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6 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

It's been done. Trump was actually one of the few who figured it out quickly and walked out.

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7 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

It's been done. Trump was actually one of the few who figured it out quickly and walked out.

Well...I guess you have to give him credit for that at least.

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Did the link to Trump interviewing himself get purged from here?  Is there a reason?

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1 minute ago, sho nuff said:

Did the link to Trump interviewing himself get purged from here?  Is there a reason?

man that was great

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3 minutes ago, joffer said:

man that was great

Trying to figure out why in the world it would have been deleted?  It wasn't in appropriate, no bad language...great parody.  Yet it was possibly reported and deleted by a moderator?

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4 hours ago, IvanKaramazov said:

You have to be very careful how you phrase it on this forum, but I'm convinced that Trump is suffering from some sort of very real cognitive impairment.  I don't claim to know if he was ever a particularly intelligent person in the IQ sense, but it's blindingly obvious watching him speak 20 years ago and watching him speak now that something has broken.  Old people who don't stay mentally active -- and by all accounts, Trump has never been an intellectually curious person -- have a tendency to go way downhill.  That's not name-calling or even criticism of Trump.  It's a normal part of the aging cycle for too many people.  But I'd really like it if we weren't talking about the most powerful person on earth.

Understood, but it seems like this is who he is always, and always has been. He's not mispronouncing words because of cognitive impairment, it's because he legitimately doesn't know how to pronounce many words. He doesn't like to read. He needs bullet points at 48 point font. But none of that is new. We're just living through his lack of fitness for the office because of owning the libs, Hillary's emails, fear of losing superiority, etc. Nothing is new here.  

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On 8/2/2020 at 11:54 AM, John Blutarsky said:

I’m still waiting for this

“We will start," Obama said back in 2008, "by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family”

There is "safety in numbers, and numbers don't lie..:

You  [might] say that insurance premiums went up $4,154 under Obama, from 2008, before he took office, to 2014.

Obama's  White House will say that between 2002 and 2008 premiums went up 58%, while $4154 represented only 33%.  So instead of the projected  $7228 increase, it was only  $4154.

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/

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16 minutes ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

There is "safety in numbers, and numbers don't lie..:

You say that insurance premiums went up $4,154 under Obama, from 2008, before he took office, to 2014.

Obama's  White House will say that between 2002 and 2008 premiums went up 58%, while $4154 represented only 33%.  So instead of the projected  $7228 increase, it was only  $4154.

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/

 

 

What? I didn’t say anything about insurance premiums going up $4,154. Stop posting things that I didn’t post.

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1 hour ago, John Blutarsky said:
1 hour ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

There is "safety in numbers, and numbers don't lie..:

You [might] say that insurance premiums went up $4,154 under Obama, from 2008, before he took office, to 2014.

Obama's  White House will say that between 2002 and 2008 premiums went up 58%, while $4154 represented only 33%.  So instead of the projected  $7228 increase, it was only  $4154.

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/

What? I didn’t say anything about insurance premiums going up $4,154. Stop posting things that I didn’t post.

I'll edit.  You said you were still waiting for the $2500 in savings.  I'm pointing out where one can show you they occurred.  If you read the link you might see how both spins are versions of telling fibs with true statements.  Assuming you were an average family with average premiums you saved more than $2500 over what was projected, but the reasons that campaign the Obama touted in 2008 (adoption of EHR) or what his White House might imply in 2014 (the ACA) weren't considered at the time as much of a contributor  of this as was the Great Recession economy.

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Has anyone seen these commercials big pharmacies are running against Trump he has been railing on about, for the past few weeks?

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8 hours ago, sho nuff said:

Did the link to Trump interviewing himself get purged from here?  Is there a reason?

Whoa, just noticed that my post was deleted. I do not know the reason.

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I like how Trump feels the need to explain obvious things to obviously intelligent people. "Russia, it used to the the USSR you know, right? It wasn't always Russia, it was a communist USSR, did you know that?"

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32 minutes ago, the moops said:

I like how Trump feels the need to explain obvious things to obviously intelligent people. "Russia, it used to the the USSR you know, right? It wasn't always Russia, it was a communist USSR, did you know that?"

Almost like a kid trying to show his parents he learned something at school today.

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14 minutes ago, The General said:

Oh look he made something up

The comments the other day where he said “great generals” told him the explosion in Beirut was an attack. Perfectly normal.

you just don't get his humor

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The concept of a payroll tax holiday by executive order is... unique.

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On 1/21/2017 at 7:43 PM, avoiding injuries said:

Someone let me know when your own life is any different than it was in October. Until then, go outside and take a deep breath of fresh air. It will help. 

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Did he really say Biden will hurt the Bible?

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6 minutes ago, belljr said:

Did he really say Biden will hurt the Bible?

Does Joe not hold it correctly?

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20 minutes ago, belljr said:

Did he really say Biden will hurt the Bible?

Yes..and he will hurt god too!  😂 

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Just now, Green Balloons said:

That sounds like a wonderful place.

One of the Twitter comments said that the last time he went to Thighland it cost him $130K. 

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15 hours ago, urbanhack said:

Yes..and he will hurt god too!  😂 

I had no idea Biden was so powerful.  I mean, Trump has been saying he's weak and too feeble to be president, but if he's strong enough to hurt God, that certainly isn't true.

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12 hours ago, The General said:

Big fan of Thighland

Stormy reference?

 

She was a fast machine
She kept her motor clean
She was the best damn woman I had ever seen
She had the sightless eyes
Telling me no lies
Knockin' me out with those American thighs

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Job Creation by President:

 

Ford:  +2.6%
Carter: +12.4%
Reagan: +17.6%
H.W. Bush: +2.2%
Clinton: +20.6%
W. Bush: +1.0%
Obama: +9.2%

Trump: -4.2% ⬇️

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37 minutes ago, The Gator said:

Job Creation by President:

 

Ford:  +2.6%
Carter: +12.4%
Reagan: +17.6%
H.W. Bush: +2.2%
Clinton: +20.6%
W. Bush: +1.0%
Obama: +9.2%

Trump: -4.2% ⬇️

Are these aggregate numbers over entire presidency or annual averages?  If the former, that doesn't seem like a fair comparison given that term lengths differ.

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3 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

Are these aggregate numbers over entire presidency or annual averages?  If the former, that doesn't seem like a fair comparison given that term lengths differ.

"Change in seasonally adjusted nonfarm payrolls over presidential term"

 

Its a percentage change - rather than raw numbers.  I agree that raw numbers may not be a great metric given the difference in terms - but percentage changes are a better indicator of job creation during a given presidential term.

 

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6 minutes ago, The Gator said:

"Change in seasonally adjusted nonfarm payrolls over presidential term"

 

Its a percentage change - rather than raw numbers.  I agree that raw numbers may not be a great metric given the difference in terms - but percentage changes are a better indicator of job creation during a given presidential term.

 

Cool, so we could roughly (ignoring compounding effect) estimate, for example, Clinton at 20.6% / 8 = ~2.6% per year, Bush 41 at 2.2% / 4 = ~0.55% per year, and Trump at (roughly) -4.2% / 3.5 = ~ -1.2% per year.  That's a more fair comparison, I think.

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1 hour ago, Rich Conway said:

Cool, so we could roughly (ignoring compounding effect) estimate, for example, Clinton at 20.6% / 8 = ~2.6% per year, Bush 41 at 2.2% / 4 = ~0.55% per year, and Trump at (roughly) -4.2% / 3.5 = ~ -1.2% per year.  That's a more fair comparison, I think.

Or you could split the 2 term presidents into separate terms.

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10 minutes ago, The Z Machine said:

Or you could split the 2 term presidents into separate terms.

Yup, although that would skew the numbers a bit for Ford and Trump.

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4 hours ago, The Gator said:

Job Creation by President:

 

Ford:  +2.6%
Carter: +12.4%
Reagan: +17.6%
H.W. Bush: +2.2%
Clinton: +20.6%
W. Bush: +1.0%
Obama: +9.2%

Trump: -4.2% ⬇️

No matter how you look at the numbers, it doesn't support the narrative  that Democrats are bad for the economy. 16 years of growth and job creation under Clinton and Obama, compared to recessions under the last 3 Republican presidents. There is some luck and extrinsic factors, especially with Carter and Trump, but 16 years of growth stands on its own. Biden should bring some bar graphs to the debate.

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22 hours ago, urbanhack said:

Yes..and he will hurt god too!  😂 

The guy who had sex with a porn star a week before his kid was born and wished all the best to the consigliere of a serial pedophile (and almost certainly a pedophile herself) tells us that Biden will destroy the Bible and God?  

Maybe he means what's left of them when he is done?

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Republican Described by Own Party as 'Vile' Wins Missouri Primary Despite 'Hitler Was Right' Remark

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"Looking back in history, unfortunately, Hitler was right about what was taking place in Germany. And who was behind it," West said on a show on KCXL radio on January 23, 2017. He frequently pushed conspiracy theories and would often make homophobic, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic and racist comments on both his radio show and YouTube channel, the Star reported.

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In 2018, two of West's children spoke to the Star about their father, urging District 15 residents not to vote for him.

"I can't imagine him being in any level of government," Emily West, his daughter, said. "A lot of his views are just very out there. He's made multiple comments that are racist and homophobic and how he doesn't like Jews."

Andy West previously told the Star his father "must be stopped."

"His ideology is pure hatred. It's totally insane," he said. "If he gets elected, it would legitimize him. Then he would become a state official, and he's saying that Jews shouldn't even have civil rights."

 

Yet people still vote for him. Unbelievable times we live in. :(

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3 hours ago, Green Balloons said:

Republican Described by Own Party as 'Vile' Wins Missouri Primary Despite 'Hitler Was Right' Remark

 

Yet people still vote for him. Unbelievable times we live in. :(

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

" “there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid”."

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What is the angle with the "planned" executive orders on stimulus. I xan't imagine any of this being legal, but I also just don't understand the strategy. 

 

Is he desperate to not give funds to state and local governments?

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He has no shame

Defends political rally gatherers not wearing masks at event calling his rally a "peaceful protest"

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8 hours ago, Drunken Cowboy said:

What is the angle with the "planned" executive orders on stimulus. I xan't imagine any of this being legal, but I also just don't understand the strategy. 

 

Is he desperate to not give funds to state and local governments?

Seems pretty logical. Play hardball with Congress, then release a stimulus that benefits people through an EO.  If it’s not lawful, are the democrats going to sue or fight a stimulus package that is needed?  

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9 hours ago, Drunken Cowboy said:

What is the angle with the "planned" executive orders on stimulus. I xan't imagine any of this being legal, but I also just don't understand the strategy. 

 

Is he desperate to not give funds to state and local governments?

I just put this in the other where they said Meadows is the one holding up the Congressional bill. I wonder if he's doing that on purpose so that Trump can come and "save the day" with an EO.

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27 minutes ago, whoknew said:

I just put this in the other where they said Meadows is the one holding up the Congressional bill. I wonder if he's doing that on purpose so that Trump can come and "save the day" with an EO.

How can Trump divert a trilion dollars? It took him years to divert a fraction of that to rebuild a few miles of his wall.

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34 minutes ago, whoknew said:

I just put this in the other where they said Meadows is the one holding up the Congressional bill. I wonder if he's doing that on purpose so that Trump can come and "save the day" with an EO.

Of course he is. And then will blame the do nothing democrats. 

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3 hours ago, shader said:

Seems pretty logical. Play hardball with Congress, then release a stimulus that benefits people through an EO.  If it’s not lawful, are the democrats going to sue or fight a stimulus package that is needed?  

But he didn't do it, just say he is going to. It seems like he has hurt his leverage going forward. 

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Trump antagonizes GOP megadonor Adelson in heated phone call+

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The 87-year-old casino mogul had reached out to Trump to talk about the coronavirus relief bill and the economy. But then Trump brought the conversation around to the campaign and confronted Adelson about why he wasn’t doing more to bolster his reelection, according to three people with direct knowledge of the call. One of the people said it was apparent the president had no idea how much Adelson, who’s donated tens of millions of dollars to pro-Trump efforts over the years, had helped him. Adelson chose not to come back at Trump.

When word of the call circulated afterward, Republican Party officials grew alarmed the president had antagonized one of his biggest benefactors at a precarious moment in his campaign. They rushed to smooth things over with him, but the damage may have been done.

 

Trump being a great negotiator and businessman reminds me of "Barney Rubble, what an actor!"  :lmao:

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