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I get the criticism about the casino but it's not that different than the cantina where they picked up Han and Chewie. In a way the end result with the code breaker shows what Han could have done if he made different choices (although is it really the end with him?) 

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5 minutes ago, Fantasysports1 said:

Do you guys agree they should have used an attractive Asian girl instead. You have so many girls that can act and look great. It makes Finn look stupid because he could get a Daisy Ridley.

That the problem with American movies and TV; everyone - no matter who they are - are drop dead gorgeous. There are ugly and meh looking people of both sexes out there.

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13 minutes ago, Fantasysports1 said:

Do you guys agree they should have used an attractive Asian girl instead. You have so many girls that can act and look great. It makes Finn look stupid because he could get a Daisy Ridley.

They are trying to create a romance with flyer boy and Daisy I think.

Well since she literally met Poe at the end of the 2nd movie, they're either doing a piss poor job of it or it's a misdirection. I still think she goes with Kylo in the end.

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25 minutes ago, Tom Servo said:

That the problem with American movies and TV; everyone - no matter who they are - are drop dead gorgeous. There are ugly and meh looking people of both sexes out there.

But no one wants to pay to see them.

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13 minutes ago, Hang 10 said:

But no one wants to pay to see them.

If you only eat at McDonald's, all you are going to want to eat is McDonald's. 

Recently a poster here who shall go unnamed was complaining about Elisabeth Moss' appearance. Think about how bat#### that is.

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1 minute ago, Good Posting Judge said:

 

If you only eat at McDonald's, all you are going to want to eat is McDonald's. 

Recently a poster here who shall go unnamed was complaining about Elisabeth Moss' appearance. Think about how bat#### that is.

McDonald has some good cheap food.

I barely remember the Force Awakens film, I thought the Kylo and Daisy were brother and sister. LOL. Now it makes more sense. Haha.

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Just now, Fantasysports1 said:

McDonald has some good cheap food.

I barely remember the Force Awakens film, I thought the Kylo and Daisy were brother and sister. LOL. Now it makes more sense. Haha.

I think we're done here.

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3 minutes ago, Good Posting Judge said:

I think we're done here.

Yeah it makes much more sense that the two are romantically connected. Daisy doesn't really seem to be into Adam Driver though. He seems more interested lol.

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Next person to go see this again - I am curious about the final scene with Luke and Kylo Ren.

My recollection is that prior to the main attack, they showed a rebel/resistance soldier walking on the salt flats, and they showed a close-up of the red planet under his footsteps - obviously foreshadowing the "red" trail under the mono-skis.  But, I wonder if it was also attempting to foreshadow Luke's "trick".

I know in the Luke v. Kylo scenes they focused on the feet a couple of times - but I can't recall if they were showing that Luke was moving his feet, and no salt foot prints were left (or were they showing Kylo Ren's footwork?).  Or, was that entire area already cleared of the salt from the ongoing battle/laser blasts?

 

Just curious.  Thanks!

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10 hours ago, cashman88 said:

I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a detailed story outline for eps. 7-9 before they filmed TFA.

Everything I've read said that this is the case. Obviously Fisher dying changes some things. 

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I thought it was a turd. Didn't really check any boxes for me as far as story, characters, or even the action scenes . Surprised it has been reviewed as well as it has.   

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1 hour ago, Fantasysports1 said:

Do you guys agree they should have used an attractive Asian girl instead. You have so many girls that can act and look great. It makes Finn look stupid because he could get a Daisy Ridley.

I don't think about stuff like this at all actually. 

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47 minutes ago, Fantasysports1 said:

Yeah it makes much more sense that the two are romantically connected. Daisy doesn't really seem to be into Adam Driver though. He seems more interested lol.

You are one strange dude.

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17 hours ago, Insein said:

Saw it again with the kids. I was less annoyed this time but still eye rolled a lot.

Isn't this the deal with every Star Wars movie? 

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23 minutes ago, Hang 10 said:

I guess either her or her director is a liar then.

I guess it doesn't really matter how it gets done. 

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2 hours ago, -OZ- said:

I get the criticism about the casino but it's not that different than the cantina where they picked up Han and Chewie.

 

It's nothing like that. Moz's hideout in TFA was like the cantina. The casino was closer to something out of the prequels (but better I'll admit)

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2 hours ago, Fantasysports1 said:

Do you guys agree they should have used an attractive Asian girl instead. You have so many girls that can act and look great. It makes Finn look stupid because he could get a Daisy Ridley.

 

Why are some people so weird. Why does every character have to be attractive enough for you to want to ####? Do you become more interested in a storyline if the woman in it is more attractive to you? Regular, average looking people can't have importance in a Star Wars movie? 

Such a weird (and frankly misogynistic) point of view. 

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50 minutes ago, Good Posting Judge said:

Did Snoke ever really commit any crimes?

He got popped for dealing death sticks once, but that was only so he could do some quick time and up his street cred.

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2 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

Next person to go see this again - I am curious about the final scene with Luke and Kylo Ren.

My recollection is that prior to the main attack, they showed a rebel/resistance soldier walking on the salt flats, and they showed a close-up of the red planet under his footsteps - obviously foreshadowing the "red" trail under the mono-skis.  But, I wonder if it was also attempting to foreshadow Luke's "trick".

I know in the Luke v. Kylo scenes they focused on the feet a couple of times - but I can't recall if they were showing that Luke was moving his feet, and no salt foot prints were left (or were they showing Kylo Ren's footwork?).  Or, was that entire area already cleared of the salt from the ongoing battle/laser blasts?

 

Just curious.  Thanks!

Can't say for certain, because I wasn't really watching for this - but I believe the footwork is all Kylo's.

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1 hour ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

 

It's nothing like that. Moz's hideout in TFA was like the cantina. The casino was closer to something out of the prequels (but better I'll admit)

Let's go find help from a guy with an unsavory reputation, in a place of ill repute, frequented by all sorts of aliens we haven't seen before, sort of under imperial control, and escape on the ship he is flying after being chased. 

But yeah, nothing like it at all. 

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They showed it during several scenes.  On that planet when you walked on the ground you would leave red streaks.  Only when Luke walked was there no streaks.  

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4 hours ago, Fantasysports1 said:

Do you guys agree they should have used an attractive Asian girl instead. You have so many girls that can act and look great. It makes Finn look stupid because he could get a Daisy Ridley.

They are trying to create a romance with flyer boy and Daisy I think.

:wall:

Maybe Finn isn't a shallow ####.

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11 minutes ago, Dragons said:

Can't say for certain, because I wasn't really watching for this - but I believe the footwork is all Kylo's.

If u recall the area they face off is red from all the blasts.

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2 minutes ago, tommyboy said:

If u recall the area they face off is red from all the blasts.

There was definitely a part where Luke would have left prints but didn't. 

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10 hours ago, Tom Servo said:

One of my friends on FB asked an important question:

I haven't seen this posted anywhere else. It it has, I apologize. I'll try to make it spoiler free. When Luke made his 'choice' at the end, what happen to his hand? Shouldn't we have heard metal on stone and have seen it fall?

?

It was transported to the Terminator 2 set. 

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5 hours ago, GregR said:

He got popped for dealing death sticks once, but that was only so he could do some quick time and up his street cred.

"You don't want any death sticks"

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I don't normally see movies twice in the theater, especially the first weekend of release, but due to irregular circumstances I saw it the first Saturday and then again on Sunday. Other than the Leia deathfloat, I thought the movie was great on first viewing. Kylo/Ren vs. Praetorian guards was awesome. Hyperspace through the star destroyer was stunning, very well done.

I'm not one to rank and compare vs. other films, but it was just as entertaining the second time through.

Social media is why we can't have nice things.

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9 hours ago, tommyboy said:

If u recall the area they face off is red from all the blasts.

This is true and Luke walls across a red glassy surface to face off against Kylo. But it starts to "snow" salt and a layer ends up coating the arena.  Then they show Kylo leaving red marks and very clearly Luke does not.

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16 hours ago, -OZ- said:

:wall:

Maybe Finn isn't a shallow ####.

Maybe one day you can be as good in life as me. Merry Christmas.

Also I am not only top 1% in looks but in personality as well. I am a top 1% overall guy.

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1 hour ago, Fantasysports1 said:

Maybe one day you can be as good in life as me. Merry Christmas.

Also I am not only top 1% in looks but in personality as well. I am a top 1% overall guy.

Clearly. 

:mellow:

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49 minutes ago, AcerFC said:

Does it really matter though?

It does.  It is the difference between getting 200 percent return on their investment vs. 2000 percent.  

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1 hour ago, NewlyRetired said:

yikes.  Looks like the box office decline is historic (although the timing of Christmas eve likely did not help)

The Last Jedi's Gargantuan $151M 2nd Weekend Plunge Is An Epic Hollywood Choke

 

Well that's it than.. Time to shut it down.. it was a nice run though. 

;)

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30 minutes ago, Megaton said:

It does.  It is the difference between getting 200 percent return on their investment vs. 2000 percent.  

But it won't stop them from producing more like insein said. And on top of that, I doubt they even remove the director. So they don't make as much as they expected. But they still made a ton. 

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2 hours ago, AcerFC said:

Does it really matter though?

It obviously won't affect any new movies.  They are still going to come out until one of these movies loses its shirt and TLJ is going to make Disney a ton of profit (just less than expectations).

I can't say whether this would effect their choice of Johnson to helm 10-12.  We will just have to wait and see.

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Just now, Capella said:

It is odd that they opened it the week before Christmas. They had to know that second weekend would be death. 

Maybe they were banking on the jews waiting until yesterday and today. A little Chinese food before the movie. 

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1 minute ago, Capella said:

It is odd that they opened it the week before Christmas. They had to know that second weekend would be death. 

They did it very similar with TFA which opened on the 18th and Rogue 1 which opened on the 16th.

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Here is my hot take. Could be wrong. But I think I'm right

The Force Awakens was an experience that everyone wanted to be a part of  it was the start of making the prequels right. JJ was on board and nerds like us and normal people were all :popcorn:

The movie got rave reviews. And why wouldn't it. It was A new Hope packaged with some new characters. When the movie ended, there were two groups. Ones who questioned who rey was, what was Luke doing and who was Smoke. Then there were people who left enjoying it but not caring for anything else about it when they left their seat. 

Rogue 1 gets sandwiched in between. While many loved it, people like my wife who went with us, didn't hate it but was like Ok. 

So by the time this comes out, I think there was a significant amount of people who just didn't care about the continuation of the story. I'm not talking about us. We all saw it. Some saw it twice. But the ones who didn't think about it when they left the theater in 2015, didn't need to rush and see it  

Add in the fact of the mixed reviews and you get a major slide in tix sales. Just my take. And I do believe it won't matter. They will milk this cow or Thala Sire for a long time. When star wars land and the accompanying hotel opens in Disneyworld, it will only add to the universe.  

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1 minute ago, AcerFC said:

Here is my hot take. Could be wrong. But I think I'm right

The Force Awakens was an experience that everyone wanted to be a part of  it was the start of making the prequels right. JJ was on board and nerds like us and normal people were all :popcorn:

The movie got rave reviews. And why wouldn't it. It was A new Hope packaged with some new characters. When the movie ended, there were two groups. Ones who questioned who rey was, what was Luke doing and who was Smoke. Then there were people who left enjoying it but not caring for anything else about it when they left their seat. 

Rogue 1 gets sandwiched in between. While many loved it, people like my wife who went with us, didn't hate it but was like Ok. 

So by the time this comes out, I think there was a significant amount of people who just didn't care about the continuation of the story. I'm not talking about us. We all saw it. Some saw it twice. But the ones who didn't think about it when they left the theater in 2015, didn't need to rush and see it  

Add in the fact of the mixed reviews and you get a major slide in tix sales. Just my take. And I do believe it won't matter. They will milk this cow or Thala Sire for a long time. When star wars land and the accompanying hotel opens in Disneyworld, it will only add to the universe.  

The critical reviews weren't mixed. The fanboy reviews who simultaneously both want and don't want a return to the original trilogy were pretty hateful. 

Disney will look at both the critical reviews and the boat ton of money it made and just keep moving forward imo. 

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Who gave the bad reviews is irrelevant to many movie goers. Once the word gets out, it's out. The weird part is that there were some in this thread who helped spur that negativity and still went to see it again and changed their mind. Oops. 

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