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The Trump Years- Every day something more shocking than the last! (8 Viewers)
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In his mind, and in the mind of his supporters, he's only ruining the moment for the libs and for the never-Trump Republicans.
Also, from a sociopathic standpoint, these types of moments are crucial for establishing control over your followers. It's very important to say outrageous things to test their loyalty and to condition them to accept whatever reality Trump presents to them.
jamny
Footballguy
Yeah, Kelly and Mattis leaving was the beginning of the end for my support of Trump, besides the whole Khashoggi murder and response. I honestly dont think the Ukraine call would've happened if Kelly was still there. He is surrounded by yes men now, not "the best people". Maybe for him but not for the country.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
True, it is only wishful thinking on my part that the President blatantly lying during a press conference of this magnitude would be frowned upon by everybody.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Most perfect, awesome, press conference ever. Libs take notes cause no one will achieve 50% of this perfection.
Not sure where the lies are or exaggerations but I'm only four minutes in.
Not sure where the lies are or exaggerations but I'm only four minutes in.
cosjobs
Footballguy
yak651
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
45,000 defamation lawsuits?
Don Quixote
Footballguy
“Impeach Trump” sign now hanging in the stands. https://twitter.com/chasehughesnbcs/status/1188639982673637377?s=21
ren hoek
Footballguy
Might consider laying off 'beans' too: https://twitter.com/dicknivers/status/1074795260012847104?s=20
skol asylum
Footballguy
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
The MAGA spin is already out in force.
It's good to be booed in DC. It's the swamp doing the booing.
It's good to be booed in DC. It's the swamp doing the booing.
beef
Footballguy
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
"The fans were not booing the President!" "The fans were saying BOO for Halloween!"
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Dickies
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Watching his self image get torpedoed live on tv, I almost feel bad for him. Then I remembered that he did this to himself, and that feeling goes away.
jamny
Footballguy
I don't necessarily feel sorry for him, since he knew the world he was entering when he decided to run, but I do feel a little bad for him. I don't think he's done a great job and feel someone else should take over in 2020, but I also don't generally ascribe nefarious intent in what he's done. I think he's truly doing what he believes is the best for this country. A lifetime of always being the boss and always getting your way doesn't cut it in a world where The Art of the Deal is in compromise and flexibility.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I get what you are saying and for a lot of it I would tend to agree - but his Twitter account just can’t be explained IMO - he has to know that can’t be helping anything.
I think there might be some nefarious intent in the way he's treated people he disagrees with/believes are inferior to himself, but he does believe he's doing what's right for the nation. The biggest problem is that what he wants isn't best for the nation.
jamny
Footballguy
You would think...
It's just another reason, and probably one of the biggest, why he brings most of the abuse he gets on himself.
jamny
Footballguy
That, incompetence, inability to put capable people around him, those are up there as well.
moleculo
Footballguy
5o be fair, he did put competent people around him. When they disagreed with him, they either quit or were fired.
jamny
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I’m really concerned what a lame duck, aging, surrounded by yes men Trump would do the next four years.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
That’s not fair on any level - we wouldn’t hold any President to that standard and shouldn’t with him either. He deserves a lot of responsibility for things but not everything.
mrip541
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1188566095218860032
@ddale8: Trump urged reporters today to go check his book to see his prescient statements about Osama bin Laden.
I checked, like others have checked before. The statements do not exist: https://t.co/hIVxdIvkiq
@ddale8: Trump not only claimed the existence of nonexistent statements about bin Laden but claimed he still has people coming up to him “to this day” congratulating him on these statements he didn’t make. https://t.co/hIVxdIvkiq
I'm not sure whether it's worse if he's lying or if he really thinks that stuff is in his book and that people really congratulate him on it.
@ddale8: Trump urged reporters today to go check his book to see his prescient statements about Osama bin Laden.
I checked, like others have checked before. The statements do not exist: https://t.co/hIVxdIvkiq
@ddale8: Trump not only claimed the existence of nonexistent statements about bin Laden but claimed he still has people coming up to him “to this day” congratulating him on these statements he didn’t make. https://t.co/hIVxdIvkiq
I'm not sure whether it's worse if he's lying or if he really thinks that stuff is in his book and that people really congratulate him on it.
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The Commish
Footballguy
So one of the narratives that I keep seeing today is:
In rare public appearance in Democrat-heavy Washington, Trump gets lustily booed at Nats Stadium.
But - is that really true? I realize DC itslef is heavily Democratic - but I suspect the crowd at a Nationals World Series game largely live outside of DC in Northern Virginia and surrounding Maryland counties. What is the political make-up of those areas?
The Commish
Footballguy
At this point, who cares? The only thing to object to in that position is labeling everyone who disagrees with him as "Democrat". It's been shown that his actual base has shrunk over these three years, down to the 32-33% area from 37-38% during the election....it's much more than Democrats. I'm torn on this....on one hand I'm glad he and his campaign don't get this. On the other, it's absurdly annoying that it continues to be pushed.
ETA: It mirrors exactly the nonsense that goes on in this forum...."because you don't like Trump you're a Democrat or a 'lefty' " tripe. I get why some have to believe that but it's woefully disingenuous.
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You might be right, if he had kept advisors who knew what they were talking about around. But he fired everyone else, and surrounded himself with yes men, so I feel that yes, this is going to be his fault.
I wonder if he is really aware of his approval ratings, or if the people around him prop him up by calling the polls "fake news" and the like. He really lives in an insulated world - where he sees his fan base at rallies, and I wonder if he thinks that is indicative of the public at large. He sees negative coverage in the media that does not match what he sees in rallies, and his instinct is to attack the media for being "fake". Maybe he really does not understand how unpopular he really is.
The Commish
Footballguy
I think this is 100% the case....no question about it. You saw his reaction during the boos at the baseball game didn't you? That was reality hitting him in the face.
I wonder if he is really aware of his approval ratings, or if the people around him prop him up by calling the polls "fake news" and the like. He really lives in an insulated world - where he sees his fan base at rallies, and I wonder if he thinks that is indicative of the public at large. He sees negative coverage in the media that does not match what he sees in rallies, and his instinct is to attack the media for being "fake". Maybe he really does not understand how unpopular he really is.
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