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Is CJ Anderson a bounce back candidate? (1 Viewer)

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I was listening to the Dynasty Tradecast and they were talking about bounce back candidates for this year. They all said they were buying CJ Anderson. I am baffled by this. Anderson has never had 1000 yards rushing in a season during his NFL career. He has only had five games with 100 yards rushing in his entire four year NFL career. He had a couple of really good games in 2014. Since Dec. of 2014 he has had three games of over 100 yards rushing. That is in 26 games he played in. 

They completely discounted Booker, as if he is no threat. Granted, Booker wasn't very good last year. But how many RBs struggle in their first year, and then produce in their second or third years? Maybe Booker is terrible, but I don't think that Anderson is so strong that Booker doesn't have a chance to outplay him. Maybe, just maybe, Anderson is terrible and if Booker doesn't take his spot, they will draft someone who will. 

According to DLF Anderson is going at 64, early in the sixth round. Whereas Booker is going at 133, the beginning of the 12th round. I would be much more inclined to take a chance on Booker there than Anderson in the early sixth. And going after Anderson are CJ Prosise, Spencer Ware, Joe Mixon, and Crowell. I'd take any of those guys over CJ Anderson. 

 
He's 26 with 448 carries for 2044 yards and 75 catches for 635 yards and another 74/323/2 and 16/82 in 5 playoff games. His volume isn't very high because he's split time but he's had 4.4+ yards per carry, double digit td pace, and 30+ reception pace through most of his career, and his season ending stretch to finish 2014 was absurd.  

Last year he was on pace for 252 rush, 1000 yards, 37 rec, 292 yards, 10 total touchdowns through 7 games even with booker getting touches, awful qb play and an injury partway through his seventh game. 

Week 1 4 rec 139 total yards 2 TDs

Week 2 3 rec 93 total yards 1 TD

Week 3 1 rec 41 total yards

Week 4 1 rec 52 total yards 1 TD 

Week 5 3 rec 62 total yards

Week 6 4 rec 71 total yards

Week 7 0 rec 107 rush yards 1 TD injured mid game

Average 2.2 rec 81 yards .6 TDS

The previous season he shared carries but after the bye he had 540 yards rushing, 12 catches for 83 yards receiving and 5 touchdowns then added 9 catches 293 yards and 2 tds in 3 playoff games to win a Superbowl. 

That 12 games is pace for 28 rec, 1221 yards, 10 tds.

In the final 8 games of 2014 he had 30 receptions for 1057 yards and 10 touchdowns. That's not sustainable, but it's an absurd 60 catch, 2100 yard, 20 td pace.  

If he starts a full season it seems reasonable to project a pace between 30-60 catches, 1200-2000 total yards and 9-20 touchdowns.  Quite a spread.  So you need to figure out what you expect. 

Worst case, he doesn't play due to injury, performance or the Broncos adding someone in fa/the draft. 

Give him a healthy year as starter but err on the low side and you get 30/1200/9 - ok but nothing special.

Give him a healthy year without booker pushing him as hard as he did early last year and he might be closer to 45/1400/10 - much better. 

Give him the lead back role with Romo at QB or otherwise improved qb play, and his upside is literally 2100 total yards, 20.touchdowns and 60 receptions as a nice little bonus. 

You need to dodge some bullets - booker could emerge, or they might draft a guy again, and he needs to stay healthy.  But on past performance alone he's capable of a quality rb1 season.  

 
I believe so.

CJA is a case where you can't just look at the year end stats. First of all, he's only had 3 years worth of opportunities - as an undrafted player he was lucky to make a team his rookie year. He only had a handful of carries through the first half of his 2nd year and he obviously missed over half the season in his 4th year. So we're looking at a sample size of less than 32 games, thus I wouldn't expect an eye popping number of 100 yard games. But looking even closer, he tried to play through injury in 2015 which led to a poor start and Kubiak turning to a RBBC with Hillman. By the end of the year CJA got healthy and proved that he was the superior back (something like 3 ypc through 6 games and over 6 ypa through the last 10), but Kubiak kept up the RBBC and CJA never got more than 15 carries in a game that season. Hard to get 100 yards without the carries. Either way, even with the injuries and sporadic usage, the guy has amassed 448 NFL carries at a 4.6 YPC clip. That's no accident. If the Broncos can move the ball through the air this year and find some blocking, CJA could easily be a top 10 back. He's certainly had enough time off to get healed up.

Booker on the other hand was handed the job after CJA went down and crapped the bed. Bibbs was going to get his job until Bibbs got hurt. Then a washed up Forsett forced a RBBC with Booker. I had bought into Booker's potential last year, but I'm willing to admit I was wrong. I'm not saying he's doomed, but I don't want him on my roster this year unless I have CJA. Even then, I wouldn't trust him.

As for the guys you mentioned:

Prosise is made of glass and now Lacy is there. Do not want.

Ware had his shot last year and he wore down. He's slipping because people don't believe KC will hand him the job in 2017. If KC doesn't draft anyone, then expect his ADP to rise dramatically.

Mixon doesn't belong in this discussion. Rookies are hit or miss and we don't know what team he'll be on.

Crowell... well, I think he's in the running for most underrated fantasy player this year, so I say, why not grab both? I think CJA + Crowell is a hell of a budget backfield. I expect at least one of them to be top 10 at the end of the year.

 
I want to say yes, but I'm interested to see how Booker does with the new coaches scheme (OL coach Jeff Davidson and OC Mike McCoy). I'm not particularly interested in drafting either Booker or CJA but it could work out for CJA if he gets the volume, and perhaps if the overall offensive improves a bit under Siemian (or whoever will be the QB).

The addition of G Ronald Leary is certainly good.

 
I traded for Anderson last season even after listening to the anti-Anderson crowd continually pointing out that he has not had a healthy season going all the way back to his college career. I figured those things have a way of evening out over time.

I got a nice offer for him this offseason and moved on.

 
Mmmmmehhhhhhhh..........Hard to tell until after the draft.  

As it is, if DEN doesn't bring in a rookie RB.....sure, why not?   I certainly wouldn't count on him from a fantasy perspective...but he's had the talent and has showcased it at times.

 
He's had weight problems multiple times in the past few years. Now he's coming back from injury and unable to work out. He's been as heavy as 245 in the past (ideal playing weight which he was at last year is 220-225) and looks at LEAST that now. He's gonna have a lot of work to do once he can start running for real again.

 
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One of the most overrated players in fantasy football. He's a serviceable receiver who has never totaled 190 carries a season in NFL or NCAA and other than brief few game run he had when the defenses sold out to stop Peyton he's been an 11.25 PPG RB the last two seasons. That's who he is and I don't even think he'll be that for long.

 
CJ is an interesting candidate as if Denver doesn't bring in a rookie back, there's not many on the squad who have shown they can do any better than CJ.

Problem for me is that CJ hasn't shown he can be that true RB1 either -- regardless that Booker couldn't shine when opportunity was there, the fact that CJ always ends up with another back vying for time is not a good trend.

I think he has the skills, and I know Denver would love to have a back that can handle the load, but just don't trust that CJ can bounce back and be that guy given track record. He's been in that position and never was able to really seize it. Could he? Maybe, but too much risk for me.

 
I would still draft him before guys like Crowell, Ware, Coleman, Montgomery, Lacy, Kelley, L. Murray etc.

 
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I would still draft him before guys like Crowell, Ware, Coleman, Montgomery, Lacy, Kelley, L. Murray etc.
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Nevertheless, he could be outperformed by Crowell, Ware, Coleman, Montgomery, Lacy, Kelley, L. Murray etc.

ETA: Denver's offense is kind of in limbo right now.  Certainly not the typically productive offense most of us remember.

 
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FF Ninja said:
I'm not sure it is possible to accumulate 448 NFL carries @ 4.6 ypc without being good.
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Depends what you mean by good. Sure, he is the NFL and playing, so obviously theres something there. However, as NFL RBs go, he's average at best. YPC is pretty meaningless. It's not a sticky stat and I have seen some analysis that shows ypc doesn't stabilize until nearly 2000 carries (which very few RBs ever even get to). So basically, YPC is a meaningless statistic. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Depends what you mean by good. Sure, he is the NFL and playing, so obviously theres something there. However, as NFL RBs go, he's average at best. YPC is pretty meaningless. It's not a sticky stat and I have seen some analysis that shows ypc doesn't stabilize until nearly 2000 carries (which very few RBs ever even get to). So basically, YPC is a meaningless statistic. 
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I'd need to see some data before I believe this. I don't like to use it as a sole metric for judging a guy because it is very situation dependent, but there are cut offs in my mind. I'm not going to say a guy is bad for putting up back-to-back 4.0 ypc seasons and I'm not going to say a guy is good for putting up one 4.8 ypc season, but if a career spans 3 years with an average over 4.4 ypc then I think we're probably talking about a good player. In this case, Anderson is at 4.6 ypc through 3 seasons, with two of those seasons behind very mediocre offensive lines and with poor QB play. I'll admit, I was fully skeptical after 2014, but he showed enough in 2015 and 2016 to convince me he's a legitimate talent.

And looking forward, Denver has the defense to stay in games and doesn't have a passing game to lean on, so he should be heavily involved unless they bring in someone (right now he's clearly the best back on the team).

 
I'm staying away from pretty much all things DEN fantasy wise (except maybe the DST and PK).....until they fix that offensive line...they have swung and missed on oline prospects and are in bad shape right now with no real fixes in the draft or anything left in free agency....gonna be a mess

 
Based on some of the stuff I have been reading McCoy as the offensive coordinator now and Jeff Davidson as the offensive line coach signals a move away from the ZBS of Kubiak and perhaps more man blocking, which is what Davidson prefers and I think a lot of SD runs last year were man blocking as well.

CJ Anderson is very good in the ZBS because of his stature, his weight, his vision, change of direction ability and being a fire plug RB who can get good yards after contact running over defenders knees.

I am not sure if Anderson will fit as well in a man blocking system as he did Kubiaks offense.

Booker comes from a ZBS system in Utah so the change in scheme may not fit him as well as Kubiaks offense did either. He didn't do as well in Kubiaks offense as CJ Anderson did though.

McCoy will adjust to the personnel he has. He showed that with Denver before when Tebow was the QB. So the offense should be tailored somewhat to what the players do best. I just know that Jeff Davidson prefers more man blocking than Kubiak did. Davidson has been with McCoy before in Carolina and also last season with the Chargers. So there is long standing relationship between these two coaches.

I think the main concern for Anderson and Booker is that there are a lot of good RB coming into the league this year. I think Booker is a very good RB capable of beating out a lot of NFL players at his position, but if the Bronco's do not see it that way. a new starter may soon be added to their team. Booker was a 4th round pick last season, so any pick in the first 3 rounds of the 2017 draft would be putting both Anderson and Booker on notice that their days are numbered.

If the Broncos do not draft a RB high, I would take that as a signal that they are happy with Anderson and Booker and not looking to upgrade at this time.

As mentioned McCoy has shown an interest in having a 3rd down pass specialist RB. Booker is more effective as a receiver than Anderson is. So for now, that receiving RB role should be Bookers to lose. However if the Broncos drafted McCaffrey or possibly Kamara, that role as a receiving RB might be lost to faster more dynamic player.

I don't really see Anderson being in the mix for Denver beyond this season unless he manages to stay healthy and be consistent for the first time of his career. He will be 27 years old in 2018 and at the end of his contract. I think he needs to play 13 games (well) to hold on to his job. The Broncos showed some reluctance to give him the money they did last season. The talk for awhile has been about Anderson staying healthy a full season. He got kind of a prove it contract last year (matching the offer made by Miami) but he didn't stay healthy.

 
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FF Ninja said:
I'd need to see some data before I believe this. I don't like to use it as a sole metric for judging a guy because it is very situation dependent, but there are cut offs in my mind. I'm not going to say a guy is bad for putting up back-to-back 4.0 ypc seasons and I'm not going to say a guy is good for putting up one 4.8 ypc season, but if a career spans 3 years with an average over 4.4 ypc then I think we're probably talking about a good player. In this case, Anderson is at 4.6 ypc through 3 seasons, with two of those seasons behind very mediocre offensive lines and with poor QB play. I'll admit, I was fully skeptical after 2014, but he showed enough in 2015 and 2016 to convince me he's a legitimate talent.

And looking forward, Denver has the defense to stay in games and doesn't have a passing game to lean on, so he should be heavily involved unless they bring in someone (right now he's clearly the best back on the team).
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http://intentionalrounding.com/when-do-yards-and-touchdowns-per-carry-stabilize/

 
Biabreakable said:
Based on some of the stuff I have been reading McCoy as the offensive coordinator now and Jeff Davidson as the offensive line coach signals a move away from the ZBS of Kubiak and perhaps more man blocking, which is what Davidson prefers and I think a lot of SD runs last year were man blocking as well.

CJ Anderson is very good in the ZBS because of his stature, his weight, his vision, change of direction ability and being a fire plug RB who can get good yards after contact running over defenders knees.

I am not sure if Anderson will fit as well in a man blocking system as he did Kubiaks offense.

Booker comes from a ZBS system in Utah so the change in scheme may not fit him as well as Kubiaks offense did either. He didn't do as well in Kubiaks offense as CJ Anderson did though.

McCoy will adjust to the personnel he has. He showed that with Denver before when Tebow was the QB. So the offense should be tailored somewhat to what the players do best. I just know that Jeff Davidson prefers more man blocking than Kubiak did. Davidson has been with McCoy before in Carolina and also last season with the Chargers. So there is long standing relationship between these two coaches.

I think the main concern for Anderson and Booker is that there are a lot of good RB coming into the league this year. I think Booker is a very good RB capable of beating out a lot of NFL players at his position, but if the Bronco's do not see it that way. a new starter may soon be added to their team. Booker was a 4th round pick last season, so any pick in the first 3 rounds of the 2017 draft would be putting both Anderson and Booker on notice that their days are numbered.

If the Broncos do not draft a RB high, I would take that as a signal that they are happy with Anderson and Booker and not looking to upgrade at this time.

As mentioned McCoy has shown an interest in having a 3rd down pass specialist RB. Booker is more effective as a receiver than Anderson is. So for now, that receiving RB role should be Bookers to lose. However if the Broncos drafted McCaffrey or possibly Kamara, that role as a receiving RB might be lost to faster more dynamic player.

I don't really see Anderson being in the mix for Denver beyond this season unless he manages to stay healthy and be consistent for the first time of his career. He will be 27 years old in 2018 and at the end of his contract. I think he needs to play 13 games (well) to hold on to his job. The Broncos showed some reluctance to give him the money they did last season. The talk for awhile has been about Anderson staying healthy a full season. He got kind of a prove it contract last year (matching the offer made by Miami) but he didn't stay healthy.
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considering 2 of the top 5 highest paid players on the team are WR's....you would think they would look at going run-and-shoot.....

DT and Sanders both in NFL top 12 WR salaries....

 
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Stinkin Ref said:
considering 2 of the top 5 highest paid players on the team are WR's....you would think they would look at going run-and-shoot.....
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Hard to say what McCoys plans for the offense might be. I just think it will be pretty different than what Kubiak was doing.

 
Biabreakable said:
Hard to say what McCoys plans for the offense might be. I just think it will be pretty different than what Kubiak was doing.
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KC fan living in CO so watched every Bronco game....the oline is beyond awful....Leary or no Leary....they have nothing at either tackle position....and their center who they just gave more money to coming off of off season double hip surgery...with a line like that it makes it hard to run or pass....IMO they might be best off trying to find a legit WR3 with some quicks (ala Edelman/Gabriel/something)....draft McCaffrey to run some patterns out of backfield/slot....and just sit in the shotgun and let Siemien air it out...until he gets crippled by Mack, Justin Houston, or Joey Bosa.....

indications are Lynch is be given a shot to win the job....but either way....with no Romo and that line...I'm passing on all Bronco players fantasy wise....

 
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Stinkin Ref said:
considering 2 of the top 5 highest paid players on the team are WR's....you would think they would look at going run-and-shoot.....
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RnS needs 4 WRs. I am not sure Denver is comfortable playing Fowler and Lattimore every play. Also without TEs, it might get the QB killed. However, Lynch with his ability to play from shotgun and rollout might be a good fit for it. 

 
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As a Vikings fan who only watched 4 or 5 Bronco's games, I agree that their offensive line was very bad last year. Competing with the Vikings and Seahawks for worst in the league.

I think the Vikings win that competition and were a bit worse than Denver and Seattle. But it was close. They were not very good. I don't see the free agent additions making that much of an impact either. They still need some tackles as you mention.

So until that is fixed, not really a dream landing spot that Denver has been in the past.

They could get a good tackle in the draft and perhaps that works out ok.

One of the chargers games that I watched last year, I think it was a game against Denver, and it seemed like they were just running the dive play with Gordon over and over again. It makes a bit of sense I guess as it is hard to get to the outside on Denvers defense, but it did not seem creative or inspired game planning to me. Gordon does end up getting a big run at one point. But most of the plays McCoy was just running him into a wall with that play.

 
Don't want anything to do with Denver either, loss of Kubiak will definitely be felt on offense. New coaching staff is not married to any players and runs a different scheme. There might be some value here after the draft (especially with the WR's) or if everyone is similarily down on the Bronco's as a whole. But way too risky pre-draft.

 
Ilov80s said:
RnS needs 4 WRs. I am not sure Denver is comfortable playing Fowler and Lattimore every play. Also without TEs, it might get the QB killed. However, Lynch with his ability to play from shotgun and rollout might be a good fit for it. 
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i was actually completely joking about the whole run and shoot thing.....just more along the lines of there is a reason two of their highest paid players are WR's and you would think they would lean in that direction moving forward if you wanted to lean toward your strength......which might also impact the running game....but unless they pull off a miracle on the offensive line, it might not make a difference....

 
Stinkin Ref said:
i was actually completely joking about the whole run and shoot thing.....just more along the lines of there is a reason two of their highest paid players are WR's and you would think they would lean in that direction moving forward if you wanted to lean toward your strength......which might also impact the running game....but unless they pull off a miracle on the offensive line, it might not make a difference....
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Yeah I know, nobody runs it anymore. I would love to see it come back.

 
I'd stay far away from this scenario. Booker didn't really dazzle but CJ wasn't either. Sure, the OL was a factor but nothing has changed behind center and that is the big reason IMO. New coaching helps I'm sure but we have no idea what will happen with that; does CJ even fit the scheme? Maybe they go for a rookie RB? Do they bring in a guy like AP? 

No matter what happens in the draft, FA, preseason, I'm staying far away from this mess unless it's my RB3

 
Definitely a hold for me.  DEN's D is going to keep them in games, and the passing game is nothing to write home about. I see DEN wanting to shorten games by running a lot.  It's easier to run block than to pass block, and Booker is the second coming of Tatum Bell.

It may not be optimal, but there could certainly be some opportunity there just on the potential volume stand point, with some upside.

 
He's lazy. He will do enough to stay on the team and battle for carries. He's good enough to hold the job outright but he lacks the desire to do so. The talent is there. Won't play thru minor injuries. I man the guy get tackled and comes up hobbling.

 
Ilov80s said:
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Eh, I'm not looking for the ypc to stabilize, I'm looking for something to gauge a guy's ability. I think it is better to compare blocking vs. production. In each of his 3 years with a statistically significant amount of carries, CJA has outperformed based on his line's blocking: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol (can change the year with the drop down menu).

To me, CJA getting 4.0 ypc when the line was only blocking enough for 3.8 is more impressive than DJ running for 4.2 when the line was blocking 4.2. And Booker running for 3.5 while CJA ran for 4.0 also gives CJA some legitimacy in my mind.

 
DropKick said:
Nevertheless, he could be outperformed by Crowell, Ware, Coleman, Montgomery, Lacy, Kelley, L. Murray etc.

ETA: Denver's offense is kind of in limbo right now.  Certainly not the typically productive offense most of us remember.
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The only Lacy is outperforming on that list is trips to the buffet. 

 
I'm thinking with the coaching change and philosophy/scheme change....probably not....however with the injury and the perceived lack of recent success could equate to a value play on draft day....however Booker looked terrible last year and they might address the position again in the draft....

 
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 I think people forget how much the top backs change from year to year and how little it has to do with their own talent. 

Lesean mccoy has almost 9000 rushing yards in 9 seasons.  You would think most of his seasons are about 1100 yards give or take a couple hundred.  Nope.  3 seasons are under 900 yards, 3  are over 1300, and 3 somewhere in between.  

The questions you should be asking aren't just "how many yards is he going to have" and "how talented is he" but "is he going to start" and "does he run, catch and score touchdowns".  If Anderson starts, I'm not really concerned about whether he can run/catch/score, but he has to get healthy and survive the nfl draft first. Those are the much bigger concerns imo. 


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bostonfred said:
.....he was on pace for  .....

That 12 games is pace for ......

.....That's not sustainable, but it's an absurd 60 catch, 2100 yard, 20 td pace......

.....If he starts a full season it seems reasonable to project a pace between ......
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I have been playing FF for a LONG time, and I don't think I've ever heard more theoretical statistics that a player didn't actually get but was "on pace" for as often as CJ Anderson.

And then September comes.

CJ may be a first ballot HOF'er based on imaginary statistics alone. I've never heard of any player rack up nearly as many yards in June based on what he didn't get last year, but if you take a slice of what happened the previous year and you pretend he was able to actually do that over an entire year.... and then you squint really hard......

 
BoltBacker said:
I have been playing FF for a LONG time, and I don't think I've ever heard more theoretical statistics that a player didn't actually get but was "on pace" for as often as CJ Anderson.
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Clearly not long enough to recall the mountain of unsubstantiated hype that was Christine Michael...

 
BoltBacker said:
I have been playing FF for a LONG time, and I don't think I've ever heard more theoretical statistics that a player didn't actually get but was "on pace" for as often as CJ Anderson.

And then September comes.

CJ may be a first ballot HOF'er based on imaginary statistics alone. I've never heard of any player rack up nearly as many yards in June based on what he didn't get last year, but if you take a slice of what happened the previous year and you pretend he was able to actually do that over an entire year.... and then you squint really hard......
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Keenan Allen down? 

(checks the Internet to see if Keenan Allen is actually down again...dammit, he is)

 
BoltBacker said:
I have been playing FF for a LONG time, and I don't think I've ever heard more theoretical statistics that a player didn't actually get but was "on pace" for as often as CJ Anderson.

And then September comes.

CJ may be a first ballot HOF'er based on imaginary statistics alone. I've never heard of any player rack up nearly as many yards in June based on what he didn't get last year, but if you take a slice of what happened the previous year and you pretend he was able to actually do that over an entire year.... and then you squint really hard......
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I think he's an above average player at best.  Probably average. But when he plays he's good enough.  He's been in time shares because he isn't that good. When he's started he's put up good numbers, and he gets receptions and tds on top of decent career rushing average, so what matters to me is whether he starts, and i think that's a risk right now.  I don't even see how that's a controversial stance.

 
This seems like the kind of thread where everyone will get a chance to be right and pound their chest at how awesome they are.  Denver will draft a back and the anti-Anderson crowd will cheer.  Then Anderson will put up some stats and be seen as a weekly low end RB1/solid RB2 either through snagging recs and TDs away from the starter or injury ahead on the depth chart or whatever.  And pro-Anderson crowd members will cheer, proclaiming backness has been bounced to.  Then the knee/ankle/hip injury sends him to the sideline again and we go full circle to I Told You So's from the antis, and Bob's your uncle.

 
bostonfred said:
 I think people forget how much the top backs change from year to year and how little it has to do with their own talent. 

Lesean mccoy has almost 9000 rushing yards in 9 seasons.  You would think most of his seasons are about 1100 yards give or take a couple hundred.  Nope.  3 seasons are under 900 yards, 3  are over 1300, and 3 somewhere in between.  

The questions you should be asking aren't just "how many yards is he going to have" and "how talented is he" but "is he going to start" and "does he run, catch and score touchdowns".  If Anderson starts, I'm not really concerned about whether he can run/catch/score, but he has to get healthy and survive the nfl draft first. Those are the much bigger concerns imo. 


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1,267




5.4




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BUF





203




895




4.4




3



 



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PHI





312




1,319




4.2




5



 



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PHI





314




1,607




5.1




9



 



2012





PHI





200




840




4.2




2



 



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PHI





273




1,309




4.8




17



 



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PHI





207




1,080




5.2




7



 



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PHI





155




637




4.1




4



 



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1,898




8,954




4.7




60
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This is mostly just because of missed games. McCoy had a smaller role as a rookie and a career year in 2013, but other than that he has steadily been cranking out 1100-1400 rushing yards per 16 games. (Rushing yardage pace by season: 637, 1152, 1396, 1120, 1607, 1319, 1193, 1351.)

 
cockroach said:
This seems like the kind of thread where everyone will get a chance to be right and pound their chest at how awesome they are.  Denver will draft a back and the anti-Anderson crowd will cheer.  Then Anderson will put up some stats and be seen as a weekly low end RB1/solid RB2 either through snagging recs and TDs away from the starter or injury ahead on the depth chart or whatever.  And pro-Anderson crowd members will cheer, proclaiming backness has been bounced to.  Then the knee/ankle/hip injury sends him to the sideline again and we go full circle to I Told You So's from the antis, and Bob's your uncle.
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Pretty solid prognostication.  :)

 
cockroach said:
This seems like the kind of thread where everyone will get a chance to be right and pound their chest at how awesome they are.  Denver will draft a back and the anti-Anderson crowd will cheer.  Then Anderson will put up some stats and be seen as a weekly low end RB1/solid RB2 either through snagging recs and TDs away from the starter or injury ahead on the depth chart or whatever.  And pro-Anderson crowd members will cheer, proclaiming backness has been bounced to.  Then the knee/ankle/hip injury sends him to the sideline again and we go full circle to I Told You So's from the antis, and Bob's your uncle.
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I agree. And if that transpires the folks who voted "NAY" on whether CJ Anderson is a "bounce back" candidate(don't you have to have a single season of 1,000 yards rushing to bounce back from anything?) will probably be proven correct. Just as the people who have avoided over drafting him the past two season have been proven correct as his production has only continued to diminish. 

 
tangfoot said:
Keenan Allen down? 

(checks the Internet to see if Keenan Allen is actually down again...dammit, he is)
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I guess the difference is Keenan Allen has never had an ADP as the #6 WR(or even the top 10 WR's for that matter).

2015 was just a hyperbolic mess for those that were dumb enough to draft CJ Anderson as the #6 RB. I mean I appreciated it, and will again if Cecil and Mathew Berry stand on the table for CJ again. They never seem to learn their lesson and have megaphones that people seem to listen to.

 
Arodin said:
Clearly not long enough to recall the mountain of unsubstantiated hype that was Christine Michael...
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To me that's a completely different situation, calling out a flyer that you expect to break out and never actually does. In fact, as recently as last year Michael was drafted as the #41RB off the board and finished the #28RB off the board so those playing in deep leagues were probably happy last year. That was the highest he's every been hyped and he actually performed better than expected. Certainly better than I expected, I wish I had drafted him.

 
BoltBacker said:
To me that's a completely different situation, calling out a flyer that you expect to break out and never actually does. In fact, as recently as last year Michael was drafted as the #41RB off the board and finished the #28RB off the board so those playing in deep leagues were probably happy last year. That was the highest he's every been hyped and he actually performed better than expected. Certainly better than I expected, I wish I had drafted him.
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How about David Wilson then, there are literally 100's of these players. 

 
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