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Colin Kaepernick Thread and related anthem kneeling issues/news (5 Viewers)
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squistion
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Hey, I'm a younger version of Matt Schaub and Chad Pennington is a sure-fire convincing argument to get signed.
Yenrub
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Why would Kaepernick play for the Dolphins? He's against innocent people getting beat down.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Im trying to figure out why Dallas/Miami is the Fox noon game we get here this weekend.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
1 Yes, Matt Schaub is Matt Ryan's back up in Atlanta
2. Tiki and Tierney did a poll yesterday on whether people want to see Kaepernick in the NFL again. 54% said no. What owner signs up to alienate more than half the fan base?
2. Tiki and Tierney did a poll yesterday on whether people want to see Kaepernick in the NFL again. 54% said no. What owner signs up to alienate more than half the fan base?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
With todays 24 hours new cycle in another year 54% will say who?? Many people now already hardly remember when he was relevant as a player. Last good year Matt Forte, Pierre Thomas, Maurice Drew, Garcon, Boldin were still stars.
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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Probably true, though the media and activists will remind them. Just reinforcing the point that owners don't need other owners to figure out it may not be a good business decision.
squistion
Footballguy
That was a voluntary on-line poll, no? If so, then it is of dubious validity as it only reflects the opinions of their limited audience of viewers and can't be extrapolated to what the actual fan base of any individual team or what NFL fans in general think.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Really does not matter what any fan wants or thinks. If a team thinks the good outweighs the bad he will be signed, if not he will not be signed. In fact with all the injuries this year right now will probably be his last chance to get back in the league. If it does not happen this year it will never happen.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Fair point about extrapolating. Though it does suggest there may be more passion on the no side than the yes side. And it probably does vary by fan base, reflecting different geographies.
squistion
Footballguy
That is not always true. The owner of the Ravens was considering Kaep in 2017 and crowd sourced the fans asking their opinion. And negative Cuban fan reaction in Miami nixed his chances there. It does go into the mix and might determine if the good (like maybe winning some games) outweighs what would be IMO a short term negative reaction and controversy. I don't think going on 3 years that it would still be that big a deal (see Kenny Stills who was traded to Houston without incident).
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Pretty sure his not very intelligent girlfriend calling the owner a racist is why he didn't become a Raven. But keep on doubling down with all the false narratives this thread never disappoints
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Reached out to Houston police chief upon arrival.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/texans-kenny-stills-patriotism-praise-anthem-protests
squistion
Footballguy
The false narrative was by Ray Lewis claiming that Nessa was to blame - Deadspin and Phil Simms found this account ridiculous and hard to believe. And it must be noted that to this day, no one has ever gone on the record and confirmed that what Lewis said was true.
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Who is he? A #2 or 3 WR will not be covered by the media. So there is no circus as nobody ever even mentions Stills unless he scores a TD.
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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
I have no idea if the tweet played a role, but just because Deadspin and Simms decided, without any evidence it is silly ( I looked up the reporting)doesn't mean anything. And, of course no one in the organization is going to confirm that.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Phil Simms. And deadspin 
squistion
Footballguy
I am sure there are those who were with the team in 2017 (either as a player or in the organization) that no longer are, yet no one has come forward in two years to confirm what Lewis said was true. I believe that Dead Spin and Simms found it lacking in credibility that any owner would care about what a player's girlfriend (who he would have no control over) had to say on Twitter or Facebook. Also, Lewis may have been putting some spin out at the direction of the Raven's team to make it appear that this was the reason he was not signed, rather than being part of blackballing Kaep for his kneeling protest.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Harbaugh had the chance to deny it and instead claimed ignorance. Do you think he was kept in the dark?If you think others knew, wouldn't he be one of them?
squistion
Footballguy
He also had a chance to confirm it and claimed ignorance (if you want to look at it that way too). He is still the HC of this team and any response outside of that he was unaware of what happened could get him in trouble. He is in a lose/lose situation.
If he says that Nessa's tweets weren't the reason, then it adds to the collusion/blackballing narrative.
If he says they were the reason (but the truth is they weren't) then he could later be contradicted by someone going on the record in the future saying that this was just a story cooked up Raven's management to hide the fact that they didn't want to sign Kaep because of the anthem protests.
Also if he says, "Yes, it was Nessa's tweets" (assuming that is true) then ownership and management will be asked to confirm or deny what he said, which puts them in a sticky situation - I doubt they would want to admit publically what any player's girlfriend says on social media influences roster decisions.
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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Yes! That's why lack of confirmation is not evidence. Just like the opinions of Deadspin/Simms is not evidence.
Look, I don't know if he's your BIL or something, but you clearly have very strong feelings on him and I will leave them be.
Look, I don't know if he's your BIL or something, but you clearly have very strong feelings on him and I will leave them be.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Speak For Yourself
@SFY
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Before We Go: The NFL will do more to advance black men than all the Colin Kaepernick supporters [Capernicks] combined. —
@WhitlockJason
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Before We Go: The NFL will do more to advance black men than all the Colin Kaepernick supporters [Capernicks] combined. —
@WhitlockJason
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Speak For Yourself
@SFY
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@MarcellusWiley
lists the reasons why the Kap story won’t go away: 1. He has become polarizing 2. He speaks for a lot of different camps (black and disenfranchised, people of color who are voiceless and powerless, mixed race people with identity balances, etc.)
@SFY
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@MarcellusWiley
lists the reasons why the Kap story won’t go away: 1. He has become polarizing 2. He speaks for a lot of different camps (black and disenfranchised, people of color who are voiceless and powerless, mixed race people with identity balances, etc.)
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Speak For Yourself
@SFY
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Sep 18
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@WhitlockJason
explains why Kaepernick isn't on an NFL team "Think of being a head coach… If you take on the Kap situation and decide he’s not good enough you’re now going to be labeled as racist… It's not worth the risk."
@SFY
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Sep 18
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@WhitlockJason
explains why Kaepernick isn't on an NFL team "Think of being a head coach… If you take on the Kap situation and decide he’s not good enough you’re now going to be labeled as racist… It's not worth the risk."
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
He signed yet?
Riddick02
Footballguy
A guy who has repeated himself multiple times over in this thread posting about a guy repeating himself, oh the irony.
As Jethro says, no way it could slow down.Is it me or is this thread more repetitive than Groundhog Day? The same things on this page are on 100 different pages.
It is such athat it is fun!
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Just seems to be a lot of thread activity for a guy who hasn’t done anything in 3 years
Van Dyman
Footballguy
FiveThirtyEight: "Colin Kaepernick Is Probably Still Good Enough For The NFL"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaf0KHK9Sw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1-x6voIhkRv0sE-OUd4NIp9i3nCrZKqGIYhm8tx_e5pYMoGh7FiX0Q2T8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaf0KHK9Sw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1-x6voIhkRv0sE-OUd4NIp9i3nCrZKqGIYhm8tx_e5pYMoGh7FiX0Q2T8
HellToupee
Footballguy
VeryIs it me or is this thread more repetitive than Groundhog Day? The same things on this page are on 100 different pages.
It is such a
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
LMAO...comparing Antonio Brown and what he did in the NFL to Colin is beyond laughable.
squistion
Footballguy
The Daily Show @TheDailyShow Sep 21
After a rash of NFL quarterbacks go down with injuries, many are wondering whether Colin Kaepernick will get the call.
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1175545492169732096 (video clip at link)
After a rash of NFL quarterbacks go down with injuries, many are wondering whether Colin Kaepernick will get the call.
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1175545492169732096 (video clip at link)
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
The Daily Show offering opinions on sports...what is next....comments from The View on the upcoming Packers Eagles game Thursday night?
timschochet
Footballguy
Somehow I knew this thread would show up today.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Appreciate the reminder. For the 1500th time. You can post this again next week and the next week and the next week. Terrible QBs that cause distractions usually aren't rostered
squistion
Footballguy
And for the 1500th time, he is not a terrible QB and the only way to prove or disprove that is for to have him sign and play for a team, then the argument will be settled as to his playing ability (or lack thereof).
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
For the 1,956th time, he is not terrible; he is just not great enough to be worth the drama and media circus that would come with him.
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
3 for his last 19 is terrible in my book. I realize you may have lower standards though. But agree he's not worth the drama
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
It's not about low standards; it's about recognizing that wins and losses are not the only thing by which to judge a QB.
Trubisky is 13-4 in his last 17 regular season starts...do you think he is great?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
Max Power
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