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The Trump Years- Every day something more shocking than the last! (6 Viewers)

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Since quotes from our president are being removed from the bomb thread, I'll post them here.  This is a man who has in the past, promoted violence against opponents. Our president's own words:

“I’d like to punch him in the face”

“Maybe he should have been roughed up”

“I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will”

“The audience hit back. That’s what we need a little bit more of”

“If you do (hurt him), I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it”

“I’ll beat the crap out of you”

“Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees”

“Part of the problem is no one wants to hurt each other anymore”

 
So it has come to this.

Dear lord........so I early voted today. All Democrats.....did not even hesitate. Anything to weaken this clowns power. And I am a registered Republican. Funny....but I never changed my party affiliation. Mainly so I can try and control the lunatic asylum and vote in primaries for what I would deem moderate Republicans. That is all been burned to the ground. I voted for Kasich and obviously it was a wasted vote (I felt he was one of the only rational and moderate guys in the last election). So freaking sad.

State of Florida FYI.

I can't take this guy....I really seriously can't believe our country has gotten to this point that a complete narcissist (with the mind and maturity of a ####### 10 year old) is in the oval office. We are living in crazy times.  

 
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So it has come to this.

Dear lord........so I early voted today. All Democrats.....did not even hesitate. Anything to weaken this clowns power.

State of Florida FYI.

I can't take this guy....I really seriously can't believe our country has gotten to this point that a complete narcissist (with the mind and maturity of a ####### 10 year old) is in the oval office. We are living in crazy times.  
Earlier in the year I was seriously thinking of voting for one Republican because he's in favor of legalizing sports betting in Iowa.  I'm not sure it's worth it anymore.

 
So it has come to this.

Dear lord........so I early voted today. All Democrats.....did not even hesitate. Anything to weaken this clowns power. And I am a registered Republican. Funny....but I never changed my party affiliation. Mainly so I can try and control the lunatic asylum and vote in primaries for what I would deem moderate Republicans. That is all been burned to the ground. I voted for Kasich and obviously it was a wasted vote (I felt he was one of the only rational and moderate guys in the last election). So freaking sad.

State of Florida FYI.

I can't take this guy....I really seriously can't believe our country has gotten to this point that a complete narcissist (with the mind and maturity of a ####### 10 year old) is in the oval office. We are living in crazy times.  
For the first time in my life I'll be voting straight Democrat.  I'm not even sure who's a D and who's an R on my ballot.  Don't care.  I will NOT pull a lever for a republican for a long time.  And I usually prefer my local pols to be R's.  Get out, all of you's.

 
If Obama had done it, Chapter 214,234:

Yashar Ali  ?
NEW: Spy agencies have learned China/Russia have intercepted calls Trump makes from his cell. China is using the info to influence US trade policy. Trump has been told he's being monitored, but refuses to stick to secure line. 

 
Love this line in the article.  

Administration officials "said they had further confidence he was not spilling secrets because he rarely digs into the details of the intelligence he is shown and is not well versed in the operational specifics of military or covert activities."

 
Love this line in the article.  

Administration officials "said they had further confidence he was not spilling secrets because he rarely digs into the details of the intelligence he is shown and is not well versed in the operational specifics of military or covert activities."
"Sure he's doing stuff 100x worse than Hillary, but he's too stupid for it to matter."

It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for 'em.

 
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Love this line in the article.  

Administration officials "said they had further confidence he was not spilling secrets because he rarely digs into the details of the intelligence he is shown and is not well versed in the operational specifics of military or covert activities."
This guy is so incandescently stupid that he is less able to damage the country than a marginally smarter man.

 
The only quibble I have with these latest posts is with the comment from Todem that he cannot believe what he sees coming out of the office of the President. I know it is just a turn of phrase but still, no one who watched and listened to him on the campaign trail should be surprised. He is exactly who we thought he was, who the residents of New York knew him to be. Lots of words come to mind in thinking about this presidency but “surprise” isn’t remotely one of them.

 
The only quibble I have with these latest posts is with the comment from Todem that he cannot believe what he sees coming out of the office of the President. I know it is just a turn of phrase but still, no one who watched and listened to him on the campaign trail should be surprised. He is exactly who we thought he was, who the residents of New York knew him to be. Lots of words come to mind in thinking about this presidency but “surprise” isn’t remotely one of them.
i dig what you are saying, but some people are busy. Some people truly do not pay attention to politics news. Some people are just late to the game when it comes to realizing trump is as bad as he is*. As long as they get on board, that meams they are a better person today then yesterday.

*i dont know if todem applies to any of those groups, but it doesnt matter. He did a great job at the voting booth and thats the important thing.

 
Trump rally location.

Not sure if the map is zoomed out for you when you click but why the hell would Trump go to this area in Wisconsin? There is nothing up there. I'm surprised there is a place that would hold 5,000 or so people for him to go speak at. Wausau and Steven's Point are the closest "cities" other than that, there is nothing in that area.

 
The only quibble I have with these latest posts is with the comment from Todem that he cannot believe what he sees coming out of the office of the President. I know it is just a turn of phrase but still, no one who watched and listened to him on the campaign trail should be surprised. He is exactly who we thought he was, who the residents of New York knew him to be. Lots of words come to mind in thinking about this presidency but “surprise” isn’t remotely one of them.
I knew exactly who he was......yet it is still shocking because it has gotten worse and worse and worse each passing month. He simply out does himself with each word that comes out of his foul mouth.

 
i dig what you are saying, but some people are busy. Some people truly do not pay attention to politics news. Some people are just late to the game when it comes to realizing trump is as bad as he is*. As long as they get on board, that meams they are a better person today then yesterday.

*i dont know if todem applies to any of those groups, but it doesnt matter. He did a great job at the voting booth and thats the important thing.
I was not late. I did not vote for that tool. I just hoped it would not be as bad as I thought it was.......and here we are. It is a ####### nightmare. 

 
Yashar Ali  ?
NEW: Spy agencies have learned China/Russia have intercepted calls Trump makes from his cell. China is using the info to influence US trade policy. Trump has been told he's being monitored, but refuses to stick to secure line. 
NYT Story here for any so interested.

When Trump Phones Friends, the Chinese and the Russians Listen and Learn

...Mr. Trump’s aides have repeatedly warned him that his cellphone calls are not secure, and they have told him that Russian spies are routinely eavesdropping on the calls, as well. But aides say the voluble president, who has been pressured into using his secure White House landline more often these days, has still refused to give up his iPhones. White House officials say they can only hope he refrains from discussing classified information when he is on them.

Mr. Trump’s use of his iPhones was detailed by several current and former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so they could discuss classified intelligence and sensitive security arrangements. The officials said they were doing so not to undermine Mr. Trump, but out of frustration with what they considered the president’s casual approach to electronic security.

American spy agencies, the officials said, had learned that China and Russia were eavesdropping on the president’s cellphone calls from human sources inside foreign governments and intercepting communications between foreign officials. ...
- This should be a scandal. Like top shelf presidency shaking scandal, but with this complete couch fire it's just on a shelf with every other disgrace he has involved himself in. The President of the United States is a walking, talking operational national security risk.

 
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So it has come to this.

Dear lord........so I early voted today. All Democrats.....did not even hesitate. Anything to weaken this clowns power. And I am a registered Republican. Funny....but I never changed my party affiliation. Mainly so I can try and control the lunatic asylum and vote in primaries for what I would deem moderate Republicans. That is all been burned to the ground. I voted for Kasich and obviously it was a wasted vote (I felt he was one of the only rational and moderate guys in the last election). So freaking sad.

State of Florida FYI.

I can't take this guy....I really seriously can't believe our country has gotten to this point that a complete narcissist (with the mind and maturity of a ####### 10 year old) is in the oval office. We are living in crazy times.  
Same for me on all of this. 

ETA: I mean, Arizona essentially is Florida. 

 
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Trump starting to find out how hard it is now that he can't ride the momentum of Obama's 8 years any more.  Across the board the two years of Trumpism are finally coming home to roost.  

We should probably buckle up for a rough couple years ahead.

 
So it has come to this.

Dear lord........so I early voted today. All Democrats.....did not even hesitate. Anything to weaken this clowns power. And I am a registered Republican. Funny....but I never changed my party affiliation. Mainly so I can try and control the lunatic asylum and vote in primaries for what I would deem moderate Republicans. That is all been burned to the ground. I voted for Kasich and obviously it was a wasted vote (I felt he was one of the only rational and moderate guys in the last election). So freaking sad.

State of Florida FYI.

I can't take this guy....I really seriously can't believe our country has gotten to this point that a complete narcissist (with the mind and maturity of a ####### 10 year old) is in the oval office. We are living in crazy times.  
The only one I struggled with here is Governor in TN.  Still ended up voting for the Dem in Dean.  Part of that was because of how far right the state house and senate have gotten and wanted a little balance.  Dean did a decent job while Mayor.  The Republican Bill Lee would be ok...Im just happy he beat out Diane Black in the primary.

Jim Cooper has been a good representative...ive met him several times and seems like a guy really trying to do whats right.  His opponent, there isn't much known about him...and I think Cooper already would have won re-election anyway.

Bredesen vs. Blackburn was an easy choice.  I don't agree with everything Bredesen has done.  He has some questionable things in his past administration surrounding sexual harassment claims of his staff (not of him, but of his staff).  His reaction and his administration's reaction was very bad.  That said...he did good things as Mayor of Nashville and as Governor of TN.  He isn't a far left guy, does reach across the aisle on things.  Contrast that to Blackburn who I have dealt with on several occasions and have thought was vile before she ever became the "Im the Trump candidate".  She needs to be out.  Just an awful person.

 
I have been having this discussion with some folks off this board, and it raises some interesting questions around Evangelical support for Trump.  With the exception of maybe sloth, Trump is having a field day with the 7 deadly sins.

Lust - his history of cheating on his wives/girlfriends and sleeping with porn stars is well documented

Gluttony - only a compromised doctor has kept Trump from being labeled morbidly obese

Greed - Countless examples of Trump's greed in his life 

Sloth - Sloth is generally defined as "inactivity"  and, for better or worse, I don't think this applies to Trump.  He may be overweight, and eat too many Big Mac's but he is constantly on the go.

Wrath - uncontrolled rage, anger, hatred, see Trump's twitter timeline

Envy - I think we see lots of Envy from Trump - his admiration of authoritarian leaders for starters, but also his wistful thoughts of a AG who would protect him, or as simple as Inauguration crowd size .  Trump was also clearly envious of Obama, and the Clintons.

Pride -  putting of one's own desires, urges, wants, and whims before the welfare of people.  Everything Trump does, is for the benefit of Trump

6 out of 7 ain't bad...but how do Evangelicals look past these in their fervent support?

 
I have been having this discussion with some folks off this board, and it raises some interesting questions around Evangelical support for Trump.  With the exception of maybe sloth, Trump is having a field day with the 7 deadly sins.

Lust - his history of cheating on his wives/girlfriends and sleeping with porn stars is well documented

Gluttony - only a compromised doctor has kept Trump from being labeled morbidly obese

Greed - Countless examples of Trump's greed in his life 

Sloth - Sloth is generally defined as "inactivity"  and, for better or worse, I don't think this applies to Trump.  He may be overweight, and eat too many Big Mac's but he is constantly on the go.

Wrath - uncontrolled rage, anger, hatred, see Trump's twitter timeline

Envy - I think we see lots of Envy from Trump - his admiration of authoritarian leaders for starters, but also his wistful thoughts of a AG who would protect him, or as simple as Inauguration crowd size .  Trump was also clearly envious of Obama, and the Clintons.

Pride -  putting of one's own desires, urges, wants, and whims before the welfare of people.  Everything Trump does, is for the benefit of Trump

6 out of 7 ain't bad...but how do Evangelicals look past these in their fervent support?
These are a few of my favorite things :whistle:

 
Trump made a particular, blatant lie last night that should not be ignored. He said:

Republicans will always protect pre-existing conditions. 100%. Democrats will not. 

What's so astonishing about this lie is that White House attorneys attempted to argue before the Supreme Court that protecting pre-existing conditions was an unconstitutional aspect of Obamacare. They lost.  And Trump has attempted to weaken these protections ever since.

And Trump is not the only one repeating this lie.  Ted Cruz did the same thing. So have several other Republicans running for office.

 
Are you guys in here going to hold up during the next 6 years of Trump winning?  I'm worried about some of you. 
I appreciate your concern, and I am honestly not sure how I'm going to hold up. I've been in a sour mood for nigh on two years now, a couple friendships are no more. I've looked at some positions in Canada but not found a job there yet--that's probably the best case scenario. I wish I could care less and just dismiss all this "winning" in a snarky post but I'm legitimately concerned about the future of our country and humanity in general. So, no, I am not doing great right now. Happy for you, though, and your tribe so keep up basking in the glory while you can. You earned the victory fair and square, and are clearly bringing America back to the greatness envisioned by our dear President. Congrats.

 
Trump has obliterated his one-week record for dishonesty, according to Daniel Dale of the Toronto Star.

Trump made 170 false claims in the second week of October, obliterating his previous record of 133, which he set in August.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2018/10/23/trump-obliterates-his-one-week-record-for-dishonesty-in-a-wave-of-pre-midterm-appearances.html
The unfortunate thing is that a ton of his supporters don't care, or explain it away. I used to think that simply pointing out how often he lied would be enough to sway minds but it turns out that people simply couldn't care less. SAD.

 
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