to Mississippi Studios or Doug Fir about any day of the week and see a great act. Seattle gets the bigger acts for sure that might skip Portland, but for the smaller venues and performers, I'll take Portland any day of the week.
Wow, lucky you. Yeah, give it a shot. Best sound in town, and most intimate shows, as the place doesn't hold more than a couple hundred people. It's owned and designed by a dude who's spent a lot of time in the recording studio, and it shows.We just moved a few blocks from Mississippi Studios. I guess I need to get out more.
Looks like Sunday brunch outside isn't an option @ the new place. :(My niece and her husband both are employed by VQ. She told me the owners got "an offer they could not refuse" from the People's Republic of Portland. It is now just Q: https://www.facebook.com/Qrestaurantpdx/. Outstanding food and great service. Tip well.
To each his own. I have lived in Seattle and currently in PDX. My view may be jilted as I work downtown. Some protest is always distrupting things, and I have to navigate through an ocean of homeless everyday.Umm, Seattle is like exactly the same, if not worse, in most of those departments.
I'm originally from the east coast but live out west now. It's weird that out here the vast majority of people I talk to have never even heard of Asheville. As in, they didn't even know it was a real place.being from the east coast, portland doesn't really get all the much hype. i've been there visiting a friend before and liked it. i'd say it's underrated.
I think all of those issues have gotten progressively (play on words alert!) worse here in Seattle over the last several years.To each his own. I have lived in Seattle and currently in PDX. My view may be jilted as I work downtown. Some protest is always distrupting things, and I have to navigate through an ocean of homeless everyday.
Wasn't a bad place when moved here 11 years ago as only traffic was a huge deal then off this list but place is a dumpster fire these days and these issues seem to be doubling each year. Portland is certainly overrated.I like Bend and Seattle better. Portland is fine but I hate the traffic, politicts, homeless problems, and fake outrage/protests.
Not to mention Portland has the greatest number of strip bars per capita in the country.No city with legal weed can be overrated.
Pass some to and from work, not much talent walking into there. Quantity does not mean quality.Not to mention Portland has the greatest number of strip bars per capita in the country.
Takes lots of $$$$$$$$$$ to live their, Otis moneyWhat's your opinion on the city of Portland, Oregon?