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Caleb is another one of those "what did he change?" guys.  You can only have so many true game changers - the rest are just fillers based on their popularity, IMO.

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Just got around to watching last night.  Tony is a nut and shouldn't have jumped out so hyper.  

Michaela is also a nut job.  Her pride won't let her just sit back and let other people get tossed into the spotlight.  It cost her last time and will again, probably sooner than later.

Sandra...  oh man.  Tony's right.  Why oh why do they let her manipulate them every time she's on this show.  Best thing to happen is the reshuffle of tribes.  Surely ( I mean surely!) those in her last tribe will let everyone in the game know she proclaimed herself the Queen and still in complete charge of the game.  Surely.  

Mentioned to the wife, do you notice how Sandra never does anything physical at challenges.  She chugs along and if someone screws up the challenge, she can point others to that person being the weak link.  It blows my mind that she has survived two TCs already.  Inexplicable.  

Glad Ciera is gone.  Never liked her.  

And Tai with his damned chickens.  I would have told him on the boat, "NO, leave them chickens alone!"  No way they should let him name them and get attached.  

Pulling for Ozzie and Caleb to go far.  

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On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 8:53 PM, blend said:

I hope Sandra is the next to go.   She drives me nuts.

No..now that she ran her mouth she will sit back quiet and act useless like she is and they will carry her awhile because there is no fear of her winning anything and she will vote whatever way you want her to vote.

I am glad Ciera is gone but even though I did not like Tony he brought energy to the show...a perfect villain. 

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Sorry but I don't see the love for Ozzy.  Sure he's probably the best person who can survive on his own and live off the land but he's a punk and a spoiled sport.  I think there are more people who love to hate him than love him to do well.

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Going out on a limb that they do not kill a goat. That's a tease.  And a tribe shuffle already?  Too early IMHO. 

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1 hour ago, CanadianNFLJunkie said:

Sorry but I don't see the love for Ozzy.  Sure he's probably the best person who can survive on his own and live off the land but he's a punk and a spoiled sport.  I think there are more people who love to hate him than love him to do well.

:goodposting:

Not a fan at all.

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3 minutes ago, Nick Vermeil said:

Going out on a limb that they do not kill a goat. That's a tease.  And a tribe shuffle already?  Too early IMHO. 

Maybe into 3 tribes?

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On 3/11/2017 at 4:03 AM, tdoss said:

Caleb deserves a long run.

Why? I'm not anti-Caleb, I'm just wondering why he deserves a long run. He only lasted 9 days the last time he was on Survivor due to his unfortunate medical emergency. I didn't think he had done anything that game changing up to that point. The thing that sticks out the most to me about his time on Survivor was him passing out from the heat, and Tai's crush on him. :lol:His time on Big Brother as "Beast-Mode Cowboy" shouldn't matter in this game, but my guess is it does to the producers, which is why they brought him back. I think Survivor "Second Chances" seemed more appropriate title wise for his return than "Game Changers." 

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52 minutes ago, Nick Vermeil said:

Going out on a limb that they do not kill a goat. That's a tease.  And a tribe shuffle already?  Too early IMHO. 

Disagree.. I've been :rant: for years that they need to Shuffle tribes every 6 days... Alliances get messed up and Real Game play comes into effect.
When you allow them to stay as one for a a couple of weeks, even a shuffle at that time is "too late". if the Alliance survives to the merge they regroup up.

Shaking them up early and often doesn't allow strong alliance's to form and will make the show more interesting .. 

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15 minutes ago, snogger said:

Disagree.. I've been :rant: for years that they need to Shuffle tribes every 6 days... Alliances get messed up and Real Game play comes into effect.
When you allow them to stay as one for a a couple of weeks, even a shuffle at that time is "too late". if the Alliance survives to the merge they regroup up.

Shaking them up early and often doesn't allow strong alliance's to form and will make the show more interesting .. 

The downside of shaking them up too often is that it means that there's almost no reason to not just vote off the strongest guys/challenge studs early on, and you wind up with a tribe full of Sandras when the merge occurs. 

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24 minutes ago, snogger said:

Disagree.. I've been :rant: for years that they need to Shuffle tribes every 6 days... Alliances get messed up and Real Game play comes into effect.
When you allow them to stay as one for a a couple of weeks, even a shuffle at that time is "too late". if the Alliance survives to the merge they regroup up.

Shaking them up early and often doesn't allow strong alliance's to form and will make the show more interesting .. 

WRONG!  Jk. I see what you are saying. I've always been of them opinion to keep the tribes but offer opportunities to get cross alliances going.  Dual exile island, stuff like that. 

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27 minutes ago, simey said:

Why? I'm not anti-Caleb, I'm just wondering why he deserves a long run. He only lasted 9 days the last time he was on Survivor due to his unfortunate medical emergency. I didn't think he had done anything that game changing up to that point. The thing that sticks out the most to me about his time on Survivor was him passing out from the heat, and Tai's crush on him. :lol:His time on Big Brother as "Beast-Mode Cowboy" shouldn't matter in this game, but my guess is it does to the producers, which is why they brought him back. I think Survivor "Second Chances" seemed more appropriate title wise for his return than "Game Changers." 

I'm just saying personally...I like him and Ozzy.

Probably because they compete hard.

Caleb completely exhausted himself competing...I can respect that.

Someone like Sandra...I cannot.

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I'd like to see redemption island...but not let the tribes know.

They can show us each week...the competition to survive and stay on redemption island but not reveal to the tribe who the winner who gets to return is...until it's time for them to return.

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1 minute ago, tdoss said:

I'm just saying personally...I like him and Ozzy.

Probably because they compete hard.

Caleb completely exhausted himself competing...I can respect that.

Someone like Sandra...I cannot.

Sandra uses more facial muscles than any contestant out there by frowning and running her mouth. :angry::hophead: <---- Sandra exercising her facial muscles.

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57 minutes ago, snogger said:

Disagree.. I've been :rant: for years that they need to Shuffle tribes every 6 days... Alliances get messed up and Real Game play comes into effect.
When you allow them to stay as one for a a couple of weeks, even a shuffle at that time is "too late". if the Alliance survives to the merge they regroup up.

Shaking them up early and often doesn't allow strong alliance's to form and will make the show more interesting .. 

I think when it is all returning players you have to mix it up early 

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43 minutes ago, nysfl2 said:
1 hour ago, snogger said:

Disagree.. I've been :rant: for years that they need to Shuffle tribes every 6 days... Alliances get messed up and Real Game play comes into effect.
When you allow them to stay as one for a a couple of weeks, even a shuffle at that time is "too late". if the Alliance survives to the merge they regroup up.

Shaking them up early and often doesn't allow strong alliance's to form and will make the show more interesting .. 

The downside of shaking them up too often is that it means that there's almost no reason to not just vote off the strongest guys/challenge studs early on, and you wind up with a tribe full of Sandras when the merge occurs. 

Only if they know there is going to be a shake up early and often.. keep them guessing.. I'd love to see a season where the Tribes are shuffled at the first TC.. Have everyone wondering on how much to share and align with others.. Then wait 6 days.. or maybe as a Complete WTF....  have a shuffle at and right BEFORE the Immunity challenge... 

The :jawdrop:  would  be Gold!

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9 minutes ago, snogger said:

Only if they know there is going to be a shake up early and often.. keep them guessing.. I'd love to see a season where the Tribes are shuffled at the first TC.. Have everyone wondering on how much to share and align with others.. Then wait 6 days.. or maybe as a Complete WTF....  have a shuffle at and right BEFORE the Immunity challenge... 

The :jawdrop:  would  be Gold!

 

Put all the castaways in one tribe from the start. Make them schoolyard pick every challenge, losing team goes to tribal. Do you pick strong players to win the challenge? Can you pick enough alliance members to swing the vote if you lose? Where are loyalties when it's such a big group?

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On 3/11/2017 at 7:53 PM, blend said:

I hope Sandra is the next to go.   She drives me nuts.

Ridiculous she wasn't unanimous vote off first TC. 

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4 hours ago, Nick Vermeil said:

Going out on a limb that they do not kill a goat. That's a tease.  And a tribe shuffle already?  Too early IMHO. 

yea I bet they don't if they are already making it look like they do. I hope they do,  just to see the uproar from all the PETA type people.

 

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Could feel my blood pressure rising listening to that cold hearted itch talking about killing a baby goat while sitting next to 4 chickens :angry: 

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They better hope next weeks challenge isn't a physical one or they will be back at TC next week.. Smart long term play saying :bye: to Caleb as far as alliances go... but won't help if you don't have numbers at the merge.

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Such a dumb move voting off Caleb so early with so many in the tribe so weak in challenges.  They'll be back in TC again next week.  Classy dude because if I was in his shoes I'd have let them know that on the way out.

The players think they are playing "smart" by voting out the "merge threats".  But you don't do that this early.  You pick off the weaklings first.  Sigh.

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They don't show them talking back at camp after tribal anymore at the beginning of the show. I used to like that. 

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5 minutes ago, Don't Toews Me said:

Pretty boring season so far

If Sandra wins again, I'm jumping off a cliff

They should BBQ her instead of the goats.

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8 hours ago, simey said:

Sandra uses more facial muscles than any contestant out there by frowning and running her mouth. :angry::hophead: <---- Sandra exercising her facial muscles.

Over the years, she's gone from this

to this.

 

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3 minutes ago, Baloney Sandwich said:

WTF was Tai doing rubbing the sand all over his face?

Guy is one strange dude.

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1 hour ago, Baloney Sandwich said:

WTF was Tai doing rubbing the sand all over his face?

Exfoliating so he'd be ready for a kiss from Caleb. 

 

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At least we get another week of Hali's fine booty.

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9 hours ago, doowain said:

Such a dumb move voting off Caleb so early with so many in the tribe so weak in challenges.  They'll be back in TC again next week.  Classy dude because if I was in his shoes I'd have let them know that on the way out.

The players think they are playing "smart" by voting out the "merge threats".  But you don't do that this early.  You pick off the weaklings first.  Sigh.

I think the kicker was Brad making the point that Tai would have a target with caleb in the game at all times.  At that point Tai gave up pushing. 

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Never thought they were going to eat the goats, especially with chickens walking around and Tai on the other tribe.  

Culpepper is so boring.  As is Trojan.  I thought Caleb was a nice enough guy, but I do like looking at Hali so glad she's still around a little while longer.  

Still amazes me that they are letting Sandra run the show.  

 

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Guys, come on, it's all about the editing.  Yes I totally agree Sandra is a total Beech.  I don't see her lasting much longer.  At worse I see her going after they merge as one and start the individual immunity challenges.

I didn't understand the logic of JT and leaving his new tribe out on the water as he looks for an idol.  Yeah sure he needs to find it but it was too obvious. 

As for the chickens and goats, why go after the goats when you have the chickens and no Tai?? Worse case, fatten up the baby goat for later.

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I don't think I could eat those goats. I know its lame but the baby is too damn cute and obviously killing the mom effectively kills the baby.

Those chickens would be in my belly ASAP though.

Imagine if you kill that poor defenseless baby goat and then the next day you win a cheeseburger in a food challenge (which happen very often nowadays on survivor)

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18 hours ago, tdoss said:

I'd like to see redemption island...but not let the tribes know.

They can show us each week...the competition to survive and stay on redemption island but not reveal to the tribe who the winner who gets to return is...until it's time for them to return.

Or better yet don't even tell the tribes there is a redemption island until the player from there rejoins.

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45 minutes ago, TLEF316 said:

I don't think I could eat those goats. I know its lame but the baby is too damn cute and obviously killing the mom effectively kills the baby.

Those chickens would be in my belly ASAP though.

Imagine if you kill that poor defenseless baby goat and then the next day you win a cheeseburger in a food challenge (which happen very often nowadays on survivor)

Pretty sure Sandra would eat her own young. No way I could have killed the momma and baby goat. Has to be plenty to eat in the ocean. 

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59 minutes ago, TLEF316 said:

I don't think I could eat those goats. I know its lame but the baby is too damn cute and obviously killing the mom effectively kills the baby.

Those chickens would be in my belly ASAP though.

Imagine if you kill that poor defenseless baby goat and then the next day you win a cheeseburger in a food challenge (which happen very often nowadays on survivor)

Forget the mother/baby angle.  I'd have to be pretty damn hard up to eat goat meat.  :X

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I think if Culpepper had pushed harder, he could have gotten Debbie voted out, which would have been the better play. Culpepper was in the majority alliance in his new tribe, 4-2. He was worried about Debbie, Tai, and Caleb working together because of their past relationship. He wants to keep the tribe strong so they don't have to go to tribal. He wants to keep other physical targets in the game so he can fly under the radar.

Voting out Debbie:

1) He is still in the majority alliance 3-2

2)  He takes out one of the trio of Debbie, Tai, and Caleb so they don't have a majority in his tribe

3) The tribe is definitely stronger at a challenge with Caleb rather than Debbie

4) Caleb is definitely a better target in the game for other people to go after rather than Debbie.

Bonus: Debbie is definitely more annoying than Caleb. Life at camp would be better.

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3 hours ago, TLEF316 said:

I don't think I could eat those goats. I know its lame but the baby is too damn cute and obviously killing the mom effectively kills the baby.

Those chickens would be in my belly ASAP though.

Imagine if you kill that poor defenseless baby goat and then the next day you win a cheeseburger in a food challenge (which happen very often nowadays on survivor)

Weren't there eggs from the chicken also? They showed some when the new tribes returned to the chicken camp.

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Remember when this game was so hard that contestants would happily eat a rat? Nobody looks hungry these days.

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3 hours ago, Nick Vermeil said:

Forget the mother/baby angle.  I'd have to be pretty damn hard up to eat goat meat.  :X

Why? Mexican goat stew was on of the richest most flavorful things I've ever eaten. Lots of bones but so delicious.

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3 hours ago, Nick Vermeil said:

Forget the mother/baby angle.  I'd have to be pretty damn hard up to eat goat meat.  :X

Goat is the most consumed meat on the planet.

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Just now, Walking Boot said:

Goat is the most consumed meat on the planet.

And keeping up with the kardashians is a super popular show. Your point?

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Regardless of it's popularity among the masses, goat is delicious. So I don't get the ":X" unless you've tried it and hated it.

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Holy Crap. This is still going on!??

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On 3/15/2017 at 9:03 PM, doowain said:

Such a dumb move voting off Caleb so early with so many in the tribe so weak in challenges.  They'll be back in TC again next week.  Classy dude because if I was in his shoes I'd have let them know that on the way out.

The players think they are playing "smart" by voting out the "merge threats".  But you don't do that this early.  You pick off the weaklings first.  Sigh.

Seriously. I was looking at that remaining group at the end thinking "how in the hell will they win a challenge?"

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10 hours ago, EYLive said:

Remember when this game was so hard that contestants would happily eat a rat? Nobody looks hungry these days.

They have their own damn water bottles!

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19 hours ago, Raging weasel said:

Or better yet don't even tell the tribes there is a redemption island until the player from there rejoins.

That's what I was saying...but apparently not so eloquently. 

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