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That's the one spot where I'm sure the wound hasn't healed.The Chiefs would be a perfect landing spot.
he made 645k this year so you are probably not wrong but he's not going to get a ton i suspect
Well, there's the money aspect, which is huge, but I'm sure he also wants the opportunity to be the featured back. I think he's in a good position to get both.
i suspect he will be lucky to get ingram money but what do i know...i'm sure he wants to be featured however.
"Lucky to get Ingram money". I'm sure he would be delighted to get a decent contract more than what he got in 2019. I believe the combination of more money and opportunity is a foregone conclusion with Hunt.
I doubt they tender him at a 1st or 2nd. Like you said, this draft is loaded and they could spend a 5th rd pick on a pretty good RB to replace him.
The Browns just hold all the cards. Worse case is they lose Hunt after the 2020 season due to him becoming a unrestricted free agent. The Browns would then get a compensatory pick in the 2021 draft, probably a 3rd rounder. Best case for the Browns is a team really wants Hunt now and they can work out some kind of trade. For example, the Browns tender Hunt at a 2nd rounder, then they can trade his rights to another team for less than that, maybe a team will give the Browns a 3rd and 5th round pick or a player. The new team will have to pay Hunt at the 2nd round tender $$$ though, or they could also agree to a new contract which would be a 99% chance of occurring. A team would not make that trade without having discussions with Hunt and his agent. If the Browns only tender Hunt at a 3rd round value, they are almost giving Hunt away. I could be totally wrong, but this is how I see it. The Texans ended up giving the Browns a 3rd round pick for Duke Johnson (it was a 4th round conditional, which ended up being a 3rd). I’m sure the Browns would want more than that for Hunt. A 3rd round tender is just a little over $2 million.
$4.4M for one season isn't much for a playmaker and it all but guarantees no one makes a big offer for him - and if they do, they get to replace him with ETN or Dobbins for 1/2 the money? I think that's a no-brainer. They are rolling $32M over and have plenty more, and a ton of ways to clear more - Vernon would be $15M, Kirksey and Carrie another $7M each.JohnnyU said:
Not so fast. I think he still gets tendered with a 2 (maybe a 3), but will another team offer a contract and be willing to lose the pick? Because I think it's much more likely the Browns take the pick now instead.
Not exactly how the formula works, but doesnt matter this year. He's RFA. Not UFA. But because of that I think he still gets tendered with a 2.
I hope you’re right, but I don’t necessarily agree. Hunt’s talent is undeniable and any new GM would prob want to take advantage of his contract situation
It would be a 2022 pick and there would be a chance they wouldn’t get any pick at all let alone a third. A third would mean he was signed to a big money contract and the Browns added no one else.
I can’t see any team offering Hunt big money and forfeiting a second (or even a third) round pick to do so. It would be way smarter to just take a RB in the second at the rookie rate.
In theory that sounds great, but Hunt has a proven track record and is a top 10 talent at his position. He’s young, durable, a true 3 down back, and can still be had for a decent price, in comparison to other top 10 guys at his position. With the amount of draft picks that don’t hit, I see a few GM’s opt for a sure thing and pay Hunt. He’s a difference maker and teams like the Lions, Bucs, Dolphins, 49ers (imagine him in that offense), Steelers, Jags (if Leonard signs elsewhere), and others would we wise to at least consider giving him a deal.
You never know. I would definitely agree if he was an UFA but if a team has to pay him and give up the pick? I just don’t see a GM making a mistake like that - although there’s many foolish teams out there I guess.
Having seen him up close for this past (half) season, I am VERY impressed. If you asked me to choose one, him or Chubb, I honestly don't know which I'd take. He does it all -- with strength. IMO, he is a top 10 talent.
I agree on the last part, but I dont think it'll be big money. That's why I think it's a realistic possibility.
He’s definitely talented. If we want to throw out a generic “top 10 talent” tag for him I guess I can buy that but, it’s relative. Off the top of my head I think the following backs are clearly better:
The second round tender is $3MM(?) so that would be the starting point. I guess maybe “big money” was a bit hyperbolic but I still just don’t think giving away a value pick for the right to sign a RB at $4/5MM per season is wise.
Who are the ten guys you would take over him and where would you rank him? As for the KC RB situation, they desperately missed him this season.
I responded to some one else with a list. I will concede that I wouldn’t argue with anyone that had him in the back half of the Top 10, but I still don’t see a team giving up a second day pick for the right to pay him, especially when guys like Henry and Gordon could be had for just the money and with a draft class that universally considered deep and talented at RB. I’ve been wrong many times though.
I don't think it is either, but 2020 Hunt is an upgrade to whatever is available at some point in the 2nd round of the draft (yes I realize how loaded this class is). And while I get there is more to it than just that many GM's have shown in the past they will use that as justification anyway.
Hunt would surely be the most talented back on their roster but like you said they’ve already heavily invested at RB and were fine with Coleman, Mostert and Breida (and they get McKinnon back theoretically). They are the top seed in a stacked NFC afterall.
I disagree very much here...
Actually... now that I look at their 2020 cap, they really dont have a lot tied up at rb.
I think it's far more likely that zero RBs go in round 1. I don't expect any RBs this year to be round 1 types. None of them are that good, frankly, but I guess a team might still take one of them in the late first. Josh Jacobs wasn't a round 1 type either, but a stupid team drafted him there.
Well, they'd be giving up a round 2 pick either way in your scenario, why not pay 5 Mill or even a bit more for a player of Hunt's caliber. There's no guarantee at all that a round 2 pick will pan out. Look at Rashard Penny drafted in round 1, Sony Michel who's decent I guess, and those are round 1 guys. And countless others.
Naming 1st and 2nd round busts and me countering with 2nd and 3rd round stars is a rabbit hole I think both of us would rather not go down.
Can’t see BAL taking a RB in the first 2, probably 3 rounds unless outstanding value drops.
Hunt is a unique talent. Could argue top 5 talent as demonstrated pre suspension, especially on a team that utilizes backs in the receiving game.
I agree but have read otherwise.
