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46 minutes ago, JbizzleMan said:

He reinstated two accused war criminals? 

Every day something more shocking than the last.  :kicksrock:

 

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47 minutes ago, JbizzleMan said:

He reinstated two accused war criminals? 

Three soldiers. One convicted of murder, one was charged with murder but convicted of lesser crimes, and the third was charged with murder but hadn't gone to trial yet.

All 3 have been pardoned and restored to their prior rank.

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29 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

Three soldiers. One convicted of murder, one was charged with murder but convicted of lesser crimes, and the third was charged with murder but hadn't gone to trial yet.

All 3 have been pardoned and restored to their prior rank.

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Seen in a comment on twitter.

”Trump has proven 2 things:

1.  Evangelicals were never really concerned with morality; and

2.  The Tea Party was never really concerned with deficits.”

Interesting and while a generalization...the sentiment seems overall true.

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2 hours ago, [scooter] said:

Three soldiers. One convicted of murder, one was charged with murder but convicted of lesser crimes, and the third was charged with murder but hadn't gone to trial yet.

All 3 have been pardoned and restored to their prior rank.

This is a disgrace.

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29 minutes ago, whoknew said:

This is a disgrace.

It's not as if they took a knee during the anthem. 

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On 11/14/2019 at 4:21 PM, JbizzleMan said:

Enter the Republican National Committee, which offered donors a signed copy of Triggered for anyone who donated $50.00 or more, weeks before the book came out. Junior himself penned a fundraising appeal:

Friend,

Democrats are DESPERATELY rooting for my father to fail.

They are so blinded by their hatred of our president that they would rather see America FAIL than succeed under President Trump.

Sorry liberals, that ain’t happening!

In my new book Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us, I explore the Left’s obsession with President Trump and their plan to try to silence YOUR voice.

Since you’ve been one of President Trump’s supporters, I’ve HAND-SIGNED a copy just for you!

The email concludes by saying “This limited-time opportunity ends SOON, so be sure to claim your signed copy of my new book NOW.”

But as of this writing, the signed copies are still very much available.

 

A bulk order of his book would be a convenient way for a special interest group to buy a little influence in the administration.

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Jeremy Diamond @JDiamond1

 

In an unannounced visit, Trump is getting the first part of his physical exam today per @PressSec: “Anticipating a very busy 2020, the President is taking advantage of a free weekend here in Washington, D.C., to begin portions of his routine annual physical exam at Walter Reed.”

Trump's 2 previous physical exams in office were announced ahead of time by the White House and noted on his daily public schedule. This time, the President's motorcade drove to Walter Reed unannounced, w/ reporters directed not to report the movement until arriving @ Walter Reed

 

 

This seems a little odd...

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/us/navy-seals-crimes-of-war.html
“One day, from his sniper nest, Chief Gallagher shot a girl in a flower-print hijab who was walking w/ other girls on the riverbank. She dropped, clutching her stomach, & the other girls dragged her away.” Trump is preparing to pardon this war criminal.

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Trump’s Doral resort was a last-minute addition in search for G-7 site, newly released email shows

Secret Service agents had identified four U.S. sites as finalists for next year’s Group of Seven summit — but then they were told to add a new finalist: President Trump’s Doral resort, according to an internal Secret Service email released late Friday.

“Our original itinerary included Hawaii, Utah, California and North Carolina,” a Secret Service official wrote, describing a trip that a team of Secret Service personnel took in July to examine the finalists. “By departure, they had already cut two (California and North Carolina) and added Miami on the back end.”

“Miami” meant President Trump’s resort near the Miami airport, which hadn’t been among the original 10 sites that the Secret Service team had vetted. Although vetting of possible sites had begun in late May, the official wrote on July 12 that “yesterday was the first time we put eyes on this [Doral] property.”

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So the WH lied about this previously. Huh. I don't think anyone could have seen that coming.

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2 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

Jeremy Diamond @JDiamond1

 

In an unannounced visit, Trump is getting the first part of his physical exam today per @PressSec: “Anticipating a very busy 2020, the President is taking advantage of a free weekend here in Washington, D.C., to begin portions of his routine annual physical exam at Walter Reed.”

Trump's 2 previous physical exams in office were announced ahead of time by the White House and noted on his daily public schedule. This time, the President's motorcade drove to Walter Reed unannounced, w/ reporters directed not to report the movement until arriving @ Walter Reed

 

 

This seems a little odd...

I am reading in some places that his annual physical is supposed to be in February, so this un-announced visit certainly seems a bit off.

 

This was from his last Annual Physical in February 2019:

 

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump, a fast-food and red-meat connoisseur who eschews alcohol and tobacco, is in "very good health" his physician said Friday after a four-hour physical exam at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Maryland.   

"I am happy to announce the president of the United States is in very good health and I anticipate he will remain so for the duration of his presidency, and beyond," Dr. Sean Conley, the president’s physician, wrote in a memo released by the White House.

Trump’s health has long been a subject of interest, despite a doctor’s assessment last year that he has “incredibly good genes” and was in "excellent health." The 72-year-old president doesn’t exercise regularly, beyond golf, and acknowledged last year he takes a statin drug designed to lower his cholesterol.

The president spent four hours at Walter Reed. He returned to the White House Friday evening and did not respond to shouted questions from reporters. 

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Now @NoahGrayCNN  reports: Trump's trip to Walter Reed "was previously unscheduled, a source familiar with the matter told CNN." As of Saturday A.M., the source added, the visit was not on the president's internal schedule. W.H. declined to comment on when it was scheduled. (2/2)

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On 11/15/2019 at 9:01 AM, Koya said:

We have literally decades of evidence demonstrating Trump's racism. Anyone who hasn't recognized it is either in denial, has no understanding of Trumps very public history of racist behavior, is ok with it, and/or shares those beliefs.

Can you start posting these examples so everyone can see.  I'm not sure everyone's definition of racism is the same. 

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1 minute ago, Sinn Fein said:

Holy 3-story building of text, Batman!

He wanted confirmation of Trump's decades of racism.

its a lot.

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Just now, cosjobs said:

He wanted confirmation of Trump's decades of racism.

its a lot.

Sure - but nobody is going to read that.  :shrug:

 

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1 minute ago, Sinn Fein said:

Sure - but nobody is going to read that.  :shrug:

 

Blame Trump. Its his legacy

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1 hour ago, Dickies said:

is a mental health evaluation part of his physical exam?

No - seeing unconfirmed reports that it was due to "chest pains"

And, since he left Walter Reed, I think that this is nothing out of the ordinary.  I imagine the stress he is under right now is rather high.

Politically, its been a very tough week - no matter how you think the impeachment inquiry is going, the fact that it is going at all is stressful.  Stones conviction - stress.

 

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A contributor for the Hill who writes on veterans issues is claiming that President Donald Trump visited the hospital due to chest discomfort. That’s a different story from the White House statement on Trump’s November 16, 2019 visit to Walter Reed National Medical Center, which said Trump was undergoing “portions” of a routine annual exam.

“#BreakingNews Sources tell me from Walter Reed the President was being checked out for chest discomfort. No other information is available at this time,” Andrew Vernon wrote on Twitter on the evening of November 16, 2019. Vernon’s Twitter page profile says that he is “President & CEO. Opinion Contributor @thehill. @ColumbiaMSPH Alum & @UMaine Alum. @USArmy Veteran. #GoHabsGo.

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6 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

No - seeing unconfirmed reports that it was due to "chest pains"

And, since he left Walter Reed, I think that this is nothing out of the ordinary.  I imagine the stress he is under right now is rather high.

Politically, its been a very tough week - no matter how you think the impeachment inquiry is going, the fact that it is going at all is stressful.  Stones conviction - stress.

 

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A contributor for the Hill who writes on veterans issues is claiming that President Donald Trump visited the hospital due to chest discomfort. That’s a different story from the White House statement on Trump’s November 16, 2019 visit to Walter Reed National Medical Center, which said Trump was undergoing “portions” of a routine annual exam.

“#BreakingNews Sources tell me from Walter Reed the President was being checked out for chest discomfort. No other information is available at this time,” Andrew Vernon wrote on Twitter on the evening of November 16, 2019. Vernon’s Twitter page profile says that he is “President & CEO. Opinion Contributor @thehill. @ColumbiaMSPH Alum & @UMaine Alum. @USArmy Veteran. #GoHabsGo.

I hope he recovers from chest discomfort, if that's the reason he went to Walter Reed. Interesting that just today, a major study showed that Heart disease patients with exercise-induced chest pain may not need stents. The normal procedure  for someone like Trump would include EKG and enzymes to rule out a heart attack, like Bernie just had. I'm guessing those came out negative.  It still could be signs of coronary artery disease, especially given his age and his calcification score; maybe the meds will be changed. 

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19 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

No - seeing unconfirmed reports that it was due to "chest pains"

And, since he left Walter Reed, I think that this is nothing out of the ordinary.  I imagine the stress he is under right now is rather high.

Politically, its been a very tough week - no matter how you think the impeachment inquiry is going, the fact that it is going at all is stressful.  Stones conviction - stress.

 

ETA: 

A contributor for the Hill who writes on veterans issues is claiming that President Donald Trump visited the hospital due to chest discomfort. That’s a different story from the White House statement on Trump’s November 16, 2019 visit to Walter Reed National Medical Center, which said Trump was undergoing “portions” of a routine annual exam.

“#BreakingNews Sources tell me from Walter Reed the President was being checked out for chest discomfort. No other information is available at this time,” Andrew Vernon wrote on Twitter on the evening of November 16, 2019. Vernon’s Twitter page profile says that he is “President & CEO. Opinion Contributor @thehill. @ColumbiaMSPH Alum & @UMaine Alum. @USArmy Veteran. #GoHabsGo.

Interesting. I hope he is okay

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8 minutes ago, Dickies said:

Interesting. I hope he is okay

Definitely...
 

And there is his out.

Due to health reasons from the stress caused by the dirty dems, I must resign.

Goes on to blame everything on democrats...and being so unfair.

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1 minute ago, Joe Summer said:

Why does the administration feel the need to lie about Trump's health?

Under normal administrations...I could see the lie to not create panic.

This one though would lie about it anyway to protect the ego...he has to claim to be the healthiest ever (despite it being obviously untrue)

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Edwards won in Louisiana. Another loss for Trump in a red state. 

Of course we’ll get the tweet tomorrow that the only reason the Republican was even close is because Trump showed up. 

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1 hour ago, Sinn Fein said:

Sure - but nobody is going to read that.  :shrug:

 

I read it (although I think I now have carpal tunnel syndrome from all the scrolling). 

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2 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

Sure - but nobody is going to read that.  :shrug:

 

I read it also.  Mostly just to refresh my memory.

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10 hours ago, cosjobs said:

Blame Trump. Its his legacy

Not in the real world or reality, but in here I guess. 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/opinion/sunday/fox-news-donald-trump.html

Interesting. Study done in 2012 showed watching Fox News had negative effect on understanding of current affairs. In other words, they lie, their viewers believe the lies, and it taints their understanding of reality. This has clearly gotten markedly worse since.

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I am pretty surprised that the President's health is not the top headlines of the day.  I realize there is a lot going on in DC alone - but an unscheduled trip to the Hospital, followed by a dubious claim of "parts of an annual physical" and then a day of rest - should be the top story of the day.

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3 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

I am pretty surprised that the President's health is not the top headlines of the day.  I realize there is a lot going on in DC alone - but an unscheduled trip to the Hospital, followed by a dubious claim of "parts of an annual physical" and then a day of rest - should be the top story of the day.

Video online for when he left for Walter Reed. Staff is running. Fits with narrative of chest pains and need for speed. Could as easily be stress related as a serious heart ailment, but fact there’s a lid today would suggest he didn’t check out as entirely healthy. Characteristically, we can assume we aren’t getting the truth. 

He’s scheduled to be coming to an Apple facility on Wednesday, along with Ivanka and Jared, about 3 miles from me. Wouldn’t be upset at all if that trip is cancelled. 

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Some of you may have noticed that I'm not a big Trump supporter.

But I think most chief executives would have acted similarly to an unexpected medical condition arising and not in the top 1000 things that disturb me about this administration.

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I know some of us harbor tremendous animosity toward the President (and many of which believe that is, sadly, warranted due to behaviors, actions, policies...)

That said, this is neither the time nor place for jokes when we are dealing with potential serious health issues, especially as we collectively try to make this a better community focused on constructive discussion. 
 

Hope this comment is ok by the mods - if not I’ll hide it.  Just find it unseemly to joke about ones health. 

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Just now, Mr. Ham said:

No problem. Just roll the tape for how he reacted to Hillary’s unexpected medical condition in 2016.

nothing to worry about

Jason Campbell
White House Press Secretary says Trump has "more energy than anybody else in the White House" and Jeanine Pirro says "he's almost superhuman"

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3 minutes ago, cosjobs said:

Some of you may have noticed that I'm not a big Trump supporter.

But I think most chief executives would have acted similarly to an unexpected medical condition arising and not in the top 1000 things that disturb me about this administration.

I don't think its "disturbing" - and I don't think the "cover-up", if any, is the story.

I think the story is the President might have a health issue that should be disclosed to the public.   This is not a CEO (though even then, I think public companies have a duty to report key health issues to certain employees, like the CEO).

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1 minute ago, Mr. Ham said:

No problem. Just roll the tape for how he reacted to Hillary’s unexpected medical condition in 2016.

I believe we as a nation need to move passed the ### for tat “they did it” which only serves to help excuse whatsboutisms. 
 

Just because Obama or the Dems did it doesn’t make something acceptable by Trump nor the GOP.  And vice versa. 
 

Someone needs to be the adult and lead. To do that we must move passed the transgressions on all sides and conduct ourselves as a democratic republic should, especially our elected leadership. 

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1 minute ago, Sinn Fein said:

I don't think its "disturbing" - and I don't think the "cover-up", if any, is the story.

I think the story is the President might have a health issue that should be disclosed to the public.   This is not a CEO (though even then, I think public companies have a duty to report key health issues to certain employees, like the CEO).

Is the president (and CEOs) not entitled to HIPPA protection?

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17 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Video online for when he left for Walter Reed. Staff is running. Fits with narrative of chest pains and need for speed. Could as easily be stress related as a serious heart ailment, but fact there’s a lid today would suggest he didn’t check out as entirely healthy. Characteristically, we can assume we aren’t getting the truth. 

He’s scheduled to be coming to an Apple facility on Wednesday, along with Ivanka and Jared, about 3 miles from me. Wouldn’t be upset at all if that trip is cancelled. 

I've seen this movie before. It's called Dave

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6 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

I don't think its "disturbing" - and I don't think the "cover-up", if any, is the story.

I think the story is the President might have a health issue that should be disclosed to the public.   This is not a CEO (though even then, I think public companies have a duty to report key health issues to certain employees, like the CEO).

Maybe so, but I think it serves only as a distraction with everything else going on. Unless he at least stays overnight at WR or comes out with an IV and a backless nightgown, the focus should remain mostly on the impeachment proceedings.

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3 minutes ago, moleculo said:

Is the president (and CEOs) not entitled to HIPPA protection?

With the CEOs - I think the concern is the potential for insider trading on the knowledge of a serious illness to a key employee.  But, I am going on deep memories on this one - i.e. they may not be completely accurate.

 

With the President - I assume they have HIPPA protections - but at the same time, I think public interest is such that broad details of the president's health should be known.  

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Just now, Sinn Fein said:

With the CEOs - I think the concern is the potential for insider trading on the knowledge of a serious illness to a key employee.  But, I am going on deep memories on this one - i.e. they may not be completely accurate.

 

With the President - I assume they have HIPPA protections - but at the same time, I think public interest is such that broad details of the president's health should be known.  

At some point, Trump will need to release some info, otherwise the speculation  will hurt him even more than the truth. He's 73, very overweight, has a high coronary calcification score and is taking meds to improve his lipid profile. The problem with Trump is that even when he releases some info, many people won't believe it, because of the way he dealt with the release of prior health info. 

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43 minutes ago, Koya said:

I know some of us harbor tremendous animosity toward the President (and many of which believe that is, sadly, warranted due to behaviors, actions, policies...)

That said, this is neither the time nor place for jokes when we are dealing with potential serious health issues, especially as we collectively try to make this a better community focused on constructive discussion. 
 

Hope this comment is ok by the mods - if not I’ll hide it.  Just find it unseemly to joke about ones health. 

I sort of agree...but he was released from the hospital.  We don't even know what the issue is.  Since he was released Im going to assume he isn't in any immediate danger health wise.  Sure, we shouldn’t wish poorly on him, and I don’t believe anyone has.  But some jokes seems pretty tame.  I get what you are saying and edited one of my comments out of my post.

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34 minutes ago, Mario Kart said:

I've seen this movie before. It's called Dave

I was present for two scenes being filmed in this movie... at the Orioles game, and out in Cali at my college

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52 minutes ago, Koya said:

I believe we as a nation need to move passed the ### for tat “they did it” which only serves to help excuse whatsboutisms. 
 

Just because Obama or the Dems did it doesn’t make something acceptable by Trump nor the GOP.  And vice versa. 
 

Someone needs to be the adult and lead. To do that we must move passed the transgressions on all sides and conduct ourselves as a democratic republic should, especially our elected leadership. 

I hear what you’re saying, but the President has been on a mental skid, slurring words and getting confused, and we’re supposed to act like it’s perfectly normal and okay? Oh, and the bi-product of whatever is going on is erratic behavior that’s dismantling national security and getting allies killed en masse. I’m really not all that down for being high minded and thoughts and prayery about this one. I’m sorry. I want transparency into what’s going on at the heart of national crisis. We’re supposed to have norms in this country, and we’re way out of bounds. Admittedly, it sounds dramatic, but this guy has the nuclear codes and he’s not well, physically or mentally. I think we the people deserve answers regarding his fitness to lead. 

And the Hillary comparison isn’t just ### for tat. He and his allies made the point that someone with a serious mental condition is not suitable to hold the highest office. To which, I think there is a point. 

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11 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

I hear what you’re saying, but the President has been on a mental skid, slurring words and getting confused, and we’re supposed to act like it’s perfectly normal and okay? Oh, and the bi-product of whatever is going on is erratic behavior that’s dismantling national security and getting allies killed en masse. I’m really not all that down for being high minded and thoughts and prayery about this one. I’m sorry. I want transparency into what’s going on at the heart of national crisis. We’re supposed to have norms in this country, and we’re way out of bounds. Admittedly, it sounds dramatic, but this guy has the nuclear codes and he’s not well, physically or mentally. I think we the people deserve answers regarding his fitness to lead. 

And the Hillary comparison isn’t just ### for tat. He and his allies made the point that someone with a serious mental condition is not suitable to hold the highest office. To which, I think there is a point. 

I agree with everything you said here... but all that can (and should be) accomplished without resorting to jokes is my only point. If anything, joking about the matter convokutes the serious issues at hand with his ability to perform physically and mentally.

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25 minutes ago, Koya said:

I agree with everything you said here... but all that can (and should be) accomplished without resorting to jokes is my only point. If anything, joking about the matter convokutes the serious issues at hand with his ability to perform physically and mentally.

Thanks. 

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1 hour ago, Koya said:

I agree with everything you said here... but all that can (and should be) accomplished without resorting to jokes is my only point. If anything, joking about the matter convokutes the serious issues at hand with his ability to perform physically and mentally.

Agreed. And despite what I said, I don’t wish ill on him. I do want him out of office, but am not in the camp reveling in his physical decline. I think he is mentally ill, and as such have compassion for him, and believe it would be to his benefit, and that of the nation, if we dealt with his ailments head on.

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3 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

I don't think its "disturbing" - and I don't think the "cover-up", if any, is the story.

I think the story is the President might have a health issue that should be disclosed to the public.   This is not a CEO (though even then, I think public companies have a duty to report key health issues to certain employees, like the CEO).

Agreed. Bernie’s heart attack killed my support for him as a presidential candidate. If Trump had a heart attack it would definitely have a negative impact on his support, so it would make sense they would want to keep it quiet, but it comes across as highly unethical 

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