DE Myles Garrett, CLE (1 Viewer)

Appearing on the Dan Patrick Show Tuesday night, NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah said, "I haven't talked to one personnel guy that has an issue with Myles Garrett and his effort."
This has gotten some media attention in recent days, likely in a plot from some other team in trying to somehow scare the Browns off Garrett at No. 1 overall. But it's simply make believe, and world-class bonehead and ex-NFL Network "talent" Warren Sapp added fuel to it by calling Garrett out earlier this week for being "lazy". ESPN's Todd McShay ripped Sapp's evaluation on Tuesday, and some have even questioned if Sapp has ever even seen Garrett play a snap. We doubt it.

 
 
Source: Dan Patrick Show 
Apr 25 - 10:58 PM

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Andy Dufresne said:

Are people really putting any credence into something Warren Sapp said? Guy's an idiot.

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psychobillies said:

Of course not, but I saw the same thing.  He takes plays off and is just not that good against the run.  Hes a good pass rusher, but I just can't believe that he is considered a no brainer #1 overall pick.  Where's the game that he took over?  Where's the dominance?  He keeps talking about punishing teams that pass on him.  Who did he "punish" in the SEC?  4.5 of his 8.5 sacks last year came against UTSA. 

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Faust said:

Myles Garrett Watch: They lined up against him and lived to tell the tale

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psychobillies said:

Did they just go back to his high school competitors to find examples of dominance?   Really?  Hell, it might be worse than I thought.

@Andy Dufresne, I respect the hell out of your contributions to the board, especially at this time of year.  I know you're a big fan, what am I missing?

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matuski said:

You are taking a strong stance against a guy while apparently acknowledging you don't know much about him.

I can make a prediction for you... dud on the Browns (I make this prediction regardless of player/position), stud on the 9ers.

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psychobillies said:

Did they just go back to his high school competitors to find examples of dominance?   Really?  Hell, it might be worse than I thought.

@Andy Dufresne, I respect the hell out of your contributions to the board, especially at this time of year.  I know you're a big fan, what am I missing?

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psychobillies said:

I wouldn't say I don't know much about him.  I watched a bunch if aTm' s big games.  In particular LSU, but also Bama, ole miss, Auburn.  Dude was practically a ghost for three years, and it wasn't because they schemed around him.  There were very few double or triple teams.  I acknowledge his incredible athleticism, but I just don't understand how he's the best player in this draft.  Andy is very articulate with his opinions so I thought he might clear it up for me.  That's all.

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Andy Dufresne said:

All he needs to be #1 is the best player in the draft at one of the premium positions. Is he Clowney or Mario Williams or "fill in the blank". I dunno.

But from everything I've seen and everything I've read from people who know such things he's the obvious best player in this draft.

Who would you select over him? 

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psychobillies said:

I wouldn't say I don't know much about him.  I watched a bunch if aTm' s big games.  In particular LSU, but also Bama, ole miss, Auburn.  Dude was practically a ghost for three years, and it wasn't because they schemed around him.  There were very few double or triple teams.  I acknowledge his incredible athleticism, but I just don't understand how he's the best player in this draft.  Andy is very articulate with his opinions so I thought he might clear it up for me.  That's all.

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psychobillies said:

Off the top of my head, I'd take Jonathan Allen, maybe Solomon Thomas.   I know safeties don't go #1, but Jamal Adams is probably the best player in the draft.  I'd take Trubisky over him. 

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Andy Dufresne said:

Allen has health questions.

Trubisky has way more question marks as a QB than Garrett has as a DE.

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psychobillies said:

   I know safeties don't go #1, but Jamal Adams is probably the best player in the draft.

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The Browns will select Texas A&M EDGE Myles Garrett with the No. 1 overall pick, according to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Cabot cites "multiple league sources." Rumors have swirled over the past 24 hours that the Browns would audible off Garrett to take UNC's Mitch Trubisky at No. 1. Numerous plugged-in draft writers (Mel Kiper, Todd McShay and Bob McGinn, to name three) predicted just that in their final mock drafts. While it might appear that cooler heads have prevailed here, Cabot wrote that "some [in the Browns' brass] have known for a while that Garrett was the pick." The Browns are currently trying to trade back into the top-10, from No. 12, to acquire Trubisky. Between the No. 33 overall pick (the first in Round 2) and three second-round picks in 2018, Cleveland has plenty of trade ammunition.

 
 
Source: Cleveland Plain-Dealer 
Apr 27 - 4:45 PM

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Getinthemix said:

As a Texans fan his tape reminds me of a poor mans Mario.   I would want no part of that.  Seems to be indifferent on the field. 

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– The No. 1 overall pick looked as quick as advertised. Myles Garrett is fast for a guy that is on the plus side of 270. Garrett’s instincts, athleticism and quickness were on display Friday as he looked as quick getting off at the snap as he did at Texas A&M. Aside from turning down a chance to go to a Cavs playoff game so he could work out at his hotel, Garrett was also last off the practice field as he and Larry Ogunjobi stayed behind to get in a little extra work before hitting the showers. Nothing but positives from Garrett on Day 1.

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Joe Thomas impressed by Myles Garrett in 1st matchup, says he has total package, potential to be elite pass rusher

BEREA — Joe Thomas ...

“The ball got thrown and he sprinted down the field like 50 yards to chase the ball and he was faster than every other person on that field, including the cornerbacks,” Thomas said Thursday. “And that’s the moment when you’re like, ‘Wow, this guy’s really got something special’ and I think you’re going to see a lot of moments like that in the fall.”

The veteran won the early battles, including thwarting a bull rush in which Garrett put his helmet into Thomas’ chest and went nowhere. Garrett said Thomas whispered “nice try.”

... Garrett got the last laugh later in practice when he fired off the ball and turned the corner before Thomas could stop him. Quarterback Cody Kessler dumped the ball to running back Isaiah Crowell a nanosecond before Garrett arrived, but the momentum was too great and Kessler wound up on the ground.

Garrett isn’t a one-trick pony. He’s a 6-foot-4, 272-pound thoroughbred.

... “He’s pretty big,” Thomas said. “Usually guys that have his type of elite speed are more the 220-, 230-pound range and those guys are not as effective pass rushers usually because they’re not as powerful.

“But Myles is a powerful guy, so he’s got that total package of all the things you’re looking for when you’re looking for a pass rusher. The size, the speed, the quickness, the explosiveness.”

... Thomas named Dwight Freeney, DeMarcus Ware, Khalil Mack and Terrell Suggs as the best pass rushers he’s faced in his decade. He was asked if Garrett has the potential to join the group.

“Certainly Myles has the talent to be like in that category of player,” Thomas said. “But obviously as a rookie he’s got a lot of things to learn, he’s got to polish his game before he’s going to be on that level.

“But certainly when you just look at God-given ability and potential, there’s no reason that he couldn’t be an elite pass rusher.”

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Football Jones said:

The Browns are making a lot of progress on D & Garrett will only help matters. Problem is Jackson screwed the pooch by naming Kizer the starter. Don't mean to hijack the thread, but that was an incredibly dumb decision, IMO.

Regardless if you're rebuilding, there's something to be said for winning games (or at least being more competitive) & gaining confidence as a team. Also, I'm afraid what chance Kizer had of developing into a legit NFL starter has been severely hampered by throwing him to the wolves too early. As I feared, he's already regressing.

I guess Kessler pissed off Jackson somehow because he's 3rd string which is ridiculous. What a mess.

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