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How deep is the league?

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Just now, MAC_32 said:

How deep is the league?

this is pretty important.

I continue to like byung ho park to bounce back this season, and it's looking like he'll begin the year as the starting DH

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Mitch Haniger

Scott Schebler

Mike Moustakas

Kevin Gausman

Nate Jones

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Guys I think will outperform their draft positions rather easily

Yuri Gurriel

Michael Brantley

Miguel Sano

James Paxton

Michael Pineda

Nick Castellanos

Denard Span

 

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7 minutes ago, Doctor Detroit said:

Guys I think will outperform their draft positions rather easily

James Paxton

You sure about this one at this point? Dude has been rocketing up draft boards all spring... to the point at which he needs to pitch like a SP2 (for a complete season) to be worth it.

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MICHAEL WACHA

(I can say this one without worry because I own him in all 23432 leagues I'm in, I think)

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36 minutes ago, RnR said:

You sure about this one at this point? Dude has been rocketing up draft boards all spring... to the point at which he needs to pitch like a SP2 (for a complete season) to be worth it.

His current ADP is 162

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2 minutes ago, Doctor Detroit said:

His current ADP is 162

I got him 197 in Cake :excited:

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Doctor Detroit said:

His current ADP is 162

Current meaning in drafts today? Or compiled from drafts that have taken place since January? He went 137 in a 12-teamer I was in last night.

At any rate, that's the top-third to top-half of most drafts. Still core building time for most, IMO. :shrug:

What are the numbers you're seeing from him that outperform that ADP easily? I like him, for the record, but he's 28 and has never logged more than 20 starts in a MLB season. He'll need to step his game up significantly, innings wise, to even reach fair value at 162.

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4 minutes ago, Dan Lambskin said:
8 minutes ago, Doctor Detroit said:

His current ADP is 162

I got him 197 in Cake :excited:

That draft was last week, doesn't count.  /RNR

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4 minutes ago, Doctor Detroit said:

That draft was last week, doesn't count.  /RNR

This seems about right from you these days. SAD.

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11 minutes ago, Doctor Detroit said:

That draft was last week, doesn't count.  /RNR

Wow 197 in AOD too and that was just a few days ago.

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11 minutes ago, Smack Tripper said:

League is 12 teams, 28 rounds. Great stuff here guys much appreciated 

250 and later?

Max Kepler

Blake Snell

Joe Panik 

Tom Murphy 

Koda Glover

Michael Wacha

Denard Span

David Peralta

Domingo Santana

Daniel Norris

Carter Capps

Shin Soo Choo

Mitch Haniger 

Cesar Hernandez 

Brandon Finnegan

Jarrett Parker

Andrew Toles

Wilmer Flores

Steve Pearce 

Nick Franklin 

JaCoby Jones

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58 minutes ago, RnR said:

MICHAEL WACHA

(I can say this one without worry because I own him in all 23432 leagues I'm in, I think)

I am probably going to reach for him in my last draft. Very surprised I don't have him anywhere yet. 

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2 hours ago, Eephus said:

Mitch Haniger

Scott Schebler

Mike Moustakas

Kevin Gausman

Nate Jones

I've been waiting until closer to Castellanos' adp because of Moose. If I don't get Nick then he's a great plan b. 

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2 minutes ago, Dan Lambskin said:

Wow 197 in AOD too and that was just a few days ago.

Drafting with the same nerds in two leagues, half of which don't even know who James Paxton is, doesn't count. ;) 

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10 minutes ago, RnR said:

Drafting with the same nerds in two leagues, half of which don't even know who James Paxton is, doesn't count. ;) 

do you have any names other than the ham n egger from your favorite team or are you just here to poke holes in other dudes' sleepers?

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1 minute ago, Peyton Marino said:

do you have any names other than the ham n egger from your favorite team or are you just here to poke holes in other dudes' sleepers?

I've named one sleeper and questioned whether James Paxton was a sleeper at all.

Are you just here to spam on the behalf of Byung-Ho "AAAA" Park?

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Since Peyton asked so politely...

I agree with Moustakas being a good one. Daniel Norris is another I like. I think Sonny Gray's price is right to speculate in Round 22+ since he may be back in mid-April. Depending on how deep the league goes, Danny Valencia could end up being a neat guy at 1B/3B/OF. If it's really deep, I think Clay Buchholz could be an interesting end-gamer in the NL.

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Just now, RnR said:

I've named one sleeper and questioned whether James Paxton was a sleeper at all.

Are you just here to spam on the behind of Byung-Ho "AAAA" Park?

no need to get all butthurt, just curious if you have any other guys on your radar.

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Just now, Peyton Marino said:

no need to get all butthurt, just curious if you have any other guys on your radar.

See above. I'm giving away all the trade secrets.

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7 minutes ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

Jose Peraza

I know Dr. D doesn't think this is a real thing, but this is another guy who is rocketing up draft boards. It started after the Phillips trade and the hype machine hasn't stopped since. In 111 NFBC drafts since March 1, his ADP is all the way up to 89.4. ETA: Range is 50 to 122 on those picks, for reference.

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2 minutes ago, Peyton Marino said:

how can I look at date ranges for NFBC ADP RnR?

On their ADP page, there's an option to sort by "All Drafts" or "Since March 1st"  ... that's the only way I've found to break up the time frame at all.

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19 minutes ago, RnR said:

I know Dr. D doesn't think this is a real thing, but this is another guy who is rocketing up draft boards. It started after the Phillips trade and the hype machine hasn't stopped since. In 111 NFBC drafts since March 1, his ADP is all the way up to 89.4. ETA: Range is 50 to 122 on those picks, for reference.

2B is pretty deep this year

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1 hour ago, RnR said:

Drafting with the same nerds in two leagues, half of which don't even know who James Paxton is, doesn't count. ;) 

26.03    Pickles    SP    STL    Michael Wacha

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Pickles said:

26.03    Pickles    SP    STL    Michael Wacha

 

There's a reason you dominate that league, sir.

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12 minutes ago, Eephus said:

2B is pretty deep this year

As deep as I can remember it. You can even consider guys like Trea Turner and Matt Carpenter for the position as well.

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2 hours ago, bigmarc27 said:

Jarrod Dyson

 

 

Shocked this didn't put Yahoo Finance Forums on tilt 

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10 hours ago, Doctor Detroit said:

Shocked this didn't put Yahoo Finance Forums on tilt 

Still waiting on those projected numbers for Paxton that will have him outperforming his ADP. (Your words, not mine) :shrug:

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2 hours ago, RnR said:

Still waiting on those projected numbers for Paxton that will have him outperforming his ADP. (Your words, not mine) :shrug:

How many innings is he pitching?

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15 hours ago, MAC_32 said:

250 and later?

Max Kepler

Blake Snell

Joe Panik 

Tom Murphy 

Koda Glover

Michael Wacha

Denard Span

David Peralta

Domingo Santana

Daniel Norris

Carter Capps

Shin Soo Choo

Mitch Haniger 

Cesar Hernandez 

Brandon Finnegan

Jarrett Parker

Andrew Toles

Wilmer Flores

Steve Pearce 

Nick Franklin 

JaCoby Jones

the living legend!

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1 hour ago, MAC_32 said:

How many innings is he pitching?

That's the No. 1 hurdle to surpassing value of his ADP. He's being drafted alongside guys who have been there and done that from an innings perspective.

I'm not questioning the skillset, I'm questioning the mindset that he's a bargain at current ADP. There's some IP uptick anticipation built into his price, and to say he exceeds that price is basically calling for significantly more than we've seen to date.

I want to believe. And I want to own him. Just can't find profit in his price.

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if you've drafted with me, some sleepers I like are:

ian kennedy

alex cobb

jose reyes

trevor plouffe

maybe jed lowrie

kevin pillar

melky cabrera

jharel cotton

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