2017 rookie pick 1.09 post combine (Closed) (1 Viewer)

This poll is to find out where rookie players stack up after the combine.

My goal is to run these polls up until the NFL and see how far we can get. Hopefully a top 25 at least, but if polls go fast maybe we can get deeper than that. Will have to see how this goes.

There are two polls, one for typical 12 team leagues 20 roster spots, PPR or standard scoring. Although there are some differences between these two scoring formats, I don't think the information gained by that difference is much, the order should be about the same except that WR should be valued more in PPR leagues.

The second poll is for 2 QB leagues as I want to see where the QBs are valued compared to other players in this format.

Please suggest players you think should be on the next set of polls or changes you might make to the players currently available in the poll.

I am pulling names from Mike Clays nice top 100 list here. But I will add new players based on the communities recommendations before just adding the next player from Mikes list.

Discussion very welcome.

Results

1.01 Leonard Fournette 73% and 48% at 52 votes

1.02 Dalvin Cook 65% and 43.75% at 84 votes

1.03 Corey Davis 45% and 23.4% at 68 votes

1.04 Mike Williams 40% and 23% at 80 votes
1.05 Christian McCaffrey 53% and 26% at 70 votes
 
1.06 Joe Mixon 75% and 26% at 76 votes
 
1.07 OJ Howard 33% and Deshaun Watson 20% at 92 votes
 
1.08 Alvin Kamara 38% and OJ Howard 12% at 80 votes
 
1.09 John Ross 53.6% and 12/5% at 62 votes (tie between Ross and Trubisky in the 2QB poll broken by the ohter poll
 
Poll 1.10 can be found here

At 32 votes John Ross looks to be winning the first poll. Ross and Trubisky are currently tied in the 2 QB poll.

Add Cooper Kupp soon please

Zyphros said:

Add Cooper Kupp soon please

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Will do. Kupp is the next guy on Clays list as well.

Biabreakable said:

At 32 votes John Ross looks to be winning the first poll. Ross and Trubisky are currently tied in the 2 QB poll.

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Same thing at 49 votes.

Still tied.

Biabreakable said:

Still tied.

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Call it a tie, then.  2QB is a terrible set up anyway.

spider321 said:

Call it a tie, then.  2QB is a terrible set up anyway.

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If I call it a tie I then need to move on to poll 1.11 for that poll while we have not completed 1.10 for the first poll. So I need to break the tie.

Sorry you don't like 2 QB leagues. I think that format is interesting.

Biabreakable said:

If I call it a tie I then need to move on to poll 1.11 for that poll while we have not completed 1.10 for the first poll. So I need to break the tie.

Sorry you don't like 2 QB leagues. I think that format is interesting.

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It's a bit confusing having the tied players on the same line in the rankings.

Maybe you should be the tiebreaker vote so there are no ties.

Casting Couch said:

It's a bit confusing having the tied players on the same line in the rankings.

Maybe you should be the tiebreaker vote so there are no ties.

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Maybe it would be better to have separate polls.

I had forgotten about this always happening before.

Biabreakable said:

Maybe it would be better to have separate polls.

I had forgotten about this always happening before.

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I thought you would have done standard score and PPR scoring.

I didn't think 2 QB leagues were nearly as popular as standard and PPR.

Appreciate the work though, Bia.

I can break the tie by who won the other poll. That is simple enough.

Ross has a significant lead in the previous poll.

I do think there are some significant differences in standard and PPR format that matters for who you might prefer at RB and WR. McCaffrey for example would be more valuable in a PPR format and Fournette worth less. The slot WR may be more valuable in a PPR format while big WR who can win in the red zone worth more in a standard format.

I think most of the leagues use a PPR format more than they use a standard scoring system. I think a standard scoring system is a better way to play dynasty, because of the dynamics of player career length and relative value of the positions in an NFL progressively moving towards spread offenses and more passing.

One of the things I like about having a 2 QB poll alongside the regular poll is that it helps identify where tier breaks n the RB/WR positions more clearly than a start one QB format will. Because people will wait so long on QB in that format (for good reason).