I didn't know this because he's in the two HA leagues I'm in (HA1 and HA3) and he doesn't take anything. If he steps down in those two leagues I hope someone else takes over as commish instead of folding the leagues.Did I read correctly somewhere else that there is a 20% rake on these leagues? That is ####### ridiculous whether he is in them or not, its thievery. How has no one else caused a stink about this before, because he's a big DLF guy? No idea why someone would play in a league where someone is taking like $500 off the top each year just to set up the league and fill open rosters. That's a joke.
Was the payout schedule a secret?Did I read correctly somewhere else that there is a 20% rake on these leagues? That is ####### ridiculous whether he is in them or not, its thievery. How has no one else caused a stink about this before, because he's a big DLF guy? No idea why someone would play in a league where someone is taking like $500 off the top each year just to set up the league and fill open rosters. That's a joke.
JohnnyU it does not affect the Hyperactive 1-5. This only affects the leagues that end in a letter. Ryan does not play in these leagues that I know of. He commishes them. The "rake" is not a big amount that I can see at all, especially after MFL fees. My league Hyperactive "O" so far everyone I have seen reply to the email wants Ryan to keep doing the commish job and have no issues with the current setup. Ryan is well known in the industry and this has been disclosed on his "Commish Impossible" podcast so it is really old news. Sounds like someone just wasn't paying attention to the rule sets....I didn't know this because he's in the two HA leagues I'm in (HA1 and HA3) and he doesn't take anything. If he steps down in those two leagues I hope someone else takes over as commish instead of folding the leagues.
That is very comforting knowing leagues 1-5 are continuing. Thank you very much for this information.JohnnyU it does not affect the Hyperactive 1-5. This only affects the leagues that end in a letter. Ryan does not play in these leagues that I know of. He commishes them. The "rake" is not a big amount that I can see at all, especially after MFL fees. My league Hyperactive "O" so far everyone I have seen reply to the email wants Ryan to keep doing the commish job and have no issues with the current setup. Ryan is well known in the industry and this has been disclosed on his "Commish Impossible" podcast so it is really old news. Sounds like someone just wasn't paying attention to the rule sets....
The "rake" is not a big amount that I can see at all, especially after MFL fees.
You think more than 1.5 league buy-ins is acceptable? WTF does this commish do that "earns" him this take?a quick back of the envelope showed he made 14% (or $170) in our $100 league.
in my league it isn't that much. Each league ranges from 25 to up to 250 per team. Most are 25 and 50 leagues. If MFL is like 80 per league I guess so it is less then 10 percent in mine. (50) And if MFL is more then the percentage is less. Like I said he is well known and respected. He is also giving refunds for the leagues if he doesn't commish or if he is walking away.You think more than 1.5 league buy-ins is acceptable? WTF does this commish do that "earns" him this take?
Why do non-HA participants care? If you are in these leagues and are comfortable paying a non-owner to be commish and handle league finances, finding new owners, rolling over the league, league disputes, etc, then why should what someone else deems "acceptable" even matter? I bet if you broke down the time spent on a league as commish, he's probably netting south of $15/hr. And especially so in a year like this with the new MFL rollout.You think more than 1.5 league buy-ins is acceptable? WTF does this commish do that "earns" him this take?
Who cares if the league members agree and pay it?You think more than 1.5 league buy-ins is acceptable? WTF does this commish do that "earns" him this take?
If so, then this dude has the thinnest skin in the world (excepting Trump).Sounds like sour grapes from non-participants potentially ruined some leagues for participants.
Ehhh. Neither you, I, nor anyone else knows what went into his decision. Dealing with all the BS that goes along with being a commish is draining. So maybe this nonsense was simply the tipping point? Doesn't mean he has thin skin. Maybe he doesn't need that cash and likes the idea of ridding himself of the time commitment that this takes? I have no idea, but random strangers who don't play in these leagues are silly to play judge, jury, and executioner.If so, then this dude has the thinnest skin in the world (excepting Trump).
A bunch of Internet yayhoos bellyache on Twitter and message boards and he just closes up shop? Doesn't pass the smell test.
If this was all on the up and up, he would just say "#### you. If you don't like it, don't play in these leagues."
What's it really entail? I've commished plenty of leagues (but never any that I was not a part of). There's the time to set it up initially and recruit teams, sure. That's a grind.Dealing with all the BS that goes along with being a commish is draining.
Plenty "after that" IMO. If all you did as commish was "roll it over annually and replace a team or two," then I'm guessing the leagues weren't very active? Vetting/polling new rule changes, owners disputing unfair trades, staying tuned in to ensure there's no tanking/collusion, etc that impacts the league, and figuring out how to police that. Making rulings and/or fixing things such as owners that claim they accidentally accepted a trade. Collecting entry fees from twelve strangers, collecting and tracking prepays when future picks are traded, and distributing the money at year end. There's issues that pop up all the time. I know of Ryan based on having participated in a league with him at one point, but I don't know him personally. So whether you think that's worth something just north of minimum wage or not to deal with really shouldn't matter. To twelve people in every single one of those leagues, it was worth it. Now they get to find a new commish, and possibly take home $50 more if they win their league? Whoohooo, I guess?What's it really entail? I've commished plenty of leagues (but never any that I was not a part of). There's the time to set it up initially and recruit teams, sure. That's a grind.
But after that, what? Roll it over annually on MFL. Replace a team or two.
He does all the work no owners want to do at a price that is acceptable to them not to have to do it.You think more than 1.5 league buy-ins is acceptable? WTF does this commish do that "earns" him this take?
I'll do it for 19%!20% isn't a terrible rake (Quest FFL is higher) and as others have said if you're willing to pay it stay in. If not then leave it's that simple. If people are so stupid that they can't do the math to figure out how much rake he's been taking that's on them, not him.