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The Trump Years- Every day something more shocking than the last! (9 Viewers)

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OrtonToOlsen said:
You got that from StealthyCat's "American History" page 98, right?  Yeah, I read that, too. Were you going to plagiarize the whole thing for us?
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To be fair, the Army of the Tennessee was basically built in Memphis/West Tennessee.  Sevier County is... let's say not West Tennessee.

But that Army made the Atlanta campaign.  

Edit: frankly, I'm concerned about what you're teaching our youth. It's like a white man has... oooohhhhhh.  Now I see.

 
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I'm kind of enjoying the fact that a high school history teacher has been typing for 15 minutes to school me on what the Army of Tennessee actually was.

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
You got that from StealthyCat's "American History" page 98, right?  Yeah, I read that, too. Were you going to plagiarize the whole thing for us?
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1. Don't do that. 

2. You dropped $150k on an education you could have gotten for a few bucks in late charges at the public library. 

 
Gr00vus said:
More disturbingly, no one stood up to him and told the guy his ideas are bad.
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:confused:  Just a few seconds into the clip a woman stands up and says "this is bull####" before walking out. 

 
Zow said:
:confused:  Just a few seconds into the clip a woman stands up and says "this is bull####" before walking out. 
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I don't equate making a general comment and leaving to standing up to someone and explaining what's wrong with what they're saying.

 
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Gr00vus said:
I don't equate making a comment and leaving to standing up to someone and explaining what's wrong with what they're saying.
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I've been to some council meetings. I don't know if the floor was open to the public for comment. There's usually only a limited opportunity for such and it's in the beginning. 

 
I'm giving up. Half of Americans dont vote. We deserve what we get.

I'm sticking to raising up my handful of students, tutoring the ones that can afford my help, and taking care of my dad.

 
Henry Ford said:
To be fair, the Army of the Tennessee was basically built in Memphis/West Tennessee.  Sevier County is... let's say not West Tennessee.

But that Army made the Atlanta campaign.  

Edit: frankly, I'm concerned about what you're teaching our youth. It's like a white man has... oooohhhhhh.  Now I see.
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Are you saying that "THE Tennessee" and "Tennessee" are the same thing?   

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
Are you saying that "THE Tennessee" and "Tennessee" are the same thing?   
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No, I'm saying Sherman commanded the District of West Tennessee, which the Union controlled, under Grant and the Army of West Tennessee was the Army of The Tennessee (River) and that Sherman's own escort of the "Alabama Cavalry" was primarily Tennessee soldiers.  But we don't have a "West Tennessee" anymore, it's part of Tennessee.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
so saying lynching ia cool now?
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Trump says and does a lot of really dumb stuff - so I am sort of ok piling on whenever he opens his mouth.

But, I do think this one is being blown a little out of proportion.  I think calling something a "lynching" is akin to saying someone is being railroaded.  I get the historic connotation with lynching - but its also a term that has been used quite a bit to describe how Trump feels about this process.  It just feels like this is more about kicking Trump when he is down, than any substantive outrage.

I mean, in the history of the world, I imagine more "witches" have been burned/drowned/executed than African-American lynches - yet nobody was outraged when this was all a witch-hunt - which obviously disrespects all the (mostly) women who have been falsely accused of being a witch, and then executed.

 
Kal El said:
Let's be real, they're worshiping Trump, not Jesus.
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Did you watch the video?  They actually said Amen at the end!  Although there was that one interview on the white house lawn where he said he was the second coming, so maybe that's why??

 
yak651 said:
Did you watch the video?  They actually said Amen at the end!  Although there was that one interview on the white house lawn where he said he was the second coming, so maybe that's why??
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I didn't watch it, but for them to be reacting like that to hatred, they're clearly not following Jesus. Never mind the warning He gave about people saying that they were Christ, and to not follow them.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Trump says and does a lot of really dumb stuff - so I am sort of ok piling on whenever he opens his mouth.

But, I do think this one is being blown a little out of proportion.  I think calling something a "lynching" is akin to saying someone is being railroaded.  I get the historic connotation with lynching - but its also a term that has been used quite a bit to describe how Trump feels about this process.  It just feels like this is more about kicking Trump when he is down, than any substantive outrage.

I mean, in the history of the world, I imagine more "witches" have been burned/drowned/executed than African-American lynches - yet nobody was outraged when this was all a witch-hunt - which obviously disrespects all the (mostly) women who have been falsely accused of being a witch, and then executed.
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It doesn’t mean railroaded. It means the police are handing you over to a mob to be hung by the neck until someone starts carving you up to be party favors for white kids to gawk at while they rot.  As someone probably rapes your wife or sister. Primarily because you’re black. 

 
Kal El said:
I didn't watch it, but for them to be reacting like that to hatred, they're clearly not following Jesus. Never mind the warning He gave about people saying that they were Christ, and to not follow them.
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I have no doubt you’re a good man who practices what he believes (and believes what he says he does.) In my limited experience that would make you an anomaly among the very religious Christians I know. 

 
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Mystery Achiever said:
I guess this is the place for this.
The anonymous author of this https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

is releasing a tell-all book next month, anonymously, of course. I still think it is The Conways   

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/22/anonymous-trump-op-ed-author-will-publish-book-about-president.html
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That’s always been my guess. Someone close enough to Trump with seemingly blind loyalty publicly so that he would never suspect her.

 
Henry Ford said:
I have no doubt you’re a good man who practices what he believes (and believes what he says he does.) In my limited experience that would make you an anomaly among the very religious Christians I know. 
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I obviously can't speak for them, but for me, my walk with Christ is based on the knowledge that this is a relationship, not a religion. A religion to me is based on ritual, generally doesn't change things, and usually is ceremonial. My faith doesn't fall under that, since it's about relationship, it changes over time. No two things are exactly the same, I could even read the same Bible verse at two different times, and I might get different practical advice both times(Proverbs 18:6 has helped me out a few times). A modern example for me to describe it is the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The former hasn't changed since Jefferson wrote it, whereas the latter is still being amended from time to time. It's a living document, as it were.

 
Kal El said:
I obviously can't speak for them, but for me, my walk with Christ is based on the knowledge that this is a relationship, not a religion. A religion to me is based on ritual, generally doesn't change things, and usually is ceremonial. My faith doesn't fall under that, since it's about relationship, it changes over time. No two things are exactly the same, I could even read the same Bible verse at two different times, and I might get different practical advice both times(Proverbs 18:6 has helped me out a few times). A modern example for me to describe it is the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The former hasn't changed since Jefferson wrote it, whereas the latter is still being amended from time to time. It's a living document, as it were.
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That certainly explains it. 
My issue is always with religion, it is never with a person’s faith. I applaud you for yours. 

 
beef said:
I really appreciate reading your posts.  The way you explain faith and Christianity is exactly how I feel too.  Thank you.
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You're welcome! I probably come across as crazy to some, but par for the course. 

At any rate, Trump's lies keep getting worse. Photoshopping out guys you don't like doesn't work in the modern age, with copies of the photo available everywhere.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Trump says and does a lot of really dumb stuff - so I am sort of ok piling on whenever he opens his mouth.

But, I do think this one is being blown a little out of proportion.  I think calling something a "lynching" is akin to saying someone is being railroaded.  I get the historic connotation with lynching - but its also a term that has been used quite a bit to describe how Trump feels about this process.  It just feels like this is more about kicking Trump when he is down, than any substantive outrage.

I mean, in the history of the world, I imagine more "witches" have been burned/drowned/executed than African-American lynches - yet nobody was outraged when this was all a witch-hunt - which obviously disrespects all the (mostly) women who have been falsely accused of being a witch, and then executed.
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This take surprises me. I think it was a carefully selected word for specific intent/impact.

 
BigJim® said:
This take surprises me. I think it was a carefully selected word for specific intent/impact.
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Maybe it feels different up north.  Down South that word means something very specific.  You don’t “lynch” someone who gets the death penalty, “lynching” is never used in any other context.  
 

Yeah, “crucified” has a meaning outside of Jesus, but not really anymore, you know?

 
Henry Ford said:
Maybe it feels different up north.  Down South that word means something very specific.  You don’t “lynch” someone who gets the death penalty, “lynching” is never used in any other context.  
 

Yeah, “crucified” has a meaning outside of Jesus, but not really anymore, you know?
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It's different down South, I really think. I've heard lynch tossed around up North for metaphorical things since I was a kid. I dunno...that's just my experience. 

 
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