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High School/Middle School potential walkout (1 Viewer)

Does having support from the parents increase the 'power' of the walk-out because it shows the Schoo

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Mr. Ected

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There has been some talk among the students in my county (Loudoun Co in NoVA) about their being a potential walk out by students in HS and maybe MS to protest our new Secretary of Education.

We received an email from the School Dept about the walkout and the discipline that the students could receive.

The high school principals of Loudoun County Public Schools are aware of a potential student walkout Friday afternoon.

Activities that disrupt instruction are against School Board policy regardless of the cause or viewpoint of those taking part.  

Principals have met with students planning the walkout and have developed plans to ensure safety procedures are followed if students leave the building. Principals also have let students know this would be treated as a disruption of the school day. The usual discipline involved with being tardy or skipping class would be applied to those taking part in a walkout.

This led me to two related questions and I figured the FFA might be an interesting place to get some answers.

1) Does having support from your parents lessen the 'toughness' of the walk-out because you know you are free from trouble?

2) Does having support from the parents increase the 'power' of the walk-out because it shows the School Dept. that the parents are involved and interested too?
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Someone posted on a FB page that surfaced recently to help deal with the President and the stuff he is doing, a question if a parent gave the students a permission to leave school if that would affect the walk-out.

 
" Principals have met with students planning the walkout and have developed plans to ensure safety procedures are followed if students leave the building. "

what the hell does this mean?

are there normal procedures for beginning/end of school that "ensure student safety?"

are they expecting kids to spontaneously burst forth from their chairs and jam the doors like they're fleeing a concert fire?

 
mr. furley said:
" Principals have met with students planning the walkout and have developed plans to ensure safety procedures are followed if students leave the building. "

what the hell does this mean?

are there normal procedures for beginning/end of school that "ensure student safety?"

are they expecting kids to spontaneously burst forth from their chairs and jam the doors like they're fleeing a concert fire?
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It is not uncommon for cars and trucks to be driving around in the vicinity of schools.  Sometimes they manage to run a kid over.  That's why we have, like, crossing guards and stuff.

 
What kind of parent would support this anyway? The general population anyway doesn't follow most of this stuff. And 16 year olds or younger even less so. These kids just want to get out of class.

 
One of the last big school walkouts resulted in Denver police officers being run over by a car and seriously injured as they were trying to safely escort the students down the street. 

Stop trying to use your kids as political tools, parents.  

 
Courtjester said:
Stop trying to use your kids as political tools, parents.  
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I'm generally in agreement but these school walkouts seem to be organized by the kids, not the parents.  This isn't like the March for Life, where Catholic schools and churches were bussing whole classes of kids to the protest.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
I'm generally in agreement but these school walkouts seem to be organized by the kids, not the parents.  This isn't like the March for Life, where Catholic schools and churches were bussing whole classes of kids to the protest.
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I am just not buying this at all. Most adults couldn't pick out Devos from a lineup let alone a middle school kid. This is all about parents planting fear in these kids heads and they are being used as tools--nothing more.

 
Courtjester said:
I am just not buying this at all. Most adults couldn't pick out Devos from a lineup let alone a middle school kid. This is all about parents planting fear in these kids heads and they are being used as tools--nothing more.
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Kids in the D.C. area tend to be pretty tapped into politics, in my experience.  Both of my daughters (ages 13 and 11) definitely know who DeVos is, and not because I've told them.  I suspect high school kids are even more engaged.  I think you're wrong that the marches themselves are parent-driven.  I do agree that at least some of the kids who do this probably just want to ditch school.  And I'm sure that most of the kids' political opinions are shaped at least in part by their parents.

 
Kids get out of school and parents feel some semblance of control and moral superiority over  a world they largely can't control.  Unfortunately, it comes at the expense of  animosity between kids whose parents fall in different political corners.  Kids that might not have otherwise noticed or cared.

Schools should be teaching kids how to collaborate, build consensus, get along, and work with those different than them, not publicly dividing them up into groups to cheer and groups to jeer.

 
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"The usual discipline involved with being tardy or skipping class would be applied to those taking part in a walkout."

what, exactly, is the discipline nowadays? 

 
jonessed said:
Kids get out of school and parents feel some semblance of control and moral superiority over  a world they largely can't control.  Unfortunately, it comes at the expense of  animosity between kids whose parents fall in different political corners.  Kids that might not have otherwise noticed or cared.
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Loudon is probably more politically diverse.  The population of my kid's middle school probably doesn't have a lot of parents in different political corners, unless there are separate corners for Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters.

 
Most school kids do not know who the hell Devos is and those who have heard the name likely don't know what hell the Secretary of Education even does.  I am sure most adults don't have a clue either.  "Oh no a Trump person has been appointed. Education is going to be ruined!!!  Let's walk out of class."  Yeah, that makes sense.   I've got news for you...education already sucks ### for most of the country.  Devos isn't likely to improve it, nor is she likely to make it worse.  The Department of Ed is largely irrelevant, IMO. 

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Loudon is probably more politically diverse.  The population of my kid's middle school probably doesn't have a lot of parents in different political corners, unless there are separate corners for Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters.
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And the handful that are conservative and don't participate get singled out, ridiculed, and made to feel inferior.  Great job teachers and parents.

Hypocrites.

 
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Quint said:
"The usual discipline involved with being tardy or skipping class would be applied to those taking part in a walkout."

what, exactly, is the discipline nowadays? 
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Slap on the wrist...probably need multiple tardies before anything happens to a kid.  Outright skipping class probably results in a detention or Saturday school of some sort.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
It is not uncommon for cars and trucks to be driving around in the vicinity of schools.  Sometimes they manage to run a kid over.  That's why we have, like, crossing guards and stuff.
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where i come from you make enough that if you lose one the operation doesn't really miss a beat

 
Kids are the same as adults. Some pay a lot of attention and are well informed. Many are clueless. Nothing wrong with the kids protesting, 

They are protesting the wrong thing though. They should be protesting the injustice that is their lack of a right to vote.

 
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Completely worthless and the kids should be punished as if they had missed a class.  Now if they were protesting a controversial firing of a teacher or some local wrongdoing fine.  The just screams I want to be "cool" and skip class.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
I'm generally in agreement but these school walkouts seem to be organized by the kids, not the parents.  This isn't like the March for Life, where Catholic schools and churches were bussing whole classes of kids to the protest.
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I'm going to pay a compliment first.  I greatly dig your posts and perspectives around here and when I'm flying through a topic (things have been moving insanely fast lately) you are one of three posters where I stop and read.

That said, from experience, the bolded is a tad....hmmm....unfair.

Good day!

 
sbonomo said:
Completely worthless and the kids should be punished as if they had missed a class.  Now if they were protesting a controversial firing of a teacher or some local wrongdoing fine.  The just screams I want to be "cool" and skip class.
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What's wrong with protest?

 
Quint said:
"The usual discipline involved with being tardy or skipping class would be applied to those taking part in a walkout."

what, exactly, is the discipline nowadays? 
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Depends but ranges from community service to suspension at my high school.

 
Ilov80s said:
What's wrong with protest?
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Nothing when you are protesting something with meaning.  Walking out of class, as a kid, is an excuse to skip school.  I will bet you dinner they won't be organizing this same protest on saturday when they won't get something out of it.  I will double that bet that the number of kids that would show up Saturday is also staggeringly lower. 

 
"if you don't like it then protest. not like that. or that. don't offend people when you do it.  i'm offended that you chose to protest that way. do it politely in a way that i can approve."

 
jabarony said:
What kind of parent would support this anyway? The general population anyway doesn't follow most of this stuff. And 16 year olds or younger even less so. These kids just want to get out of class.
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We are located close to DC here (20 minutes or so outside the beltway), and most of the parents and general population are very political.

I thought it might have been happening with the middle school, since my kids aren't in HS yet and we got the email. They must have just sent it to everyone.

EYLive said:
I say yes-yes. But this will go unnoticed by anyone that matters.
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I think based on our location it might get noticed.

Quint said:
"The usual discipline involved with being tardy or skipping class would be applied to those taking part in a walkout."

what, exactly, is the discipline nowadays? 
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It takes a couple to get something.

 
Galileo said:
Slap on the wrist...probably need multiple tardies before anything happens to a kid.  Outright skipping class probably results in a detention or Saturday school of some sort.
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Kinda surprised the threat of Saturday school didn't shut plans of this walkout down.

 
Uwe Blab said:
I'm going to pay a compliment first.  I greatly dig your posts and perspectives around here and when I'm flying through a topic (things have been moving insanely fast lately) you are one of three posters where I stop and read.

That said, from experience, the bolded is a tad....hmmm....unfair.

Good day!
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That's a fair critique.  I should have left that sentence out.

 
sbonomo said:
Nothing when you are protesting something with meaning.  Walking out of class, as a kid, is an excuse to skip school.  I will bet you dinner they won't be organizing this same protest on saturday when they won't get something out of it.  I will double that bet that the number of kids that would show up Saturday is also staggeringly lower. 
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Why would they protest on Saturday? 

 
Ilov80s said:
What's wrong with protest?
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Nothing, in a vacuum.  However, the kids should have some semblance of the issue they are "protesting".  If my kid could put together a well thought out argument of why they want to protest, the opposition's stance, what they hope to accomplish, etc., Then have at it.  That would be about 5% of highschoolers and <1% of middle schoolers.  The rest of you, get your butts back to class.  

Or, better yet, hold the protest on a Saturday.  Then see how strongly the kids feel about the issue de jour.

 
Courtjester said:
I am just not buying this at all. Most adults couldn't pick out Devos from a lineup let alone a middle school kid. This is all about parents planting fear in these kids heads and they are being used as tools--nothing more.
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So only the right should brain wash their kids?

 
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