Foreman is in Houston, behind Miller. Interesting stash prospect.Don't forget about Foreman. He could end up in a good situation.
Until week 6, when Reid forgets who he is.Kareem Hunt landed in great spot.
Not a great spot for Cook because of the putrid OL, but at least he should stay out of trouble during the long winters here in Minnesota. Not a lot to do here unless he likes ice fishing, snowmobiles, or cross country skiing. I guess he will have to wait until summer to get into trouble back in Dade county.I think Cook has the best opportunity to be great with the Vikes. I don't trust the Jags yet.
The Vikings offensive line will likely have three new starters. At least two.Not a great spot for Cook because of the putrid OL, but at least he should stay out of trouble during the long winters here in Minnesota. Not a lot to do here unless he likes ice fishing, snowmobiles, or cross country skiing.
I thought he didn't run behind a very good OL at FSU either?Not a great spot for Cook because of the putrid OL, but at least he should stay out of trouble during the long winters here in Minnesota. Not a lot to do here.
That may not be a good thing either, for at least another seasonThe Vikings offensive line will likely have three new starters. At least two.
1. Fournette
Yep agree1. Fournette
2. Mixon
3. McCaffrey
4. Cook
5. Foreman
6. Kamara
Your ranking had Cook #1. I have him 4th and almost put Foreman ahead of him.Yep agree
I needed a night to sleep on it... I thought Cook's spot was initially better than I'm realizing it was. Right now Fournette is my top RB by far. I went through his tape again this morning. I have never seen a guy consistently run over guys so much. And he is FAST. Once he gets to his top speed he might be the fastest person in the NFL with pads onYour ranking had Cook #1. I have him 4th and almost put Foreman ahead of him.
how juicy? where would you rank him out of the RBs? I liked Hunt coming out of college and the dynasty nerd guys love himKareem Hunt to the Chiefs is juicy
Right now, I think 4th behind Mixon, McCaffrey and Fournette.how juicy? where would you rank him out of the RBs? I liked Hunt coming out of college and the dynasty nerd guys love him
Running over guys in college is not the same as the NFL which I'm sure you already know. It also leads to a shorter career. I'll take the guy who makes people miss.I needed a night to sleep on it... I thought Cook's spot was initially better than I'm realizing it was. Right now Fournette is my top RB by far. I went through his tape again this morning. I have never seen a guy consistently run over guys so much. And he is FAST. Once he gets to his top speed he might be the fastest person in the NFL with pads on
Updated for Gallman. I actually like him and he went to a decent spot (Giants).1. Fournette
2. Mixon
3. McCaffrey
4. Cook
5. Foreman
6. Hunt
7. Gallman
8. Perine
9 Kamara
10. Mack
What are your thoughts on Marlon Mack selected by the Colts at the end of the 4th round? Gore is older than Methuselah. I just watched some videos on him and he has some gettyup.I have it Fournette, Mixon, McCaffrey, Cook.
Big dropoff after that cluster, IMO.
Like Mixon more than Fournette from an eyeball test/skill set standpoint. However, being a top 4 pick as a RB is no joke and Fournette will carry huge trade value for a while even if his performance is mediocre based solely on draft pedigree/name/hype.
Pretty average, IMO. A lot of these middle round guys can produce something if they get touches, but their long-term job security is nil.What are your thoughts on Marlon Mack selected by the Colts at the end of the 4th round? Gore is older than Methuselah.
Can't always say that about all middle rd guys. Where was Terrell Davis selected?Pretty average, IMO. A lot of these middle round guys can produce something if they get touches, but their long-term job security is nil.
Jordan Howard went in the 5th rd. I'm sure you can find lots of examples of RBs selected in the 4th or 5th rd that have been very good NFL players.If you think he's as good as Terrell Davis then by all means pick him in every league, but I don't see anything special about him.
He said "a lot of these middle round guys..." so calling out a few outliers doesn't change what he said.Jordan Howard went in the 5th rd. I'm sure you can find lots of examples of RBs selected in the 4th or 5th rd that have been very good NFL players.
Mack
Mack (5’11/213) needed only three college seasons to set USF all-time records in rushing yards (3,609), all-purpose yards (4,107), and touchdowns (33), finishing his career with an explosive 6.16 YPC average and 65 receptions. Mack confirmed his plus athleticism in Indy, posting a top-five SPARQ score among running backs with 4.5-flat speed and a springy 10-foot-5 broad jump. On college tape, Mack showed a tendency to bounce runs outside in persistent attempts to turn nothing into something, which can be viewed positively or negatively. Either way, Mack’s playmaking ability and versatility are undeniable. He has some Tevin Coleman to his game as a multi-phase weapon who is dangerous in open space.
OK, but we could make that blanket statement every year. While true, I would like to think about players who turn out like Howard.He said "a lot of these middle round guys..." so calling out a few outliers doesn't change what he said.
I really like the Colts' draft. They picked some good defensive players. Some good DBs, run stuffers on the line, a pass rusher, a needed OL right guard or tackle, and a decent RB prospect. I also like the Hankins FA signing. The Colts should be a decent run stopping team this year. They do needs some more pass rushers however.For the record I think Mack has nice speed and decent size and glides well. He can be explosive. He carries the ball really weirdly so hopefully he doesn't get it stripped by better NFL defenders. Landing in Indy definitely makes him intriguing.
Mack is one of those guys where you look at the team and say 'How can he not be the guy going forward?'. Then the next year Gore is gone & they really address the RB spot with a Saquon Barkley and you have nothing.What are your thoughts on Marlon Mack selected by the Colts at the end of the 4th round? Gore is older than Methuselah. I just watched some videos on him and he has some gettyup.
I guess we could say that, but I tend to think about what the situation is now with this draft and not think too much who they will take next year. If Mack turns out to be good, then that's great, if not, then it's not like they are greatly invested in him.Mack is one of those guys where you look at the team and say 'How can he not be the guy going forward?'. Then the next year Gore is gone & they really address the RB spot with a Saquon Barkley and you have nothing.
One year wonders?OK, but we could make that blanket statement every year. While true, I would like to think about players who turn out like Howard.
The cost, however, should be low (from a FF perspective). Mid-2nd? It's not like he'll be a top-5 rookie pick.Mack is one of those guys where you look at the team and say 'How can he not be the guy going forward?'. Then the next year Gore is gone & they really address the RB spot with a Saquon Barkley and you have nothing.
If he does that in the NFL, that ball is going to look like a squirrel without a tree, teasing a pack of pitbulls.For the record I think Mack has nice speed and decent size and glides well. He can be explosive. He carries the ball really weirdly so hopefully he doesn't get it stripped by better NFL defenders. Landing in Indy definitely makes him intriguing.
Yes. It just sucks when you draft a guy that should be the guy and then the NFL team thinks they need another guy.The cost, however, should be low (from a FF perspective). Mid-2nd? It's not like he'll be a top-5 rookie pick.
more like the NFL has been around for 51 years. why not look at drafts a little earlier than 2016 to see how mid round RB picks have turned out?JohnnyU said:glass half empty?
At what point do we feel good about a 4th rounder? Never?more like the NFL has been around for 51 years. why not look at drafts a little earlier than 2016 to see how mid round RB picks have turned out?
this is a dyno thread. jordan howard is hardly informative...
On the other hand...Five of the top ten backs in my Zealots PPR league were 4th rounders or higher.
Howard
Ajayi
Blount
Freeman
Miller
Two others were third rounders.
David Johnson
Demarco Murray