hardcoredx
Footballguy
Seriously comparing garbage like Jones to Kamara and Mccaffrey?
You hate hate to see it.... lmao newb
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RB Aaron Jones, MIN (5 Viewers)
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You hate hate to see it.... lmao newb
Interseptopus
Footballguy
packer junkie has been around longer than you, and I recognize his handle versus I've never heard of you... (in reference to the childish "newb" label)
furthermore, his comment was I response to you saying Aaron Jones "not being built to last"
kamara: 5'10, 215
CMC: 5'10, 205
Ekeler: 5'10, 201
Jones: 5'10, 207
If Jones isnt built to last, then none of those guys are either
Hate to see it when people dont read the context of a post...
Jones' body type is certainly built to last as much as CMC. What raises alarm for me is his running style, as that can set him up to take an extra beating. His long term health is a concern for now. If he can stay healthy all season I think he makes a strong case for himself.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
Jones runs a lot different and less elusively when he finishes his runs than the other guys mentioned above. Especially Kamara and CMC don't take hits like Jones does.
hardcoredx
Footballguy
Yeah right except Jones isn’t anywhere near the caliber you those 2. Also, those other 2 can actually last an entire season. I could care less how long he’s been, it sure as hell doesn’t mean he understands RB talent. Talent always wins and he’s just a can.Dr. Dan said:
Interseptopus
Footballguy
We arent talking about his talent caliber.
You're the one that brought up his body size not being built to last, which was misguided at best
and it's you couldnt care less... (pet peeve)
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Talent? Like having CMC as his closest comparable comp in athleticism and collegiate production? https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/aaron-jones/
hardcoredx
Footballguy
Well you are the one who is misguided. There are very few at that size out of the dozens and dozens that will last. His injury history has proven that. Deal with it
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Well, I agree that he wont last. I dont think his size has anything to do with it, however.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I don't think Green Bay is splitting time between Jones and Williams just to limit Jones production and subsequent contract negotiations.
Teams want to win. They play the players they think give them the best chance to do that.
I think Williams is still better than Jones at pass protection as the main reason for the time share.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Newb makes no sense?
Not comparing their talent, comparing their stature.
Keep degrading people though-- seems to be working out really well for you.
hardcoredx
Footballguy
The stature? uhhh those guys break tackles, especially Kamara and always move the pile forward. He simply isn’t strong enough or durable enough to be a lead back. His 10 carries and 19 yds would normally bury teams that played him, bailed out by 2 tds. Outplayed by Jwill.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
stature aside, the GB offense as a whole has been pretty mediocre, mid 20s in every statistical category and that's likely to continue. you can base the 2019 GB Packers offense on the 2018 Titans offense, minus the year-end surge by D. Henry. I don't think there's a lot to be excited about, and that includes Aaron Jones.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Maybe but Green Bay has played 2 of the best defenses in the NFL (Denver isn't too bad either). Green Bay's D has also limited 2 poor offenses. I am curious if things open up once they face better offenses and lesser defenses with Philly, Dallas, Oak, KC, LA and NYG coming up soon.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
If you want to die on this hill- be my guest. I think my stance (hes pretty good, really explosive-- but not as good as Kamara/Mcaff & needs to prove he can stay on the field) is a lot closer to rational thinking than "hes trash- he sucks- he kills every team hes on" blah blah blah-- coming from you-- especially when hes 4th in the NFL in FF PPG last two years and top 3 in YPC each of the last 2 full NFL seasons.hardcoredx said:
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Scooby1974
Footballguy
It sounds like they want to up JWill's carries and even things out. Is Williams worth a pickup to flex at this point? I could see GB continuing to move the ball, especially against some easier D's.
The Frankman
Footballguy
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
There’s something weirdly clunky in this GB offense.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Seemed like a lot of his carries care on 1st n 10. And they didn’t throw to him really until the last drive
And obviously should have carried it some on the 6? pass plays from inside the ####### 3 yd line
Couldve had a real nice ff game
And obviously should have carried it some on the 6? pass plays from inside the ####### 3 yd line
Couldve had a real nice ff game
The GB defense was a total clunker last night. But to your point, GB can't rely on Rodgers being Houdini in the pocket all year. The oline, the play calling and the scheme may be to blame. With Adams possibly out for a few games, it might get worse.
This is classic Packers though, dating all the way back to the Favre era. Maddening.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I watched the game last night and I didn't think Jones looked bad. The playcalling was obvious and did nothing to put him in a position to succeed. Once the playcalling opened up a bit towards the latter part of the game--Jones had some really nice plays. Of course--when they got in position to score on a couple possessions on 1st and goal--they literally abandoned how well he was doing and tried to stick to a passing game that had its best receiving weapon on the sidelines in Adams.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
What was particularly distressing about this sequence was that earlier in the game, Jones TD run showed a great nose for the end zone when it looked like he’d been stopped short.
The week before, Jones did a nice stiff arm to get into the end zone from the 1. I think he's an above average short yardage RB.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
What a game for this guy, crushing it for me. I just dealt for him but more as an added piece to a larger deal where the owner and I reasoned I was downgrading from Boyd to Aaron Jones...yikes. Haven't watched him a ton, didn't have an overall positive impression due to the injuries and the Packers poor offensive showings this year...this game is making me sit up and take notice.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
It's about time he was used this way. he hasnt been his entire career. It's great to see him finally being used
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Holy ####. 4 TD's.
Obviously this isn't a game you can ever expect.
But is he this good, when healthy?
Obviously this isn't a game you can ever expect.
But is he this good, when healthy?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
He got the goal line carries, which last week Lafleur was afraid to give to him for some reason. He also got a LOT of dump offs. Hes good, but he needs to be used the tight way (like today), and he needs to stay healthy. this is a good sign of things to come
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Been variable this year -- had over 100 against MIN but his stats weren't that hot in other games besides that and this one. He is used a lot in the receiving game, though, which definitely makes him that much more valuable and takes away variability in the run game.
Basically been a solid RB1/2 all year.
I will not. This is almost his second 200 yd game of the season. How many backs can do that twice in a given season?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Remember, no Jamal Williams here to eat into his work.
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montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
There was no Williams last week when they passed the ball 4x from the 1 yard line
Like everyone is saying this is what’s possible under ideal conditions, when he’s used the way he was yesterday. Williams coming back plus Adams eventually (I’m thinking of the dump offs there) probably will cut in like people are suggesting. I feel like we can all start drafting our “how are they giving Jamaal Williams this many carries?; Jones just had 4 TDS!” posts.
But I do think that this kind of breakout matters for the rest of the season and cements him more as a ff starter you can feel confident in. As @Stompin' Tom Connors said he’s quietly been pretty solid all season.
But I do think that this kind of breakout matters for the rest of the season and cements him more as a ff starter you can feel confident in. As @Stompin' Tom Connors said he’s quietly been pretty solid all season.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Last week I sold him 
...for Michael Thomas.
Deal feels a lot more even today though.
...for Michael Thomas.
Deal feels a lot more even today though.
Never underestimate the incompetence of coaches. Look how many snaps and touches Carson had despite being completely and totally inefficient. It’s cool if he’s seeing 20-25 touches while getting a 60% snap share... that wasn’t happening with Williams around for god knows what reason.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
That isn't really something to laugh at considering JWill got hurt taking carries as the starter on the first drive of the game.
Jones owners taking victory laps over the doubters shouldn't forgot they he basically was not even starting before Williams was injured. People were not wrong to be concerned. The coaching staff obviously was and maybe still is.
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