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You all know the story.  Absolutely heartbreaking.  Was Obama's catch and release policy to blame?  Poor execution by Border Patrol?  Standard operating procedure?  A lot of issues to discuss with this case.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/21/exclusive-immigration-expert-obamas-catch-and-release-policy-allowed-illegal-alien-rape-suspects-into-the-u-s/

An alleged rapist was delivered from Central America to a school hallway in Maryland by former President Barack Obama’s policy of treating economic migrants as if they were victims of crime, said an expert on illegal immigration.

“The only reason the older youth, Sanchez Milian, was in the country at all was because of the Obama administration’s catch and release policies that allowed him to be resettled in Maryland (with the support of taxpayers), with few questions asked,” said Jessica Vaughan, CIS Director of Policy Studies Jessica Vaughan told Breitbart News.

“Few groups of illegal immigrants have left such a violent mark in our community as these so-called unaccompanied minors—they are almost like modern day Marielitos (the Cuban inmates released by Fidel Castro decades ago),” she said. “Dozens have been arrested for violent crimes in Maryland, New York, Massachusetts, Virginia and Texas.”

Police arrested two illegal alien suspects, 18-year-old Henry E. Sanchez Milian and 17-year-old Jose Montano, on Thursday after staff at Rockville High School in Maryland reported a sex attack on a 14-year-old freshman who had just escaped her alleged assailants. Sanchez Milian is a citizen of Guatemala.

Border patrol agents encountered him in Texas in August as he crossed from Mexico into the U.S., according to WTOP.com.

Obama administration policy required he be issued a notice to appear before an immigration judge for a hearing, and in the meantime, Sanchez Milian was free to roam around as he pleased. Despite his age, he was permitted to enroll in a public high school as a freshman.

According to a detective’s interview with the victim that same day, Sanchez Milian and Montano allegedly raped her orally, ######lly, and anally while bending her across a toilet in a boy’s bathroom stall, sometimes simultaneously. The victim repeatedly cried out in pain and begged them to stop throughout the savage attack. A forensic specialist found blood and bodily fluids in the boy’s bathroom after the victim reported the alleged rape.

The alleged rape took place on Mar. 16, one month before the victim’s fifteenth birthday, according to the date of birth marked on the detective’s statement of probable cause.

An immigration detainer request has been placed on Sanchez Milian, but ICE officials will not comment on Montano’s case, since he is still a minor. Both suspects face “first-degree rape and two counts of first-degree sexual offense,” according to WTOP.com.

A policy expert with the non-partisan Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) said that Obama’s policy of freeing illegal aliens instead of turning them back allowed Sanchez Milian to come to Maryland and encounter his alleged victim.

“Eighty percent of the tens of thousands of Central American kids who were caught by the Border Patrol and released by [the Department of Health and Human Services] have been released to other illegal aliens,” Vaughan said. “Not surprisingly, few bother to show up for or complete their immigration court proceedings and have joined the larger illegal alien population.”

Federal bureaucrats do little to no monitoring of the illegals’ whereabouts after they have been released into American communities, she said.

“The federal office within HHS that is responsible for their resettlement has spent billions of dollars, but does little monitoring of the kids beyond one phone call to check in with the household. They say that many kids will not be at the address where they were resettled, and they lose track of most of them,” she said.

“Instead of allowing these youths to settle here, they should have been turned back at the border,” she added. “That would have stemmed the influx early on, and it would not have created such incentives for more to come here, knowing that they would be allowed to stay… American communities cannot continue to absorb so many new arrivals, so many of whom unfortunately are going to contribute only problems to our schools.”

Obama’s lax immigration enforcement standards fueled a massive illegal immigration surge.

“The single biggest factor driving our illegal immigration right now is our catch and release program,” testified National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd in May 2016. “If you are an unaccompanied minor, we will not only release you, but will escort you to your final destination. If you are a family unit, we will release you. If you claim credible fear, we will release you. If you are a single male and we do not physically see you cross the border and you claim that you have been in this country since 2014, we will release you.” Illegals were not required to offer Border Patrol proof, he explained.
 
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A more local and less crazy news source:

Matthew Bourke, spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in a statement that a border patrol agent encountered Sanchez in Texas in August. Sanchez was ordered to appear before an immigration judge, Bourke said, but that appearance has not been scheduled. ICE has since lodged an immigration detainer against Sanchez

According to court records, Montano, who was charged as an adult, was born in El Salvador, where he lived for 16 years. ICE officials would not discuss Montano's immigration status because he is a juvenile.

 
I'm literally right in the middle of this whole situation. Graduated from Rockville HS in 1986. Have lived within walking distance of school for most of my 49 years. Booster who has donated plenty of time, work and money to the school over the years. I'm there plenty, and involved. My son is tracked to go there next year. Active and member of community both socially and politically as well as local business owner(as a conservative, I am part of an ever-shrinking minority). I'm far too emotionally invested right now to rationally comment, but when I can, I will relate as much as I can about things the media and local politicians/school board will attempt to obfuscate. Complete paradox this kind of crap happening in one of the wealthiest counties in the US, with one of the best school systems. But inmates are now running the asylum here. Illegal aliens are flocking here from all over the country due to lax policies, and county govt bought and paid for by development interests who are driven by profit to ignore the law and lure those willing to work for substandard wages. One aspect is that MS13 has completely infiltrated the public secondary schools. Police report is horrific, and it's public record. It's not for the faint of heart. More to follow...

 
Exactly. The status of their documents is completely irrelevant.
Yeah, I'm going to disagree.  First, I'm not up to date on all of the events, but if they were arrested/released under some program or whatever....then yes, it is a relevant.

 
Trying to score political points with this is both terrible and stupid. A 50 year old American citizen and teacher kidnapped and is doing who knows what to a 15 year old student in Tennessee. Is that any less awful?

 
Yeah, I'm going to disagree.  First, I'm not up to date on all of the events, but if they were arrested/released under some program or whatever....then yes, it is a relevant.
Yep.  Those who provide sanctuary and cover for illegals will have a lot to answer for when this kind of stuff happens.

 
Yeah, I'm going to disagree.  First, I'm not up to date on all of the events, but if they were arrested/released under some program or whatever....then yes, it is a relevant.
We don't know this, but its only relevant if they were arrested for committing some kind of violent crime. And if they were, they should be in jail. Documents/deportation is not the issue here.

 
Trump should be blamed for this. He made it a point to say he was going to get rid of these guys. He didn't.  
Considering Obama waited 6 years before he took responsibility for ANYTHING by continually blaming the previous administration I would say that Trump get's at least that long, no?

 
So let me get this straight, these assailants were brought in as unaccompanied minors?  What sort of system is in place to help them?  Guaranteed they are going to have problems.

 
[Dickinson]Tim and his fellow anti Trumpers have to share in the blame here[/Dickinson]

 
We don't know this, but its only relevant if they were arrested for committing some kind of violent crime. And if they were, they should be in jail. Documents/deportation is not the issue here.
According to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), an "immigration detainer" was placed on "Henry Sanchez-Milian, a citizen of Guatemala, on March 17, 2017, after he was arrested by Montgomery County Police on criminal charges."  ICE "places detainers on individuals who have been arrested on local criminal charges and who are suspected of being deportable, so that ICE can take custody of those individuals when they are released from local custody," said ICE spokesman Matthew Bourke.

 
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I will continue to repeat this because people refuse to accept it: every study that has ever been done on this subject shows that undocumented immigrants commit LESS violent crimes, per percentage, than American citizens do. As awful as these stories are, they are anecdotes, not representative of how undocumented people act, and they should not be used as a reason for policy.

 
I feel horrible for the girl and her family. What a tragedy.

Can we get an article that explains the what/how/why/who? I read the BB piece and one day the perp is in Guatemala the next he is in MD. Does he have parents? Where are they? How did he end up in MD? Who was the immigration judge? Was there a judge? Where are they getting this information? Did he have a prior record? Couldn't this guy have gotten into the US under Trump's plan just as well?

 
I will continue to repeat this because people refuse to accept it: every study that has ever been done on this subject shows that undocumented immigrants commit LESS violent crimes, per percentage, than American citizens do. As awful as these stories are, they are anecdotes, not representative of how undocumented people act, and they should not be used as a reason for policy.
Man if I were wrong as often as you I'd just shut the #### up for a bit. 

 
I don't understand why ICE isn't releasing the record of the 18 year old.  He isn't a minor any more, correct?

 
I will continue to repeat this because people refuse to accept it: every study that has ever been done on this subject shows that undocumented immigrants commit LESS violent crimes, per percentage, than American citizens do. As awful as these stories are, they are anecdotes, not representative of how undocumented people act, and they should not be used as a reason for policy.
As a whole perhaps, but it appears that unaccompanied minors are the exception.

 
Wow that's really dumb Tim. 
It isn't though, and I think those guys (and you) understood me even though they're pretending not to. Every time we have a mass shooter, some people argue that if only we had more gun control it wouldn't have happened. And what they really mean is, if only we had NO GUNS, it wouldn't have happened. It's a flawed argument, because it relies on anecdotes to try to make a large point. Just like this one.

 
Regardless of who did this it is horrible for the girl and the family. Punish him to the full extent of the law.

 
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I will continue to repeat this because people refuse to accept it: every study that has ever been done on this subject shows that undocumented immigrants commit LESS violent crimes, per percentage, than American citizens do. As awful as these stories are, they are anecdotes, not representative of how undocumented people act, and they should not be used as a reason for policy.
One is one too many. 

 
I feel horrible for the girl and her family. What a tragedy.

Can we get an article that explains the what/how/why/who? I read the BB piece and one day the perp is in Guatemala the next he is in MD. Does he have parents? Where are they? How did he end up in MD? Who was the immigration judge? Was there a judge? Where are they getting this information? Did he have a prior record? Couldn't this guy have gotten into the US under Trump's plan just as well?
Yeah, I'm curious as to how he ended up in MD as well and what support system, if any, he had.

 
Also- the OP is incorrect. There is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. Coming into this country without documents is a misdemeanor. But that doesn't make a person "illegal". There is no such thing as an illegal person.

 

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