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Zach Orr retiring

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Congenital neck condition.

Mother ####er.

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JFC

 

ETA - good luck to him

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Just as he takes over and looks great. Tough break, GL to him. 

On to the part that matters for our rosters.... is the replacement ILB on the roster already, and someone we might be able to add?

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9 minutes ago, Flying Elvis said:

Just as he takes over and looks great. Tough break, GL to him. 

On to the part that matters for our rosters.... is the replacement ILB on the roster already, and someone we might be able to add?

I don't think his replacement is currently on the roster. 

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2 hours ago, TheBottomLine said:

I don't think his replacement is currently on the roster. 

Agreed. Correa hasn't shown enough. They'll be on the market for a replacement.

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This one hurts.

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Coming out of retirement apparently 

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Posted (edited)

2 hours ago, pyite76 said:

Coming out of retirement apparently 

 

Do you have a link?  Man, my team is missing him as I know BAL does but I sure hope he's making the right decision.

 

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Edited by Bronco Billy

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Posted (edited)

Nevermind. found it at NFL.com

 

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Doctors initially told Orr he was at risk of death or paralysis by playing with the condition, which he's had since birth. But former Baylor quarterback Seth Russell told Orr he should visit Sanford Emery, a West Virginia spine specialist who treated Russell when he suffered a neck injury in 2015.

Russell's advice sparked another round of medical evaluations. Orr said several doctors have told him he's at no more risk of serious injury than a player with a fully formed spine. Doctors told Orr their only concern would be if he played with herniated discs. The herniated discs he suffered last season have subsided.

"As far as me physically, mentally, I'm ready to go," Orr said. "I'm feeling better than ever. I'm feeling like I have these past offseasons and everything like that. So I'm ready to go." 

There's another twist to Orr's story: If he chooses to play again, he can sign with any team immediately as an unrestricted free agent. If he hadn't retired, he would've been a restricted free agent this offseason.

Orr didn't file retirement papers in January and the Ravens didn't place him on their reserve/retired list because no one expected him to play again. The period to extend tenders to restricted free agents has passed without the Ravens tendering Orr -- a move the Ravens didn't consider because they assumed he would stay retired.

 

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stupid timing.... waivers run at noon today. keep it down in here! 

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I cut him in dynasty league, and biggest competition in my league picked him up today.  :yucky:

 

Looks like Ravens may have dropped the ball on this one too.  Never placed him on reserve/retired list, and never tendered him as a RFA, making him a UFA.  

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I grabbed him back in my dynasty leagues this morning.  Full credit to pyite76 for the heads-up.

On MFL he's listed with an "out" designation thanks to his free agent status, which means depending in your league rules, you may be able to stash him on IR.

Where would be the most interesting landing spots for him?  Might he return to Baltimore?  Oakland, Detroit, NO would be good situations, and I see he has a visit with the Lions already set up.

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Tennessee. Lotta money, no good starters.

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Posted (edited)

someone ahead of me grabbed him. 

thanks for nothing, pyite76. :P

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3 hours ago, massraider said:

Tennessee. Lotta money, no good starters.

Oakland, more of both

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He still has to pass a physical and make it through training camp, etc- Maybe it's a money grab, or the love of football, and I don't want to play the what if card...but one bad hit/tackle/landing and he could be paralyzed for life....only get one shot at it(life that is) walk away when you still can Zach. 

I blame you pyite76 

stop hitting up Orr on Twitter 😜

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I am going to be cautiously aggressive on waivers.  4 leagues run tonight, FAAB, but I'm not going to bid more than 2-3% on any of them.  He's gotta find a team willing to put him on the field with a condition that was described less than 6 months ago as "risking serious injury or even death".  He's gotta stay healthy,  And he was on GMFB today talking about rehabbing a shoulder as well.

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5 hours ago, Hankmoody said:
8 hours ago, massraider said:

Tennessee. Lotta money, no good starters.

Oakland, more of both

Jerry Jones is creaming his pants.

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Any news on this? I listened to some interviews and they sound promising. I think I am still in shock... I'm about to draft him...

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Dropped him when I heard he was retiring. Tempted to re-acquire now that he's attempting to continue his career. As someone mentioned already, he's listed as "Out" in MFL. In my league, he's not available to be added. That must be due to the way my commish has the settings? Or is that across all of MFL? Are those of you who have added him back playing on a different site?

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He's available in all my MFL leagues. Or rather, he WAS available.

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4 hours ago, whiskey7 said:

Dropped him when I heard he was retiring. Tempted to re-acquire now that he's attempting to continue his career. As someone mentioned already, he's listed as "Out" in MFL. In my league, he's not available to be added. That must be due to the way my commish has the settings? Or is that across all of MFL? Are those of you who have added him back playing on a different site?

That's a league-specific setting to not show players who are not on NFL rosters.  Commish can set it in the transactions settings.

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Would this guy please stop visiting places where I've got a guy in place and go somewhere else?  First DET, then the Jets and IND.  If this is any indicator, his next stop figures to be CIN or DEN.

 

Wth, go back to BAL, or over to OAK or DAL and sign the contract already.

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5 minutes ago, Arodin said:

That's a league-specific setting to not show players who are not on NFL rosters.  Commish can set it in the transactions settings.

Yep. That's what I figured. Thanks.

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13 minutes ago, Bronco Billy said:

Would this guy please stop visiting places where I've got a guy in place and go somewhere else?  First DET, then the Jets and IND.  If this is any indicator, his next stop figures to be CIN or DEN.

 

Wth, go back to BAL, or over to OAK or DAL and sign the contract already.

 

lol.... Stay the hell out of Detroit! I drafted Jarrad based on his expected role. OAK & CIN are no good, either. I would be happy with Dallas, since I couldn't get him off the wire I and have no stake in Big D.

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Wondering if I should try and sell in the next 24 hours

 

But Im thinking i will get a 5th/6th in return

 

if he  does stay fit and make a roster Im talking 90-120 tackles

 

Hold and sweat i think

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OAK makes just too much sense. They desperately need a player and mentor for a couple of younger guys, and i think the could construct a nice prove it contract for both sides.

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53 minutes ago, scothawk said:

OAK makes just too much sense. They desperately need a player and mentor for a couple of younger guys, and i think the could construct a nice prove it contract for both sides.

 

Orr is in a large sellers market right now.  Why would he sign a prove it contract?

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12 minutes ago, Bronco Billy said:

 

Orr is in a large sellers market right now.  Why would he sign a prove it contract?

Because he has a neck that needs to prove itself to be NFL capable again

Its nothing to do with his ability.

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If he signs with Detroit, I'd expect Whitehead to be cut in a corresponding move. Orr would play WILL and Davis remains at MIKE.

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15 hours ago, scothawk said:

Because he has a neck that needs to prove itself to be NFL capable again

Its nothing to do with his ability.

 

You miss the point.  There are several suitors.  If he clears their medicals - and apparently he has - there is no incentive for him to sign a prove it contract when another team will likely give him multiple years.  Why would he settle for a 1 year deal?

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It may be an incentive based deal to protect the team if his neck forces him to re-retire, but I agree he's not likely to sign a 1 year deal anywhere. 

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6 hours ago, Flying Elvis said:

It may be an incentive based deal to protect the team if his neck forces him to re-retire, but I agree he's not likely to sign a 1 year deal anywhere. 

This is my point. It might not appear to be a one year deal, but I bet it is structured to protect the team in case of any other neck issues. If he proves his neck is ok, the multiple years will kick in.

Remember when David Wilson came back? It flared up almost immediately.

I like Orr and as an owner Id like to see him in Oakland.

but my excitement will be muted for a few weeks until we see he is ok.

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On 6/30/2017 at 4:12 PM, scothawk said:

He's available in all my MFL leagues. Or rather, he WAS available.

Funny, that.

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Not being signed yet can't be a good sign.  If he hasn't found someone to roll the dice on his neck by now, will he ever?

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1 hour ago, Hankmoody said:

Not being signed yet can't be a good sign.  If he hasn't found someone to roll the dice on his neck by now, will he ever?

Seems like he decided to come back at the worst possible time. 

I would be shocked if he still wants to play and isn't on an NFL roster after week#2 in an absolute worst case scenario. 

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This isn't like the aging vets that don't have jobs yet (Barnidge, DeAngelo), this is a 24 year old that teams should be falling all over to bring in to compete and learn.  Those old guys cost a lot of money and don't really need a lot of reps so bringing them in now just serves to take valuable reps away from guys teams need to learn more about, but Orr is one of those guys that teams need to learn more about.  I suppose he could be looking for way too much money but we haven't even heard of an offer or any interest at all post-visit.  NFL teams don't miss chances to add pieces like this, there's gotta be something there if they haven't jumped yet.

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Posted (edited)

It's barely been more than a week since Orr got other medical opinions that allow him to play again.  There are allegedly up to 18 teams interested in speaking with him.  TCs don't start for a while yet.  Of course he hasn't signed yet.

 

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Edited by Bronco Billy

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any updates? Rookie/FA draft currently happening and would love to grab him at some point.

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