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7 hours ago, bostonfred said:

I don't understand where that's coming from, but it seems like a lot of people feel this way.  Carson wasnt getting carries, lacy sucked, Carson got touches, he looked pretty good, Carroll said he earned more and he's excited to see him.  That doesn't mean he's earned the starting job. He didn't even imply it. It seems like he's pretty clear that Rawls is starting this week if he's healthy. It sounded like Rawls was close to playing last week so I'd expect him to be healthy, and that he sat for lacy in part because he was playing green bay Ann's another week of rest was a luxury thert thought they could afford.  I'm not sure Rawls will be any good for fantasy, but I would bet on him leading the backfield in carries and i like the matchup against the 49ers a lot better than green bay. 

Full disclosure,  I have Rawls and lacy in one league and Carson in another, so I can't say I'm really rooting for one over the other.  I'm starting Rawls if he plays and benching lacy and Carson.  I'm very close to dropping lacy but will give it one more week in case he bulldozes the 49ers, but the Seattle line just didn't seem to get any push last week and there doesn't appear to be much help on the horizon. I have no plans to start Carson until I see him take over, but if and when he does I'll be happy to have him in the mix 

I think people are looking a little further down the road. As much as I like to see Rawls play, he is always hurt.  In the football world, players don't typically get more healthy as the season and or their careers move forward.  (just ask danny woodhead or arian foster)

If I HAD to bet on this, I would put my money on Rawls coming out on Sunday against the Niners, running hard and looking great, and at some point being down on the field hurt again...and then it's time for THE TONIGHT SHOW.....aka carson.  If that happens, it's a done deal.  

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5 hours ago, The Man With No Name said:

2nd round Center this year
1st round Tackle in 2016
3rd round Guard in 2016
2 4th round Guards in 2015
2nd round OT in 2014
 

So they suck at drafting OL

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9 hours ago, bostonfred said:

I don't understand where that's coming from, but it seems like a lot of people feel this way.  Carson wasnt getting carries, lacy sucked, Carson got touches, he looked pretty good, Carroll said he earned more and he's excited to see him.  That doesn't mean he's earned the starting job. He didn't even imply it. It seems like he's pretty clear that Rawls is starting this week if he's healthy. It sounded like Rawls was close to playing last week so I'd expect him to be healthy, and that he sat for lacy in part because he was playing green bay Ann's another week of rest was a luxury thert thought they could afford.  I'm not sure Rawls will be any good for fantasy, but I would bet on him leading the backfield in carries and i like the matchup against the 49ers a lot better than green bay. 

Full disclosure,  I have Rawls and lacy in one league and Carson in another, so I can't say I'm really rooting for one over the other.  I'm starting Rawls if he plays and benching lacy and Carson.  I'm very close to dropping lacy but will give it one more week in case he bulldozes the 49ers, but the Seattle line just didn't seem to get any push last week and there doesn't appear to be much help on the horizon. I have no plans to start Carson until I see him take over, but if and when he does I'll be happy to have him in the mix 

WHY IS LACEY ON YOUR ROSTER STILL IN ONE LEAGUE????What a waste of a bench spot He has zero chance of making any kind of impact ever again in his career. He's pretty much washed up. I love playing in leagues with owners that hold onto worthless players.

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Anyone else think starting Carson this week is a sneaky play? I've got him in my lineup and I'm hoping I look brilliant later today.

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40 minutes ago, Ruffrodys05 said:

Anyone else think starting Carson this week is a sneaky play? I've got him in my lineup and I'm hoping I look brilliant later today.

Well, since I just traded T Cohen and M Bennett for D Martin and G Olsen, I will most likely have to play Carson in my RB #2 spot today. I like him over Abdullah, and it's SF. The second half of this game could be garbage time yards and Rawls coming back from injury may be limited?

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On 9/13/2017 at 2:18 PM, Eights said:

 

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I am a long time Seahawks fan, after we drafted Carson in the 7th I went and read tons of threads plus watched plenty of film on him;  Pete Carroll loves him, the players rave about his veteran presence the kid will be a stud and he will be the starter.

The Hawks have a fairly nice run friendly schedule,  yes I drafted him, I took him in the 13th round in a Dynasty PPR League, the kid can block, he has good hands, amazing awareness some have compared him to Terrell Davis/David Johnson for his one quick cut to the hole and go.

The one negative is Tom Cable will have to rework that left side as losing Fant in pre-season hurt us, if anybody can accomplish this it's Tom Cable!

Pick him up before the train leaves the station!

 

 

 

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The train has left.  welcome aboard Chris Carson! :)

 

 

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so Rawls get injured or just ineffective? i am sure it's just rust from Rawls but Carson just seems to earn more and more touches. hard to ignore him when he helps grind out a win with big runs late.

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Just now, saintfool said:

so Rawls get injured or just ineffective? i am sure it's just rust from Rawls but Carson just seems to earn more and more touches. hard to ignore him when he helps grind out a win with big runs late.

No injury. Carson's job now.

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15 minutes ago, saintfool said:

so Rawls get injured or just ineffective? i am sure it's just rust from Rawls but Carson just seems to earn more and more touches. hard to ignore him when he helps grind out a win with big runs late.

I would say both, he bobbled the ball twice, missed a block and just looked rusty and he's had Carson impressing and breathing down his back.  I'm glad it happen this quick as I thought it might take 4 games, we've been searching for this kind of runner since we lost Lynch, the O-line still needs much improvement though.

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i own Carson and was very encouraged by what i saw. that said, i expect Rawls to still be in the conversation for a little while longer. Rawls might be a goal line vulture maybe. it would be a way to use him without risking him to too much injury, for example.

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4 minutes ago, Eights said:

I would say both, he bobbled the ball twice, missed a block and just looked rusty and he's had Carson impressing and breathing down his back.  I'm glad it happen this quick as I thought it might take 4 games, we've been searching for this kind of runner since we lost Lynch, the O-line still needs much improvement though.

I caught glimpses of this game, yeah, that missed block that led to a sack in the (3rd?) quarter, I think that was the nail in the coffin.

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Nice game. Saw some of the runs and looks good. Right now there is no contest and muddy water backfield has suddenly become crystal clear. Nothing was working for SEA and they leaned on Carson at the end for the win, especially after that missed extra point to keep game within 3 points. It's his team now.

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Not much has gone right yet for my team this season, but carson isn't one of them, hope he can be a lynch pin for my turnaround.. off my bench and into my lineup soon...

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4 minutes ago, Shutout said:

The team really seem to flow better once he was in for several plays in a row.   Lacy being inactive Maybe? Tells us something too?

Lacy was a healthy scratch, it's been Chris Carson's for the taking and he took it today, kid's going to be a stud!

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Lacy likely cut tomorrow.  

Which is weird, because ITS told us all how dominant he would be this year and he knows more about the Hawks and football generally than pretty much anyone.   Just ask him...

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10 minutes ago, oddsbodkins said:

Decided to preach patience with Powell and not pick up Carson this week. Guess I'm blowing 50% minimum of my FAAB this week.

This is the guy to blow it for. 

Not McCluster. I mean Cohen

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Incredibly I grabbed him off waivers after week one with the 11th waiver order out of 12.

Kid looked strong today. It’s his job now.

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4 minutes ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Just a notch above C-Mike

?? So far it looks like Carson dosent have rocks for brains so he is much more above than a notch.

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I've got him in all three of my dynasty leagues.  Is the shark move to go trade for Rawls for peanuts to have along with him?  I think Carson may have earned a monster bulk of the time share, and I don't like handcuffing, but if I can own both guys for dirt cheap on 22 -24 man rosters then i'm a little more interested in doing it.

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1 hour ago, BINGBING said:

I've got him in all three of my dynasty leagues.  Is the shark move to go trade for Rawls for peanuts to have along with him?  I think Carson may have earned a monster bulk of the time share, and I don't like handcuffing, but if I can own both guys for dirt cheap on 22 -24 man rosters then i'm a little more interested in doing it.

Good luck, I have tried trading for handcuffs like this in the past, former starter getting hurt or out played by younger player and those owners usually don't like to let go. I offered a 4th rounder for Arian Foster last year after Ajayi went nuts and was counter with a 1st. I laughed and 3 or 4 weeks later Foster retired. 

If it was me, I would trade Rawls for a 2018 3rd 

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7 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

Good luck, I have tried trading for handcuffs like this in the past, former starter getting hurt or out played by younger player and those owners usually don't like to let go. I offered a 4th rounder for Arian Foster last year after Ajayi went nuts and was counter with a 1st. I laughed and 3 or 4 weeks later Foster retired. 

If it was me, I would trade Rawls for a 2018 3rd 

Yeah you talked me out of that waste of time.  I've dealt with that before.  Balls to the wall with Carson.

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8 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

Good luck, I have tried trading for handcuffs like this in the past, former starter getting hurt or out played by younger player and those owners usually don't like to let go. I offered a 4th rounder for Arian Foster last year after Ajayi went nuts and was counter with a 1st. I laughed and 3 or 4 weeks later Foster retired. 

If it was me, I would trade Rawls for a 2018 3rd 

I wouldn't trade anything for Rawls.  Unless you feel like he is the starter and will get a majority of the carries.  Carson is the back to own.   If I'm going to roster a backup RB, it's going to be from a team where I do not own the current starter.  I'm greedy....I want two starters instead of one.  I guess I like buying lottery tickets instead of insurance.  The payoff is better and can greatly improve your team with a lottery ticket....the best you can hope for with insurance is that your team stays the same.

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9 minutes ago, HairySasquatch said:

I wouldn't trade anything for Rawls.  Unless you feel like he is the starter and will get a majority of the carries.  Carson is the back to own.   If I'm going to roster a backup RB, it's going to be from a team where I do not own the current starter.  I'm greedy....I want two starters instead of one.  I guess I like buying lottery tickets instead of insurance.  The payoff is better and can greatly improve your team with a lottery ticket....the best you can hope for with insurance is that your team stays the same.

That is my approach 99% of the time.  I should have known better than to think any Rawls owner would give up, especially when two of the three dynasties are start-ups and they just bought him.

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That has to be a reference to Marshawn Lynch.  And I have stated all along that Carson does remind me of Lynch the way he runs.

"Chris Carson becomes the guy in Seattle finally

Yes, the Seattle offense still has questions. On Sunday, however, it finally obtained an answer: Rookie Chris Carson is the team’s top option at tailback.

Carson, in his second career game, gained 93 yards on 20 carries. Veteran Eddie Lacy was a healthy scratch, and Thomas Rawls (believed to be the guy entering the season) had four yards on five carries.

“Chris looked really good,” coach Pete Carroll told reporters after the game. “I thought Chris has shown us nothing but really positive stuff.  There is a style about the way he runs that you might recognize.  High knees and chomping and eating that ground up.  He’s really downhill at you. We’ve seen it for a long time, and we just keep hoping to see it continue. I think we have something. I think he’s a really good football player.

“I say that because he’s a good pass blocker, and he’s a good catcher, and he’s a good route runner, and he can contribute on [special teams] too.  That’s a lot of real positives for a first time guy.   Really, he has very little background.  A junior college kid, didn’t play much as a junior.  I think he carried the ball 80-something times as a senior.  He has not had a lot of football behind him, but you would never know it.  That’s not what we’re seeing, and that’s not what we saw in the offseason in finding him. I’m really fired up for him.”

The praise is warranted, and possibly overdue. As one league source told PFT, some of Carson’s teammates believed Carson should have been the guy all along.

But he now is. And we’ll see where he can take the Seattle running game from here."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/17/chris-carson-becomes-the-guy-in-seattle-finally/

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Chris Carson is emerging as Eddie Lacy fades in Seattle's backfield

SEATTLE -- Doug Baldwin didn't wait for the question to finish before launching into his answer. He was eager to rave about rookie running back Chris Carson, who had just helped the Seattle Seahawks close out a 12-9 win against the San Francisco 49ers Sunday at CenturyLink Field.

"He's the real deal. He's the real deal," Baldwin said. "I've been telling you that since training camp. He is the real deal."

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20 hours ago, zoonation said:

Lacy likely cut tomorrow.  

Which is weird, because ITS told us all how dominant he would be this year and he knows more about the Hawks and football generally than pretty much anyone.   Just ask him...

Based on what?

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A word of caution for those that didn't watch the game yesterday. 

Yes, Carson's stat line looked MUCH better at the end of the day, but through three quarters is looked just as dismal as everyone else's. Carson was sitting on 13-35 with several of those carries for zero or negative yards. The 49er defensive line was dominating the Seahawk offensive line. It wasn't pretty. 

This said, I think Carson passes the eye test just like Rawls did over the past two years when he had realistic opportunities. Those "realistic opportunities" weren't available yesterday through three quarters. I think Rawls didn't get carries late in the game because of two specific plays. Once he had a small window but stumbled upon receiving the carry, his only real chance. The other play was a missed blitz pickup. Rawls totally whiffed and Wilson went down hard. 

I won't be surprised to see both players get meaningful carries as we move forward. I won't be surprised to see Carson take a firm grasp on the job and not let go. Lastly, I won't be so arrogant to say I know what's going to happen. I would advise anyone to be wary of those that do. As a Seattle fan I would love to see both play well. I've got a dog in this fight and that's seeing Seattle win games. I don't own either on my fantasy roster. 

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5 minutes ago, Enforcer said:

A word of caution for those that didn't watch the game yesterday. 

Yes, Carson's stat line looked MUCH better at the end of the day, but through three quarters is looked just as dismal as everyone else's. Carson was sitting on 13-35 with several of those carries for zero or negative yards. The 49er defensive line was dominating the Seahawk offensive line. It wasn't pretty. 

This said, I think Carson passes the eye test just like Rawls did over the past two years when he had realistic opportunities. Those "realistic opportunities" weren't available yesterday through three quarters. I think Rawls didn't get carries late in the game because of two specific plays. Once he had a small window but stumbled upon receiving the carry, his only real chance. The other play was a missed blitz pickup. Rawls totally whiffed and Wilson went down hard. 

I won't be surprised to see both players get meaningful carries as we move forward. I won't be surprised to see Carson take a firm grasp on the job and not let go. Lastly, I won't be so arrogant to say I know what's going to happen. I would advise anyone to be wary of those that do. As a Seattle fan I would love to see both play well. I've got a dog in this fight and that's seeing Seattle win games. I don't own either on my fantasy roster. 

good post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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