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rockaction
Footballguy
Matthews.
rockaction
Footballguy
What the hell did drummer do to this thread?
squistion
Footballguy
It was for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series. If he had been given an Emmy for his outstanding investigative news reporting you would have a point. How are things on Mars?
rockaction
Footballguy
Dude, I think you're giving this way too much credit. The media and Hollywood hate Trump. Loathe him. It's like this board times ten. Maddow is a partisan hack, just like Fox News. She's just smarter than most.
squistion
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rockaction
Footballguy
It's obvious to anyone with two eyes and ears that she's a partisan hack. That's not even debatable.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I know Higgs/Tso is around here somewhere, I'm just wondering where, when, how...
C'mon out Higgs/Tso...
PM your brah.
C'mon out Higgs/Tso...
PM your brah.
squistion
Footballguy
Max Threshold, I have asked you before to give specific examples, but you didn't provide one link because you never watch her show - your logic is always the same, when asked for proof of any kind to back your assertions, you always respond with "Just look at it, it's obvious" but the only thing that is obvious is that you don't know what you are talking about because you can't provide one example.
The examples is to turn on her show. And watch it.
Like I said, it's not even debatable. She's as partisan as partisan gets.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Ahhh, squis, I see.
I'm just wondering who likes the Cowboys and the Dodgers.
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PM your boy.
I'm just wondering who likes the Cowboys and the Dodgers.
Hiiiiiiiiiiigggggggssssss
PM your boy.
Ramblin Wreck
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squistion
Footballguy
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/rachel-maddow-flynn-plea-deal-points-the-finger-directly-at-mike-pence-involvement/#.WiM3rp8nroc.twitter
Rachel Maddow: Flynn plea deal points the finger directly at Mike Pence involvement
Friday night MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow took a long hard look at the plea deal worked out between attorney’s for former national security adviser Mike Flynn and special counsel Robert Mueller and concluded that Flynn’s statement opens the door for the investigators to take a long hard look at Vice President Mike Pence’s involvement.
Noting that Pence oversaw the Trump transition team, Maddow pointed that he likely was one of those who was aware that Flynn spoke withe the Russians about easing sanctions.
“Vice President Pence insisted publicly more than once that Mike Flynn never talked about sanctions with the Russians. That was always a false statement,” Maddow began. “Well, now we know that multiple members of the Trump transition team knew that was a false statement when Mike Pence said it. So, why’d they let him say it?”
“Honestly, what we learned today also raises the question of whether or not Mike Pence knew that was a false statement when he said it,” the MSNBC host continued. “Well, we can report exclusively tonight that Vice President Mike Pence has not spoken to Robert Mueller or his team of investigators nor has been asked to. We can also report tonight that the Vice President has not been asked to hand over any documents tothe Mueller investigation, but given what just emerged today in federal court, one has to expect that he knows that is coming.”
Watch the video below via Facebook (at above link).
Rachel Maddow: Flynn plea deal points the finger directly at Mike Pence involvement
Friday night MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow took a long hard look at the plea deal worked out between attorney’s for former national security adviser Mike Flynn and special counsel Robert Mueller and concluded that Flynn’s statement opens the door for the investigators to take a long hard look at Vice President Mike Pence’s involvement.
Noting that Pence oversaw the Trump transition team, Maddow pointed that he likely was one of those who was aware that Flynn spoke withe the Russians about easing sanctions.
“Vice President Pence insisted publicly more than once that Mike Flynn never talked about sanctions with the Russians. That was always a false statement,” Maddow began. “Well, now we know that multiple members of the Trump transition team knew that was a false statement when Mike Pence said it. So, why’d they let him say it?”
“Honestly, what we learned today also raises the question of whether or not Mike Pence knew that was a false statement when he said it,” the MSNBC host continued. “Well, we can report exclusively tonight that Vice President Mike Pence has not spoken to Robert Mueller or his team of investigators nor has been asked to. We can also report tonight that the Vice President has not been asked to hand over any documents tothe Mueller investigation, but given what just emerged today in federal court, one has to expect that he knows that is coming.”
Watch the video below via Facebook (at above link).
rockaction
Footballguy
I told you they were going after Pence this morning. It's all I heard yesterday. **** Blumenthal, all oily, started talking about Pence, even stumbling over sentences trying to bring everything back to Pence.
rockaction
Footballguy
Maddow is such a hack. She's on the Journo-list.
squistion
Footballguy
Name me one other hack that won the Emmy for "Outstanding News Discussion and Analysis" - I'll hang up and listen.
rockaction
Footballguy
All In With Chris Hayes.
Anderson Cooper.
That's some high quality liberal hackery there.
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rockaction
Footballguy
She already won one.
News Discussion And Analysis
Good Morning, Landlocked Central Asia, The Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC)
News Discussion And Analysis
Good Morning, Landlocked Central Asia, The Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC)
rockaction
Footballguy
How long has this been a category?
I especially like the Investigative Journalism Award Katie Couric won.
Holy criminy. The Kool-Aid, The Kool-Aid!
I especially like the Investigative Journalism Award Katie Couric won.
Holy criminy. The Kool-Aid, The Kool-Aid!
squistion
Footballguy
Chris Hayes reporting and analysis is solid. Anderson Cooper has done in depth coverage that won a lot of praise from his colleges and critics. Neither of them can labeled "hacks" along the lines of Sean Hannity or other Fox personalities.
rockaction
Footballguy
Bullying: It Stops Now. Anderson Cooper. I'm typing it off of the top of my head because it's funny.
Hannity and Fox stink.
They stink like fish. I never watch it.
Now Russian Today, OTOH...
squistion
Footballguy
Since I am sure you watched it, what in particular supports your claim that it was hack journalism?
rockaction
Footballguy
He writes for The Nation. It's like writing for the Weekly Standard, only you get Emmys for writing for the Nation. You're proving your own point. Name one member of the brilliant right that got any consideration for their writing or reporting or television.
rockaction
Footballguy
I've watched her show. It's smirking, often inaccurate, and framed in a way that makes it one long op-ed. She may try and issue corrections to make it seem like a real news show, but it's not, and everybody knows it. Can you glean certain facts from it? Does she ask great rhetorical questions? Is it one of the better cable news shows on the air? Does the PSI of a football matter? Is KTLA the worst local news show on the gosh darn air?
Maybe.
squistion
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Recently? There are plenty of people writing on the right that were brilliant in predicting Brexit and the rise of the American alt-right like Chris Caldwell of The Weekly Standard. Matt Labash writes great long form. Megan McCardle at Forbes should get consideration for best op-ed columnist at the major magazines, but is relegated to online journalism. Ramesh Ponnuru of National Review and David Brookhiser are top-notch commentators and opinion purveyors. Joesph Epstein at the American Scholar was one of the best essayists I've read in the past twenty years, yet nary a peep. Yet you'll never hear these hack names discussed in major media. Why is that?
squistion
Footballguy
All the time. And I think it is unfair to label it as a straight news show, as it is news and opinion and in that respect it currently the best cable news show in that category (of new and opinion) in my opinion, which has been reflected by her top ratings which forced Fox to move Hannity opposite her (although I don't see how that move hurt either of them as they don't have the same audience).
rockaction
Footballguy
I agree with this post. Every time I watch Maddow, I glean certain facts. It's how they're framed. What I was joking about, I guess, is how they're framed. I would say I trust her reporting much more than Hannity's, but there's a subtle shift in fact to narrative that I don't necessarily trust.
squistion
Footballguy
I am not familiar with any of these writers so I have no opinion on their work, but I won't label them hacks like those that unfamiliar with Maddow. And I have yet to see one example of proof that she is a hack journalist as has been repeatedly claimed, hack defined as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_writer
A hack writer is a pejorative term for a writer who is paid to write low-quality, rushed articles or books "to order", often with a short deadline. ... In journalism, a hack writer is deemed to operate as a "mercenary" or "pen for hire", expressing their client's political opinions in pamphlets or newspaper articles.
rockaction
Footballguy
Okay, I'll grant you that. It's not low quality. "Partisan hack" is a pejorative, and a colloquial one these days. Let's call her an op-ed columnist on television. That's what I think people mean when they refer to others as "hacks."
And the problem with not being familiar with any of those writers is that they have virtually no access because of their political beliefs. They're relegated. And it's partially self-induced -- the problem with National Review these days is that Buckley left it to Lowry instead of either of Ponnuru or Brookhiser, whom he had promised it to. But I'm just talking shop now. There's a deeper problem with media access for these people and their works: The inherent media bias towards the left and Fox's sensationalistic ratings and money grab. But that's another topic for another day. I've stomped on your thread enough.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
can you cite some inaccuracies from the past month or two? If it's often, there must be a lot.
rockaction
Footballguy
Funny, every time I watch her show -- not often -- she's running corrections that are pretty vital to her narrative that I've read about. I tune in, and there's a correction. You shouldn't need a "Dept. Of Corrections" that are often central to your narrative. It's a problem with her, I think. At least she corrects it, but it seems disingenuous to me. If you're going to run with it, get it right.
Still better than Hannity pushing the Seth Rich garbage.
squistion
Footballguy
Seriously, I watch her show every night and any corrections are rare, they are the exception, not the rule. I don't know what you are referring to...
rockaction
Footballguy
Maybe it's because I've read about them and tune in?
That would seem to be self-confirming. Perhaps I should retract that statement until I spend a good month or two straight watching it. But you can't tell me she doesn't smirk a lot...
squistion
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rockaction
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
I’m not sure if Maddow would let Kaepernick impregnate her but if she would then Squisition would love that child more than Mary loved the baby Jeebus.
squistion
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rockaction
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
MSNBC’s “Rachel Maddow Show,” “All in With Chris Hayes,” “The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell” were all nominees for the award. Some real serious journalists right there. No Trump-hating hack bias to these awards. No sirree.All In With Chris Hayes.
Anderson Cooper.
That's some high quality liberal hackery there.
rockaction
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Anderson Cooper is good. Sure, his liberal tendencies often come out, but he is almost always fair and always keeps a good disposition, unlike the perpetually-snarky Maddow or the perpetually-douchey Hannity (both of whom are about as partisan as you can get).
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Hannity should give Trump a producer credit on his show. People are aware they speak all the time, right? You're watching state propaganda.
And MSNBC is state propaganda when Dems are in charge. It is pretty clear the Democratic wet dream is to hope to take the house and then take down both Pence and Trump and to get President Pelosi and MSNBC is onboard to help.
squistion
Footballguy
That is an absurd statement. Do you have any specific examples of where they put out state propaganda when the Democrats were in charge?
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Rachel Maddow: Flynn plea deal points the finger directly at Mike Pence involvement.
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