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2 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

Here's the thing Joe - you are a good, honest, decent person and knowing what we know of you there is no doubt that most of your friends and acquaintances are the same.  You most likely wouldn't be friends with people who like this video and to be fair, I doubt there's a large percent who do.

You're kind @AAABatteries Thank you. I constantly rail on the bubble I feel like my suburban white christian friends live in. I get kind of smug about how I "get" the real world better than they do. But I may be guilty myself of being in the bubble with mostly kind and thoughtful friends who all vote Republican and thinking they're more indicative of the mainstream than they actually are. It's a good question to ask myself I think. 

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4 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

You're kind @AAABatteries Thank you. I constantly rail on the bubble I feel like my suburban white christian friends live in. I get kind of smug about how I "get" the real world better than they do. But I may be guilty myself of being in the bubble with mostly kind and thoughtful friends who all vote Republican and thinking they're more indicative of the mainstream than they actually are. It's a good question to ask myself I think. 

All of us live in our own bubble - some are smaller than others but make no mistake, nobody knows what it's like to be all things.  We make generalizations and assumptions based on our personal experiences - some are right, some are wrong but we all do it. 

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If you are disgusted with the Kathy Griffin "beheading" AND you are disgusted by this video then good for you we need more people like you.  The problem is in today's society most of the people who support Griffith as "parody" are screaming bloody murder right now pardon the pun.  Most of the people who are just saying "it is a joke lighten up" wanted Kathy dead and/or in jail. 

It just depends on what "team" you are on.  Welcome to the new America

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1 hour ago, Apple Jack said:

Saw a lady who made sure to identify herself as a grandmother of six say "it's a meme, grow up." Followed by, "get a sense of humor."

There is nothing funnier than a video of the president shooting a bunch of people in a church.

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17 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

There is nothing funnier than a video of the president shooting a bunch of people in a church.

Especially when he's murdering his political opponents and members of the press in cold blood.  I mean, if we can't share a good-natured laugh about the president violently suppressing any and all criticism, what can we laugh at?

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A little more. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/trump-video.html?module=inline

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A person who attended the conference last week took a video of the clip on his phone and had an intermediary send it to a reporter for The Times. Parts of the video were posted on YouTube in 2018 by a user with a history of creating pro-Trump mash-ups.

The organizer of the event said in a statement on Sunday that the clip had been played at the conference, saying it was part of a “meme exhibit.” He denounced the video and said his organization was looking into how it was shown at the event.

“Content was submitted by third parties and was not associated with or endorsed by the conference in any official capacity,” said the organizer, Alex Phillips. “American Priority rejects all political violence and aims to promote a healthy dialogue about the preservation of free speech. This matter is under review.”

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

A little more. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/trump-video.html?module=inline

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A person who attended the conference last week took a video of the clip on his phone and had an intermediary send it to a reporter for The Times. Parts of the video were posted on YouTube in 2018 by a user with a history of creating pro-Trump mash-ups.

The organizer of the event said in a statement on Sunday that the clip had been played at the conference, saying it was part of a “meme exhibit.” He denounced the video and said his organization was looking into how it was shown at the event.

“Content was submitted by third parties and was not associated with or endorsed by the conference in any official capacity,” said the organizer, Alex Phillips. “American Priority rejects all political violence and aims to promote a healthy dialogue about the preservation of free speech. This matter is under review.”

Maybe this is a minor quibble in the grand scheme of things, but Phillips' quote does not sound like much of a "denouncement" to me.

"content was not officially endorsed" is a neutral statement at best.

"American Priority rejects all political violence" is a vague deflection. If he truly believes that the video contains political violence, why doesn't he come out and say exactly that? This quote is similar to Trump's quotes about Charlottesville, where he off-handedly condemned "the neo-Nazis" while simultaneously supporting other alt-right marchers.

"American Priority aims to promote a healthy dialogue about the preservation of free speech". Wait, is he talking about preserving the rights of people to speak out against President, or is he talking about preserving the rights of people to create videos that glorify murder? He's laying the groundwork for a "both sides" equivalency here.

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4 minutes ago, urbanhack said:

Natasha Bertrand

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NEW: Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has been hosting secretive talks & off-the-record dinners with conservative influencers in recent months to discuss free speech and partnerships. Among the participants: Tucker Carlson & Lindsey Graham. scoop w/@dlippman

 

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8 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

Natasha Bertrand

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NEW: Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has been hosting secretive talks & off-the-record dinners with conservative influencers in recent months to discuss free speech and partnerships. Among the participants: Tucker Carlson & Lindsey Graham. scoop w/@dlippman

 

Foxbook. Actually pretty terrifying.

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Being a Christian leader means loving not just your Muslim friends, but all Muslims.  

I'm so tired of the republican party using Christianity as a means to do harm towards others.  

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5 minutes ago, beef said:

Being a Christian leader means loving not just your Muslim friends, but all Muslims.  

I'm so tried of the republican party using Christianity as a way to attack others.  

As am I. I'd like to tell them to follow the teachings of Jesus like they mean it, but they'd probably try to get Him deported for having a foreign sounding name.

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3 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

Natasha Bertrand

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NEW: Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has been hosting secretive talks & off-the-record dinners with conservative influencers in recent months to discuss free speech and partnerships. Among the participants: Tucker Carlson & Lindsey Graham. scoop w/@dlippman

 

The gist of the article is they threaten to bust up or otherwise cripple facebook as a monopoly unless he "plays ball". And if he does then cool cool cool. 

Apparently that means being able to post paid lying advertisements and micro target specific populations. 

AKA a mammoth propaganda machine for bad actors.  

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18 minutes ago, Kal El said:

As am I. I'd like to tell them to follow the teachings of Jesus like they mean it, but they'd probably try to get Him deported for having a foreign sounding name.

"love thy neighbor if he looks like thyself"

 

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31 minutes ago, Jackstraw said:

The gist of the article is they threaten to bust up or otherwise cripple facebook as a monopoly unless he "plays ball". And if he does then cool cool cool. 

Apparently that means being able to post paid lying advertisements and micro target specific populations. 

AKA a mammoth propaganda machine for bad actors.  

Delete Facebook. 

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18 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Delete Facebook. 

Did about six months ago. Haven't missed it even once. Garbage platform. Seething with BS. 

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31 minutes ago, Jackstraw said:

Did about six months ago. Haven't missed it even once. Garbage platform. Seething with BS. 

I gave up Facebook almost 3 years ago. Literally the only time I go on is on my birthday, just to say thanks.

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33 minutes ago, Jackstraw said:

Did about six months ago. Haven't missed it even once. Garbage platform. Seething with BS. 

Deleted in June. Miss having some level of connection with several people I’m unlikely to see or hear from again, which kind of sucks. But on principle, simply could not continue. Social media has really set humanity back a few decades.

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On 10/10/2019 at 7:58 PM, Sinn Fein said:

Move along people.  Nothing to see here.

 

Senior adviser to Pompeo resigns

 

Michael McKinley, a career diplomat and senior adviser to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, has resigned his position amid rising dissatisfaction and plummeting morale inside the State Department over what is seen as Pompeo’s failure to support personnel ensnared in the Ukraine controversy.

A senior officer who has held a range of diplomatic posts, including ambassador to Afghanistan, Colombia and Peru, McKinley was serving as ambassador to Brazil last year when Pompeo recruited him as a policy adviser and a conduit between his office and the career service.

Pompeo was expected to issue a statement Friday announcing his departure.

McKinley declined to comment Thursday evening.

McKinley is testifying.

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6 hours ago, [scooter] said:

"Being a Christian leader means abandoning your Muslim allies."

Do have a link to this quote from Pompeo?

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4 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

Do have a link to this quote from Pompeo?

Do you have a link to somebody who might have read what scooter wrote and believed it to be an actual quote, and not sarcasm? 

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3 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Do you have a link to somebody who might have read what scooter wrote and believed it to be an actual quote, and not sarcasm? 

I take quotes pretty seriously. Especially in this day when fake news is a hot topic. Are you saying this was a joke and he quoted Pompeo as saying it when he didn't really say it? 

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3 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:
4 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Do you have a link to somebody who might have read what scooter wrote and believed it to be an actual quote, and not sarcasm? 

I take quotes pretty seriously. Especially in this day when fake news is a hot topic. Are you saying this was a joke and he quoted Pompeo as saying it when he didn't really say it? 

I wasn't quoting Pompeo. In fact, I didn't mention him at all.

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Just now, [scooter] said:

I wasn't quoting Pompeo. In fact, I didn't mention him at all.

This was your post in response to the Pompeo article. Who is the quote from? 

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6 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

I take quotes pretty seriously. Especially in this day when fake news is a hot topic. Are you saying this was a joke and he quoted Pompeo as saying it when he didn't really say it? 

He didn’t quote Pompeo, and I’m saying that nobody should read that and regard it as a comment that somebody actually made. 

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Just now, timschochet said:

He didn’t quote Pompeo, and I’m saying that nobody should read that and regard it as a comment that somebody actually made. 

No one reasonably would.

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1 minute ago, Joe Bryant said:
2 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

I wasn't quoting Pompeo. In fact, I didn't mention him at all.

This was your post in response to the Pompeo article. Who is the quote from? 

It's from me. I said it.

That's why I didn't attribute it to anyone else.

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Just now, timschochet said:

He didn’t quote Pompeo, and I’m saying that nobody should read that and regard it as a comment that somebody actually made. 

I'm saying when your response to an article about someone is a quote, it looks like you're quoting the person. 

Who is he quoting?

In a thread where we're rightfully concerned about fake news being spread in Facebook, this is obvious. 

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2 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

This was your post in response to the Pompeo article. Who is the quote from? 

Fictitious, sarcastic quotes are used all of the time in this forum. Sometimes they are attributed to actual people, sometimes not. In just about every case it’s pretty easy to figure out whether or not it’s an actual quote. 

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2 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

It's from me. I said it.

That's why I didn't attribute it to anyone else.

You use quotation marks now to make a post?

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Just now, timschochet said:

Fictitious, sarcastic quotes are used all of the time in this forum. Sometimes they are attributed to actual people, sometimes not. In just about every case it’s pretty easy to figure out whether or not it’s an actual quote. 

Don't do that. 

We've been over this repeatedly. If you quote someone, make it accurate. 

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Just now, Joe Bryant said:

I'm saying when your response to an article about someone is a quote, it looks like you're quoting the person. 

Who is he quoting?

In a thread where we're rightfully concerned about fake news being spread in Facebook, this is obvious. 

Even if he had fictitiously quoted Pompeo, the content of the quote would make it obvious that it wasn’t real. There is no danger here that anyone would take it seriously, IMO. 

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1 minute ago, Joe Bryant said:
4 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

It's from me. I said it.

That's why I didn't attribute it to anyone else.

You use quotation marks now to make a post?

When I come up with a clever sarcastic slogan, yes. (And even sometimes when they're not so clever.)

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1 minute ago, Joe Bryant said:

Don't do that. 

We've been over this repeatedly. If you quote someone, make it accurate. 

It’s your forum. 

But- its done all the time- every day, dozens of times a day. 

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Just now, [scooter] said:

When I come up with a clever sarcastic slogan, yes. (And even sometimes when they're not so clever.)

Don't try to be "clever" with quotes. Be accurate. 

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1 minute ago, timschochet said:

It’s your forum. 

But- its done all the time- every day, dozens of times a day. 

Don't do it. 

It's exactly how fake news is spread. 

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Just now, Joe Bryant said:
1 minute ago, [scooter] said:

When I come up with a clever sarcastic slogan, yes. (And even sometimes when they're not so clever.)

Don't try to be "clever" with quotes. Be accurate. 

I was accurate.

That quote is my own invention. I said it. (I mean, I literally said it as I sat here at my computer.)

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1 minute ago, Joe Bryant said:

Don't do it. 

It's exactly how fake news is spread. 

Again, your forum your rules. 

But I respectfully disagree- sarcastic comments have nothing whatsoever to do with how fake news is spread. 

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Just now, [scooter] said:

I was accurate.

That quote is my own invention. I said it. (I mean, I literally said it as I sat here at my computer.)

It wasn't accurate and you know it. Drop it and don't do it again and move on. 

 

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6 hours ago, apalmer said:

"love thy neighbor if he looks like thyself"

Do you have a link to this quote from Jesus?

We take quotes pretty seriously around here.

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2 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Again, your forum your rules. 

But I respectfully disagree- sarcastic comments have nothing whatsoever to do with how fake news is spread. 

Your disagreement is duly noted. 

And don't ever use fake quotes here. 

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Is Mister CIA allowed to refer to himself in the third person, or is that frowned upon?  Asking for a friend.

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Just now, Mister CIA said:

Is Mister CIA allowed to refer to himself in the third person, or is that frowned upon?  Asking for a friend.

Yes ;)

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1 minute ago, Joe Bryant said:

Don't do it. 

It's exactly how fake news is spread. 

Fake news? What’s your opinion on someone who frequently claims to have read the Mueller Report yet claims that it says ‘no collusion, no obstruction’? I bet you would scold that poster that did it repeatedly for spreading fake news.

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