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Advice from you baseball sharks is always appreciated.  5x5 Rotisserie obp instead of avg.  12 teams both leagues.  Keep7 but two must be pitchers.

Lester and Cueto for pitchers.  Obvious Hitters Betts and Correa.  Need to pick three of the following.

King Felix

Joseph Votto

Rougned Odor

Daniel Murphy

Jose Bautista

Carlos Gonzalez

Evan Longoria

Will answer yours

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Votto, couldn't be easier

Murphy, I really like him too

3rd one is tougher. How many OF do you start? I think CarGo is the choice either way, but might debate Longoria if you start 3.

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What's the clock on these guys? Keep forever, x amount of years?

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38 minutes ago, Limp Ditka said:

What's the clock on these guys? Keep forever, x amount of years?

Forever.

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2 hours ago, jfranco77 said:

Votto, couldn't be easier

Murphy, I really like him too

3rd one is tougher. How many OF do you start? I think CarGo is the choice either way, but might debate Longoria if you start 3.

5 OF.

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Just listen to Franco  

 

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Yeah, move Votto and Murphy to the for sure pile.

Do you have an MI spot?

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1 hour ago, trogg78 said:

Votto, Odor, Murphy.

This is where I'm leaning.

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8 hours ago, rodg12 said:

Yeah, move Votto and Murphy to the for sure pile.

Do you have an MI spot?

This is where I'm at.  Yes I have a Mi.

im going betts correa votto Murphy baring an injury.  It's really odor vs cargo at this point.

having Correa Murphy and odor in the middle pre draft is a big leg up and thus how I'm leaning.

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I agree on keeping Odor - not just position scarcity but the age consideration as well. 

 

Need your help

Keep 5 majors - forever 5 x 5 Roto, avg, not OBP

already keeping Trout, machado, Bryant and Story ( I put him on IR and therefore need to keep him)

last spot - Ian Desmond or Dee Gordon... 

Desmond could go for close to 30 in Coors, but I already have plenty of power and RBI thus far versus the need for speed - I lean Gordon but wonder if I can find cheap speed later on....thoughts?

TIA

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This isn't even particularly close for me. I keep Desmond for sure. You can always find cheap speed

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20 hours ago, Angry Beavers said:

I agree on keeping Odor - not just position scarcity but the age consideration as well. 

OF is now a more scarce position than MI thanks to a league-wide increase in OF platoons. Only 52 OF's qualified for the batting title last year. If you play in a 12 team league, that's 60 starting OFs.

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11 hours ago, RotoJedi said:

Joey Bats

Murph

Odor

 

Easy I think

Bautista wasn't an option. 

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14 teams, keep 20

Kershaw and MadBum owner is shopping both.  He has interest in my Moncada, Dahl, and Fulmer.  

 

Whats a fair offer for both sides?  I don't think I'd do all 3 for Bumgarner. Maybe for Kershaw. 

 

Thanks

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2 hours ago, bigmarc27 said:

14 teams, keep 20

Kershaw and MadBum owner is shopping both.  He has interest in my Moncada, Dahl, and Fulmer.  

 

Whats a fair offer for both sides?  I don't think I'd do all 3 for Bumgarner. Maybe for Kershaw. 

 

Thanks

I would probably consider Moncada/Fulmer for Bumgarner from either side. Moncada alone is too much to pay and Dahl/Fulmer isn't enough. I think Moncada/Dahl is too much for you to part with. You could certainly start by just offering Moncada, or offering Moncada/Dahl for Kershaw.

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5 hours ago, jfranco77 said:

I would probably consider Moncada/Fulmer for Bumgarner from either side. Moncada alone is too much to pay and Dahl/Fulmer isn't enough. I think Moncada/Dahl is too much for you to part with. You could certainly start by just offering Moncada, or offering Moncada/Dahl for Kershaw.

I was thinking along the same lines as you...  I actually got a deal done.

got Kershaw, traded Moncada, Fulmer, and Francis Martes.  I'm pretty happy with it. 

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He traded Bumgarner almost at the same time and actually got a better deal than I gave - he got Bregman and Benintendi for Bumgarner. 

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Hey bigfart27,

You need to :thumbup: the posts that actually help you here.  TIA.  You ask a lot of questions and never give any love, so....

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4 hours ago, Doctor Detroit said:

Hey bigfart27,

You need to :thumbup: the posts that actually help you here.  TIA.  You ask a lot of questions and never give any love, so....

There's two questions in here. I answered one. The other is mine in which I said thanks.  Feel free to ignore, quite sure I don't want your input.  I don't think I'm Mixon words here, no need punch out early from your day job to follow me around.

 

Not sure why your ### is so sore all the time. TIA! HTH! 

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I'm picking out of the 8 spot in my 12 team redraft. I'm bored, so been looking at some mocks and ####. Pitchers go early, so I tend to hold off until round 4 or 5 unless some super ace falls. Would you rather your first 5 rounds go like

A

Machado, Correa, Springer, JD, Carrasco

B

Harper, Turner, Freeman, Story, DeGrom

C

Rizzo, Correa, Giancarlo, Price, Beltre

:shrug:

 

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12 hours ago, Doctor Detroit said:

Hey bigfart27,

You need to :thumbup: the posts that actually help you here.  TIA.  You ask a lot of questions and never give any love, so....

that was a pretty elaborate general strategy and player value question franco answered.  i was thinking a blowie may be more appropriate

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16 minutes ago, the moops said:

I'm picking out of the 8 spot in my 12 team redraft. I'm bored, so been looking at some mocks and ####. Pitchers go early, so I tend to hold off until round 4 or 5 unless some super ace falls. Would you rather your first 5 rounds go like

A

Machado, Correa, Springer, JD, Carrasco

B

Harper, Turner, Freeman, Story, DeGrom

C

Rizzo, Correa, Giancarlo, Price, Beltre

:shrug:

 

I think I like B the best followed by A then C. I doubt I have Stanton or Beltre on a team at that price. 

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On 2/26/2017 at 4:09 PM, Angry Beavers said:

Need your help

Keep 5 majors - forever 5 x 5 Roto, avg, not OBP

already keeping Trout, machado, Bryant and Story ( I put him on IR and therefore need to keep him)

last spot - Ian Desmond or Dee Gordon... 

Desmond could go for close to 30 in Coors, but I already have plenty of power and RBI thus far versus the need for speed - I lean Gordon but wonder if I can find cheap speed later on....thoughts?

TIA

I think this one is a lot closer than others may think (caveat, unless you believe Gordon's great 2015 was fully PED fueled, and not a potential breakout)

Gordon is 28, Desmond is 31

Gordon plays 2B, and is 2 years removed from a .333 season with 58 steals - and will hit atop the lineup probably all year long.  Granted he's only a 3 category guy, but if he hits > .310 again and steals 50+ again those are pretty big categories.

Desmond is 2 years removed from a .233 season with 19 homers and 13 sb's.  .233 is a killer, and the 19 homers and 13 sb's are okay for a SS or MI guy....Desmond is not going to be MI eligible.  In fact, his role and place in the lineup at this writing is still very much in the air.  Rox have 4 OF's (Blackmon, Gonzalez, Dahl and Parra) so he's more than likely going to be a 1B (well, until Gonzalez eventually gets hurt).  And if the Rockies had any conviction in Desmond being a viable 1B, they may not invited Mark Reynolds to camp.  

Now, of course I did cherry pick the stats a bit here, but if you ask me to pick between an OF/1B player that I've got penciled in for a .250, 22 home run, 75 rbi season vs a 2B who I  have at .310 with 50 steals, and I already have Bryant Machado and Trout on my team, I may be quite tempted to fill in my IF with Gordon and then grab some out of favor OF'ers who should be quite plentiful.

The key to a sucessful roto campaign is to build stats, not necessarily build a team.  I know that sounds counterintuitive and did not come out right, but the fact is steals are not nearly as plentiful as Homers/RBI's, and if you can get a guy at 2B that fills that role, you don't need to worry about rostering the likes of JArrod Dyson, Rajah Davis, Travis Jankowski et al and have them eat a valuable roster spot hoping they get 4-5 starts per week and steal a few bases.

:2cents:

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3 hours ago, guru_007 said:

I think this one is a lot closer than others may think (caveat, unless you believe Gordon's great 2015 was fully PED fueled, and not a potential breakout)

Gordon is 28, Desmond is 31

Gordon plays 2B, and is 2 years removed from a .333 season with 58 steals - and will hit atop the lineup probably all year long.  Granted he's only a 3 category guy, but if he hits > .310 again and steals 50+ again those are pretty big categories.

Desmond is 2 years removed from a .233 season with 19 homers and 13 sb's.  .233 is a killer, and the 19 homers and 13 sb's are okay for a SS or MI guy....Desmond is not going to be MI eligible.  In fact, his role and place in the lineup at this writing is still very much in the air.  Rox have 4 OF's (Blackmon, Gonzalez, Dahl and Parra) so he's more than likely going to be a 1B (well, until Gonzalez eventually gets hurt).  And if the Rockies had any conviction in Desmond being a viable 1B, they may not invited Mark Reynolds to camp.  

Now, of course I did cherry pick the stats a bit here, but if you ask me to pick between an OF/1B player that I've got penciled in for a .250, 22 home run, 75 rbi season vs a 2B who I  have at .310 with 50 steals, and I already have Bryant Machado and Trout on my team, I may be quite tempted to fill in my IF with Gordon and then grab some out of favor OF'ers who should be quite plentiful.

The key to a sucessful roto campaign is to build stats, not necessarily build a team.  I know that sounds counterintuitive and did not come out right, but the fact is steals are not nearly as plentiful as Homers/RBI's, and if you can get a guy at 2B that fills that role, you don't need to worry about rostering the likes of JArrod Dyson, Rajah Davis, Travis Jankowski et al and have them eat a valuable roster spot hoping they get 4-5 starts per week and steal a few bases.

:2cents:

Thanks for the 2 cents. I currently have Gordon protected for the reasons you have here. Gordon may steal only 30 more bags than Desmond if everything breaks right for Desmond and not for Gordon but I given the power bats i already have, I think filling in at 2B with a speedster allows me to not reach later and accumulate statsand Gordon could practically win or put me at the top of SB's all by himself. I am glad to see someone thinking the way I am ( although we could both be wrong... LOL)

Thanks again

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If Desmond weren't playing 81 games per year in Coors I think this would be a very interesting argument.

He is though.

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9 hours ago, Peyton Marino said:

that was a pretty elaborate general strategy and player value question franco answered.  i was thinking a blowie may be more appropriate

Yeah bigfart did this last year too.  I think it stinks. 

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Gordon has the value because no one steals bases anymore, and getting 40+ and maybe mid 50s is pretty valuable.  Desmond's ADP is higher because like Mac said, he's playing in Coors half the time.  @Angry Beavers looking at your keepers you have some big bats but not a lot of steals.  Machado said he's gonna run more but you might get ten out of him.  Trout stole 30 last year but only stole 27 combined the previous two, and PECOTA thinks he'll get around 20 this year.  I like Desmond, he could be a good source of RBI in particualr batting later in that line-up.  Gordon though with the guys you already have, seems to make sense.  Guru is correct IMO.  glllllllllll

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I'm in a 14 team  man keeper league.  This is my first year taking over this team or in a baseball keeper league.  Its a H2H points league.  My keepers are:

C- W. Castillo

1B- Abreau

2B-C. Hernandez

SS- Correa

3B- Gyorko (2B, 3B & SS)

OF- Trout, Kemp, Tomas, Herrera, Danny Santana (Start 3)

SP- Smyly, Skaggs, Richards, Bauer, Hellickson and Blake Snell

I had Carlos Martinez and traded him for the 3rd overall pick and Blake Snell.  I know hold picks 2 and 3 overall in this draft.  From what I can see my pitching needs major upgrades.

My question(s) right now would be, who should I be targeting at 2 and 3?

I'm 99.9% sure the first pick of the draft will be Cody Bellinger. 

According to Fantistics the best available hitters (minus OF) that could help me would be:

Schimpf

Ryon Healy

Jose Ramirez

Of that group Healy seems to stand out as someone that could really help but I don't know if I can wait on him since I have Gyorko or if I need him, well, because I have Gyorko who is just a one-trick pony.

My pitching would seem to need a lot of attention though.  And there seems to be a ton of young arms out there like:

Rodon

Cotton

De Leon

Chad Green

Aaron Nola

Eduardo Rodriguez

Foltynewicz

Yadier Alvarez

Cotton

Jeff Hoffman

Or vets like:

Shoemaker

Gray

Matt Moore

Archie Bradley

Taijuan Walker

Should I be picking/looking at 2 from these groups?  Part of me wants to lean with Alvarez and Rodon but I'm not really sure.  What would you guys suggest?  Should I look for a prospect bat like Tyler O'Niel or just go with a Healy etc?

Thanks!

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1 hour ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

I'm in a 14 team  man keeper league.  This is my first year taking over this team or in a baseball keeper league.  Its a H2H points league.  My keepers are:

C- W. Castillo

1B- Abreau

2B-C. Hernandez

SS- Correa

3B- Gyorko (2B, 3B & SS)

OF- Trout, Kemp, Tomas, Herrera, Danny Santana (Start 3)

SP- Smyly, Skaggs, Richards, Bauer, Hellickson and Blake Snell

I had Carlos Martinez and traded him for the 3rd overall pick and Blake Snell.  I know hold picks 2 and 3 overall in this draft.  From what I can see my pitching needs major upgrades.

My question(s) right now would be, who should I be targeting at 2 and 3?

I'm 99.9% sure the first pick of the draft will be Cody Bellinger. 

According to Fantistics the best available hitters (minus OF) that could help me would be:

Schimpf

Ryon Healy

Jose Ramirez

Of that group Healy seems to stand out as someone that could really help but I don't know if I can wait on him since I have Gyorko or if I need him, well, because I have Gyorko who is just a one-trick pony.

My pitching would seem to need a lot of attention though.  And there seems to be a ton of young arms out there like:

Rodon

Cotton

De Leon

Chad Green

Aaron Nola

Eduardo Rodriguez

Foltynewicz

Yadier Alvarez

Cotton

Jeff Hoffman

Or vets like:

Shoemaker

Gray

Matt Moore

Archie Bradley

Taijuan Walker

Should I be picking/looking at 2 from these groups?  Part of me wants to lean with Alvarez and Rodon but I'm not really sure.  What would you guys suggest?  Should I look for a prospect bat like Tyler O'Niel or just go with a Healy etc?

Thanks!

Jose Ramirez and Jon Gray would be my picks.

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7 minutes ago, rodg12 said:

Jose Ramirez and Jon Gray would be my picks.

Sorry. Jon Gray was kept. That's Sonny Gray. 

 

What do do you like about Rameriz over Healy? 

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12 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

Sorry. Jon Gray was kept. That's Sonny Gray. 

 

What do do you like about Rameriz over Healy? 

I like the SBs by Ramirez.  That's the main differentiator.  Wouldn't be outlandish to grab both guys.  Of the pitchers, I like Cotton or Nola best.

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Rodon and Nola seem like the best SP options to me. 

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How much should I be weighing the future? This Yadier Alvarez reads like he'll end up as possible the #1 prospect in baseball next year and may even get time this season. 

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33 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

How much should I be weighing the future? This Yadier Alvarez reads like he'll end up as possible the #1 prospect in baseball next year and may even get time this season. 

As far as that goes...

Can you keep forever with no penalty?  If so, and you've got the roster space I think it's worth holding a top guy or two if they're close.  If they're way off like Kevin Maitan, I'd probably hold off unless rosters are huge. 

Also is the team in a spot to be competitive?  If you're two years away, I'd prob be more apt to hold 2-3 top-end prospects (pending roster size) than if I'm a competitor and need those spots to win. 

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15 minutes ago, bigmarc27 said:

As far as that goes...

Can you keep forever with no penalty?  If so, and you've got the roster space I think it's worth holding a top guy or two if they're close.  If they're way off like Kevin Maitan, I'd probably hold off unless rosters are huge. 

Also is the team in a spot to be competitive?  If you're two years away, I'd prob be more apt to hold 2-3 top-end prospects (pending roster size) than if I'm a competitor and need those spots to win. 

Good questions.

Yes, we can keep forever with not penalty.  We have 16 keepers and total rosters are 29.

As far as being competitive, this is where I'm not really sure.  With Abreau, Correa and my OF my bats are definitely solid.  The pitching is what appears to be lacking. With that said I think I'm a couple years away.

I was originally leaning toward a Rodon and Healy combo but wasn't sure if I should just go pitching at 2 and 3 overall and ride with Gyorko at 3rd base.  The more digging I did the more upside I saw with some of the pitchers. At the same time I didn't want to miss on guys like Rodon or Nola since they have a year under their belt and could contribute right away. I have until the 25th but wanted to see what more experienced players thought.  The Alvarez kid is really growing on me though lol.

 

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54 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

Good questions.

Yes, we can keep forever with not penalty.  We have 16 keepers and total rosters are 29.

As far as being competitive, this is where I'm not really sure.  With Abreau, Correa and my OF my bats are definitely solid.  The pitching is what appears to be lacking. With that said I think I'm a couple years away.

I was originally leaning toward a Rodon and Healy combo but wasn't sure if I should just go pitching at 2 and 3 overall and ride with Gyorko at 3rd base.  The more digging I did the more upside I saw with some of the pitchers. At the same time I didn't want to miss on guys like Rodon or Nola since they have a year under their belt and could contribute right away. I have until the 25th but wanted to see what more experienced players thought.  The Alvarez kid is really growing on me though lol.

 

Is it a weekly or daily transactions league?

In H2H points especially, streaming pitchers is a very effective strategy.  Even in a 14 team league, there should be guys available to pick up each week.

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17 minutes ago, rodg12 said:

Is it a weekly or daily transactions league?

In H2H points especially, streaming pitchers is a very effective strategy.  Even in a 14 team league, there should be guys available to pick up each week.

Its weekly.  We submit our line-ups Monday morning for the week as well so everyone is locked in

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I just took over a team in a friends head to head points league, haven't done anything but roto in years. Any advice on sites for custom rankings?

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