Balt/Bost stack with Giancarlo and Stroman, peaked at 195, got as high as 8th, good for $500, shortly after I posted the notice and then stalled and the late games caught up to me, finished 151 only good for $20 but it made for a fun night
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As I said earlier, this early in the year I'm staying away from cash LUs, there is still just too much unknown in regards to what hitters are going to be good cash (high floor) players and with the new scoring for SP that position is not as critical now for cash.
Just curious as to why you are thinking of stacking NYM and OAK players?
Just looking at the games/SP Iean more towards to Cincy/Mill and TB/NYY and I like certain MIA, TOR and KC batters (mostly top of the LU that bat opposite of the SP)
Of the 6 main slate games there are 4 games with higher point totals than the NYM/MIA game
Also if this is for GPP I would look elsewhere for a SP, need to be somewhat contrarian to cash, Vargas, Liriano and Chen are options I'm looking at
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Pitching is bad for the main slate. I'm going bum in cash and gsellman/gausman in gpp.
For bats I'm looking at mil/cin and Balt.
For bats I'm looking at mil/cin and Balt.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
@Megla -
Keep in mind that I have only been doing this for 10 days....
I read an article about MLB dfs and it said that wOBA is a great stat to look at for cash. I found a site that factors in the park in that stat, and a separate one where they factor in the pitcher's wOBA allowed vs handedness of battter. So I have been looking at those and writing down the top 4-5 at each position. Then I do look at power and anybody that has decent power vs. handedness of the pitcher moves up. For tie breakers I factor in if they are away (to guarantee the 9th inning bat), batting order, and projected run totals for the team. Then I see who I can jam in with the salaries. When I did this today, Mets, Balt, and Oakland batters were all over the lists.
Gpp I have been looking more for the power upside and do a similar list for that and see if there are 3+ guys from a team that show up. If I scratch my head as to why, that is usually what I look for in gpps. Also I have been looking at Pitcher splits and stuff like HR/9 innings, WHIP for handedness of batters, HR/FB rate, etc... to see if there is a team that shows up on multiples of these, again, especially if I think it looks odd. As people have said, Milwaukee and Cincy show up here, but that is probably popular. One that showed up that made me think gpp was TB with a lean to the righties and same with Oak RHBs. Also KC LHBs.
I get what you are saying about Bumg for gpp. I have been surprised how much lower the stud is owned in gpp b/c I assume people go cheaper to fit the huge bats in. I will use that stud to pair with a cheap stack - ie Oak players that average about 3k each.
Everytime I have tried the "can't miss" games of the night for stacks I have whiffed - ie Col/Milwaukee last week, Coors field, Toronto last night. I have had more success with a cheap Philly, Balt, or Met stack so far. As you said, that might even out as the bats warm up on the season.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Just looked at Vegas lines again, and it seemed like that Oak/KC game moved up again. KC has the most projected runs for the night and Oak 4th.
Sounds like you are using Daily Fantasy Nerd,@Megla -
Keep in mind that I have only been doing this for 10 days....
I read an article about MLB dfs and it said that wOBA is a great stat to look at for cash. I found a site that factors in the park in that stat, and a separate one where they factor in the pitcher's wOBA allowed vs handedness of battter. So I have been looking at those and writing down the top 4-5 at each position. Then I do look at power and anybody that has decent power vs. handedness of the pitcher moves up. For tie breakers I factor in if they are away (to guarantee the 9th inning bat), batting order, and projected run totals for the team. Then I see who I can jam in with the salaries. When I did this today, Mets, Balt, and Oakland batters were all over the lists.
Gpp I have been looking more for the power upside and do a similar list for that and see if there are 3+ guys from a team that show up. If I scratch my head as to why, that is usually what I look for in gpps. Also I have been looking at Pitcher splits and stuff like HR/9 innings, WHIP for handedness of batters, HR/FB rate, etc... to see if there is a team that shows up on multiples of these, again, especially if I think it looks odd. As people have said, Milwaukee and Cincy show up here, but that is probably popular. One that showed up that made me think gpp was TB with a lean to the righties and same with Oak RHBs. Also KC LHBs.
I get what you are saying about Bumg for gpp. I have been surprised how much lower the stud is owned in gpp b/c I assume people go cheaper to fit the huge bats in. I will use that stud to pair with a cheap stack - ie Oak players that average about 3k each.
Everytime I have tried the "can't miss" games of the night for stacks I have whiffed - ie Col/Milwaukee last week, Coors field, Toronto last night. I have had more success with a cheap Philly, Balt, or Met stack so far. As you said, that might even out as the bats warm up on the season.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
My early slate gpp is a disaster. Zimmerman pounded, red Sox and tiger bats silent other than miggy finally doing something.
Don't really like today's slate so just doing a $1 gpp tonight.
Good luck all
Don't really like today's slate so just doing a $1 gpp tonight.
Good luck all
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Good luck. I tried 3 $1 gpps. I did Oak/Milw, Cin/Tor, and KC/Mia lineups.
On DK I have been having some luck with $.25 contests (250 people or so), so I threw 6 combos over there as well.
I see, it will be a few more weeks before I even try to start playing cash LUs so I can't really speak to them for now.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Fair enough. I don't play $ enough to pay for info and LU generators, so they seemed to have quite a bit of info for free.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Nice!. So do you use a site, or do you just know which players/matchups to look for?Back to back nights with a MLB LU scoring 190+
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Nice, I have 134.2 with Bum to go.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
HUH. By far my worst night since doing this so far (unless a couple players/games light up in their last couple innings). Not even sniffing a cash line on any of my LUs. That takes talent to go 0 for 12 on a night and miss damn near any combo that scored well. We are talking scores in the 40s and 50s here. Still have a bit of Bum to go, but I am sure that's not going to help much at what I assume his ownership % will be.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Not that it's a big surprise, but Bumg is 89% owned in my 50/50s.
I use Daily Fantasy Nerd.KarmaPolice said:
Typically I use their spreadsheets to select potential SP for the slates, then use it to look at a lot of the same things you listed to create a pool of players at each position. Then I target high total games to see if some of those players are in my pool. I typically create 2 or 3 of my LUs per slate this way and I use the site's top optimized LU as well.
This allows me to track their success up against mine. Right now I feel the tools DFN provides me outside of the LU optimizer are worth the cost but comparing LU successes will give me a better look at þe overall value of the site.
They also have the same tools for the NBA so I put their #1 LU in small dollar GPPs as well to see how they fair.
This is my first try with this pay site and I have only been using it for a week.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
To be fair, neither have been profitable for me. If I had more to spend, I would think about a pay site, but can't justify the $40-50/month or whatever some of these sites are. I was surprised I found a site that had some of this stuff for free, so I thought I'd see what I could do.
Nothing else, it's making baseball interesting to me. I am sitting here watching updates on that Mets/Marlins game to see if it will get back to Flores/Walker.
Understandable, DFN offers a $25 a month package that also includes a 7 day free trial. With it you get access to all of their spreadsheets/tools and 10 optimized LUs per slate for the 4 major sports
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Thanks for the link - I will watch that tomorrow. Nothing else it's probably worth the 7 day trial to see if it helps.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This is brutal - 6 extra innings and I don't remember seeing a hit.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Bum had an off night and was 35% owned in gpp but still did enough to turn $1 into $7 with a score of 171+.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
My results seem to disprove that. I'm 8/26 in gpp (and down .50) and 13/18 in 50/50s ( up 10.80). yes its a small sample size but isn't it always easier to play cash vs gpp?
Risk vs reward, I feel early in the season I have just as good a chance to cash in a GPP as I do cash so I opt for the possibility of the bigger pay day.
I agree that cash is more predictable when the players are a bit more predictable, but right now I just don't have a grasp on what batters are "cash"
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Another slate I'm not really excited about. Thinking gpp only again and playing the Tor bats to break out vs a soft tossing lefty and starting Bauer vs my Tigers while their bats are cold-especially if Miggy sits tonight. Freeman and the other Braves have a good matchup too.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Not at all-maybe I'm just getting lucky. It sounds like you put a lot more time and thought into your research than I do. I mostly just try to find some mini stacks(2-3guys) facing pitchers I'm pretty sure are terrible. I pick my SP and my must play stud or 2 and work from there. After doing this last night I tossed in Hicks from the Yanks because he was the only guy I could afford and was batting 2nd and he hit 2 HRs for me.Thanks. So basically you are just saying I suck??
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Giving you ####. I do overthink things to a fault. The guy I switched out last night b/c I had too many Mets? Cespedes.
That was my losing night on FD right there. I think i just got burned with the "can't miss" guys so much, I started going a little too much the other way. Will try a little again tonight.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Unlike other sports baseball studs will fail 70%+, you just have to hit on them at the right time.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
LOL, maybe in larger slates. Did you check out the DFN video I linked?Maybe you should be posting your LUs before the locks for me.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
hers my early only $1 dart--
strasburg
montero
zimmerman
harrison
bryant
russell
harper
heyward
kendrick
strasburg
montero
zimmerman
harrison
bryant
russell
harper
heyward
kendrick
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Maybe tonight. I did sign up for the free trial. Did it for DK since I have more winnings over there from football. We will see if it helps.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
don't really like this slate so no cash games but this is where I'm at for $1 gpps for now.Maybe you should be posting your LUs before the locks for me.
bauer thor
lucroy darnaud
freeman morles
odor travis
suarez nunez
swanson barney
markakis pence
duvall bruce
mazara cruz
may change when the lineups come out.
I haven't even looked at main slate yet, just letting my placeholder LUs sit there until about 1 hour before game time so I don't have pre-conceived thoughts on players prior to creating my LUs
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Raging weasel
Footballguy
1st gpp was a disaster scoring 59.8. I completely redid the 2nd (thor,vmart,crushdavis,miller,nunez,seager,haniger,dickerson,cruz) and put up 173.3 to cash for $3. Still resulted in my 2nd losing day this season- I knew I didn't like that slate.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Did a bit better last night. Won a couple bucks on FD and about $7 on DK. Mostly b/c of the cash LUs on FD.
Best LU on DK got 3rd in my 250 contest so my 25cents turned to $3.50. That was my MIlw stack with Archer and Kershaw.
Best LU for gpp on FD had about 110pts with the first 4 players (Thor/Villar/Thames/Moust), but then #### the bed after that. Still cashed at 158 pts, but had 3 0s and Cruz/Andrus.
Thanks again @Megla for the link to that site. I watched the video last night and understand the generator more and hopefully that will help. Makes the time spent on this a lot less. I can think of some stacks/players I like, and plug them in quick. Also love that you can tell it a range of batting order to take, max # of guys on a team, etc.. That should really help with cash games.
Today I just put in a quick $2 cash LU in using 1. Batting Order 1-5, 2. Taking out the 4 lowest projected scoring teams, and 3. No more than 2 bats/team.
Best LU on DK got 3rd in my 250 contest so my 25cents turned to $3.50. That was my MIlw stack with Archer and Kershaw.
Best LU for gpp on FD had about 110pts with the first 4 players (Thor/Villar/Thames/Moust), but then #### the bed after that. Still cashed at 158 pts, but had 3 0s and Cruz/Andrus.
Thanks again @Megla for the link to that site. I watched the video last night and understand the generator more and hopefully that will help. Makes the time spent on this a lot less. I can think of some stacks/players I like, and plug them in quick. Also love that you can tell it a range of batting order to take, max # of guys on a team, etc.. That should really help with cash games.
Today I just put in a quick $2 cash LU in using 1. Batting Order 1-5, 2. Taking out the 4 lowest projected scoring teams, and 3. No more than 2 bats/team.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Even with Kershaw on the slate I really didn't like the SP choices for the pricing. Also the teams I like to stack had bad matchups or pricing and positions just didn't work out. I just didn't feel good or confident in the lineups I was putting together.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
On the early slate I really like the Nats and Cubs bats. SP is either too $$ or shaky so I'm going to take a chance there and load up on bats and hope they come thru. really slim pickings for tourneys on FD today so had to spend up and go multi-entry.
gpp-$3
estrada
lobaton
smoak
murphy
bryant
russell
harper
braun
schwarber
gpp-$3
estrada
lobaton
smoak
murphy
bryant
russell
harper
braun
schwarber
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
For whatever reason that site really liked Finnegan. Used him with Sale for a gpp, but it looks like he already has about -5pts in the first inning..
Anyway, I was surprised at how much their suggested LU changed after the batting orders were finalized. They did say to check back before lock to see what changed. 5 Players were different. And it ended up with:
McCullers/Sale (I locked those two in)
Giminez/Rizzo/Frazier/Freese/Difo/Schwarber/Smith/Springer
Anyway, I was surprised at how much their suggested LU changed after the batting orders were finalized. They did say to check back before lock to see what changed. 5 Players were different. And it ended up with:
McCullers/Sale (I locked those two in)
Giminez/Rizzo/Frazier/Freese/Difo/Schwarber/Smith/Springer
