Chaos Commish
Footballguy
6 am, 22 hrs no food. Going to hit the trail before it gets too hot in the desert. I can't stop thinking of keto snacks. I may not make the fast goal, but I will be ultra low cal regardless.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
ChainsawU
Footballguy
Said no to her coming over tonight just now and she's having a little hissy fit as a result. Destroyed the day after a B12 shot this morning; ran errands and logged 30 minutes cardio at the gym followed by 50 minutes of lifting. So it's an INCREDIBLE keto day so far - still haven't eaten food since the beef tenderloin before bed last night. All I need is a meal and about 11 hours of sleep to parlay this sick run into tomorrow and she just doesn't understand
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Over three days (86 hours or thereabouts), I have had... cottage cheese and walnuts, a bigass smoked salmon salad, a banana, a cheese omelette. That's it. Deep into ketosis and feeling great. I'll wait until Monday (one week), to step on the scale, but I'm pretty sure mission accomplished if I keep the cals this low.
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
You sound like me.
Every October I have to do a health screening for my company-provided health insurance. There are three health targets that if met, I get a $50 discount per target per month. So there is a significant $$ incentive to meet these health targets. 1) is to simply do the health screening. 2) is to test negative for nicotine. And 3) is to be <= 27.5 BMI. Obviously the first two are easy. It's the BMI that always gives me trouble.
Last year I went from ~215 lbs down to 192 lbs in roughly 6 weeks by strict dieting/starvation/exercise. I didn't meet the BMI target. My BMI was 28.1, but there is an additional waist measurement clause for those with larger body frames. (Not saying I am a bodybuilder, but low-body-fat-% bodybuilders would never make the ideal BMI indices due to such large frames.) Luckily my waist measurement was small enough to meet this requirement, and I achieved all three targets last year. I am ahead of schedule this year. Got back from a month in Italy at the end of July. Weighed in at around 215 lbs again. Started Keto and am now already down to ~205. So I have about 6-7 weeks to lose another 15-20 lbs to reach my goal of 185-190 lbs.
Come September, I will be doing more crash dieting and strict calorie restriction to drop more weight. And then once I do my health screening in October, I'm sure that I will revert back to my ####ty and otherwise unhealthy lifestyle.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Slightly fell off the horse last night. I was craving chocolate big time the night before, and we didn't have any dark chocolate in the house. We had a chocolate s'mores bar in the cupboard someone got as a gift but never ate. I literally stared at it for three minutes trying to fight the temptation. I won, and should have just thrown it in the trash. It's been in the cupboard so long, obviously no one else wants it. Last night I was craving still, so I tore into it. I ate half of it (probably the amount of a regular sized candy bar) and it was heavenly. Not five minutes later my gut felt like crap and I had a headache.
Will be getting some dark chocolate to have on hand this weekend to curb the cravings in the future.
Will be getting some dark chocolate to have on hand this weekend to curb the cravings in the future.
Kind of silly to measure BMI as a health target, imo. If you have any sort of muscle mass, you're BMI is going to be higher. You could be ripped with 5% body fat but have a high BMI if you lift some.Tom Skerritt said:
You sound like me.
Every October I have to do a health screening for my company-provided health insurance. There are three health targets that if met, I get a $50 discount per target per month. So there is a significant $$ incentive to meet these health targets. 1) is to simply do the health screening. 2) is to test negative for nicotine. And 3) is to be <= 27.5 BMI. Obviously the first two are easy. It's the BMI that always gives me trouble.
Last year I went from ~215 lbs down to 192 lbs in roughly 6 weeks by strict dieting/starvation/exercise. I didn't meet the BMI target. My BMI was 28.1, but there is an additional waist measurement clause for those with larger body frames. (Not saying I am a bodybuilder, but low-body-fat-% bodybuilders would never make the ideal BMI indices due to such large frames.) Luckily my waist measurement was small enough to meet this requirement, and I achieved all three targets last year. I am ahead of schedule this year. Got back from a month in Italy at the end of July. Weighed in at around 215 lbs again. Started Keto and am now already down to ~205. So I have about 6-7 weeks to lose another 15-20 lbs to reach my goal of 185-190 lbs.
Come September, I will be doing more crash dieting and strict calorie restriction to drop more weight. And then once I do my health screening in October, I'm sure that I will revert back to my ####ty and otherwise unhealthy lifestyle.
Tell HR to fix their system. Maybe do body fat percentage instead?
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
Agreed. Which is why I mentioned the waist measurement clause. Low body fat % (and small waist measurement) effectively helps those with higher muscle mass.
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Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Day 1 - 195
Week 7 - 179.5
Week 8 - 181
Week 9 - 178.5
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Weekly Loss - 1.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 16.5
Last Four Week Trend - 1 lb loss
Continuing the 1 lb loss over 4 weeks that I've been doing the last couple of weeks. Essentially a plateau. Definitely have 10-15 pounds more I could lose around the middle, but I don't care about the pace at this point. I have no plans to go off the "diet" at any point anymore. It's how i would prefer to eat until I have a need to change. Did cheat again a couple of times this week. I don't let it get me off track for more than that one meal though, which helps.
I should probably take some "now" pictures and compare to the end of the winter. That's always my tough time, but I will not be coaching basketball this winter for the first time in a long time (no weekends at tournaments, and crazy schedules during the week). Would like to keep up to my manageable lifting routine I'm doing. Hopefully I can start next spring at a point where I absolutely refuse to take my shirt off for the summer.
Week 7 - 179.5
Week 8 - 181
Week 9 - 178.5
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Weekly Loss - 1.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 16.5
Last Four Week Trend - 1 lb loss
Continuing the 1 lb loss over 4 weeks that I've been doing the last couple of weeks. Essentially a plateau. Definitely have 10-15 pounds more I could lose around the middle, but I don't care about the pace at this point. I have no plans to go off the "diet" at any point anymore. It's how i would prefer to eat until I have a need to change. Did cheat again a couple of times this week. I don't let it get me off track for more than that one meal though, which helps.
I should probably take some "now" pictures and compare to the end of the winter. That's always my tough time, but I will not be coaching basketball this winter for the first time in a long time (no weekends at tournaments, and crazy schedules during the week). Would like to keep up to my manageable lifting routine I'm doing. Hopefully I can start next spring at a point where I absolutely refuse to take my shirt off for the summer.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Everyone jumps on the limitations of BMI, but a bunch of data supports it correlating to health outcomes. The vast majority of people don’t have enough muscle mass to skew the results.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Even the ones who lift aren’t usually in the obese BMI range; it’s ~5% for men and 1% for women. BMI is actually more likely to underreport obesity compared to body composition analysis, but every work out warrior wants to discredit it because they believe their beer gut is mostly muscle.
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In The Zone
Footballguy
I don't know if you drink coffee or not but this stuff will definitely give you a chocolate fix. It is a nice, rich, and decadent cup of chocolate coffee. I use it to make my iced coffees throughout the work week. Found it at Publix.
Barnie's Cafe Mocha Truffle
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Definitely would have given that a try when I drank coffee, but I've given up caffeine as well.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Figured a solution to the chocolate cravings. I made a batch of Keto Puppy Chow*. I first made it a couple of weeks ago, but we didn't have enough of all the ingredients, so I made a half batch, which I ate all in one sitting. It was too much, and I was just eating the last few pieces because I didn't think it was enough to save. I made a full batch last night, and just had a few pieces. It is sweet and rich enough to curb the craving with just that, and in that small amount, negligible carbs so no worries.
*Ingredients
Natural peanut butter
Butter
Coconut oil
unsweetened baking chocolate powder
Stevia
Vanilla
Pork rinds
*Ingredients
Natural peanut butter
Butter
Coconut oil
unsweetened baking chocolate powder
Stevia
Vanilla
Pork rinds
then back on.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Day 1 - 195
Week 8 - 181
Week 9 - 178.5
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Weekly Loss - 0.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 17.0
Last Four Week Trend - 3 lb loss
Downward trend continues, slowly bu surely (partially artificial as week 7 weight in was 178.5). Would have been lower, but Sunday consisted of a trip to the Minnesota State Fair, and consuming all the carbs, followed up by a family get together at my parents which included some more carbs and beer. Tonight is my fantasy draft which will include less than clean eating. Hoping to just maintain this week and not backslide.
Week 8 - 181
Week 9 - 178.5
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Weekly Loss - 0.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 17.0
Last Four Week Trend - 3 lb loss
Downward trend continues, slowly bu surely (partially artificial as week 7 weight in was 178.5). Would have been lower, but Sunday consisted of a trip to the Minnesota State Fair, and consuming all the carbs, followed up by a family get together at my parents which included some more carbs and beer. Tonight is my fantasy draft which will include less than clean eating. Hoping to just maintain this week and not backslide.
belljr
Footballguy
For serious, stick to wings if possible. Make sure they are not crappy breaded
Junk food that is "keto friendly". This is my go to crap food craving
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Normally, the host buys a bunch of food with the left over money from the previous year. This year he didn't have time, so he is just ordering pizzas. I of course can bring my own food. But, I also know after just a piece or two I'll be full, so I know I can't go too overboard.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
yeah, my teeth are all shiny and pearly, doing keto. hidden benefitChainsawU said:
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Day 1 - 195
Week 9 - 178.5
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Weekly Loss - 1.0 Loss
Loss to Date - 18.0
Last Four Week Trend - 0.5 lb loss
Despite my fantasy draft, and a second cheat meal, cheat snacks, and a week long struggle of a poorly stocked kitchen, I managed another 1 lb loss. This kept the 4 week trend continuing in the right direction, even if just slightly.
Week 9 - 178.5
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Weekly Loss - 1.0 Loss
Loss to Date - 18.0
Last Four Week Trend - 0.5 lb loss
Despite my fantasy draft, and a second cheat meal, cheat snacks, and a week long struggle of a poorly stocked kitchen, I managed another 1 lb loss. This kept the 4 week trend continuing in the right direction, even if just slightly.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Just quoting you because you quoted me and I wanted to update, with a comment. It took me a little longer than I wanted, and I was only ketogenic about ten days give or take. But the weight came off easily. I was 216. I am 192 this morning and have been for a week.. I feel great.
You sound like me.
Every October I have to do a health screening for my company-provided health insurance. There are three health targets that if met, I get a $50 discount per target per month. So there is a significant $$ incentive to meet these health targets. 1) is to simply do the health screening. 2) is to test negative for nicotine. And 3) is to be <= 27.5 BMI. Obviously the first two are easy. It's the BMI that always gives me trouble.
Last year I went from ~215 lbs down to 192 lbs in roughly 6 weeks by strict dieting/starvation/exercise. I didn't meet the BMI target. My BMI was 28.1, but there is an additional waist measurement clause for those with larger body frames. (Not saying I am a bodybuilder, but low-body-fat-% bodybuilders would never make the ideal BMI indices due to such large frames.) Luckily my waist measurement was small enough to meet this requirement, and I achieved all three targets last year. I am ahead of schedule this year. Got back from a month in Italy at the end of July. Weighed in at around 215 lbs again. Started Keto and am now already down to ~205. So I have about 6-7 weeks to lose another 15-20 lbs to reach my goal of 185-190 lbs.
Come September, I will be doing more crash dieting and strict calorie restriction to drop more weight. And then once I do my health screening in October, I'm sure that I will revert back to my ####ty and otherwise unhealthy lifestyle.
I dropped 100 pounds over a decade ago, from 300 to 200. I go up and down annually... if i see 215 I get serious, like this year. BUT. Not bragging. In fact a little sad how much some of you struggle with this. It's easy guys. Man up. Sweets are for girls. Food is just fuel and you never need a full tank. You run better on a half tank. A second alcoholic beverage is counterproductive to everything in life. Booze is for fools. I won't have the first anymore. Gawd I love being the sober guy. Good luck, MEN. Get lean. Fat is ugly and deadly.
cosjobs
Footballguy
My name is Cosjobs and I am a fat ###.
After 50 years, I quit smoking six weeks ago. I have gained 20# in that time.
Add on the 15 I gained since last challenge and now my fat is fat.
It's been 1 1/2 days since I've enjoyed bread or sugar or beer. Do I get a chip or something?
After 50 years, I quit smoking six weeks ago. I have gained 20# in that time.
Add on the 15 I gained since last challenge and now my fat is fat.
It's been 1 1/2 days since I've enjoyed bread or sugar or beer. Do I get a chip or something?
cosjobs
Footballguy
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
No I’ve fully embraced being a fat, lazy and drinking too much
also especially not during football season
Otis
Footballguy
I’m really struggling to come up with something that motivates me these days. Mrs O hates when I do keto—she believes it’s not heart healthy—but I figure there’s a way to do it without really letting on (I can just basically tell her I’m avoiding carbs and sugar for a while).
Maybe I’ll give this a shot. Silent Keto.
Maybe I’ll give this a shot. Silent Keto.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Chips aren't allowed either, unless they are cheese chips.cosjobs said:
John Bender
Footballguy
Order some Wisps (they even sell them at airports now) dip them in the hottest ####### salsa ever.
Softballguy
Footballguy
That's my secret weapon; eat something with a salsa as hot as the sun. It'll keep you occupied enough until you don't feel like eating anymore, but you'll only be able to have like five bites.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Wisps are OK. I prefer to substitute pork rinds for my chip craving, though they are not as versatile. I did make some pork rind nachos with shredded cheese melted in the oven. Then topping with sour cream, guac, salsa. Good stuff.
culdeus
Footballguy
Nugget
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Day 1 - 195
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Weekly Loss - 0.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 18.5
Last Four Week Trend - 3.5 lb loss
Progress being made after a plateau. No complaints about what I had to eat this week, and surprised to lose any weight at all. Had my favorite pizza place twice (they make a Keto crust), Keto ice cream from the local Keto bakery. No real cheats, just keto treats until last night. My boys are playing fall baseball, and we had an unseasonal 80 degree day I spent 8 hours in yesterday. Went out to eat with my parents afterwards and had two big beers with my salad because I was thirsty.
Week 10 - 180
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Weekly Loss - 0.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 18.5
Last Four Week Trend - 3.5 lb loss
Progress being made after a plateau. No complaints about what I had to eat this week, and surprised to lose any weight at all. Had my favorite pizza place twice (they make a Keto crust), Keto ice cream from the local Keto bakery. No real cheats, just keto treats until last night. My boys are playing fall baseball, and we had an unseasonal 80 degree day I spent 8 hours in yesterday. Went out to eat with my parents afterwards and had two big beers with my salad because I was thirsty.
cosjobs
Footballguy
10 day checkin, minus 7 lbs.
I'm having a hard time getting into and staying in ketosis.
I've tried some Keto Drive, but it doesn't seem to help and is really expensive.
Seems to me, either the older I get, or the more times I've done a keto diet, the harder it is for me to get into Ketosis next time.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
10 days seven pounds, good job. Surely you're dropping water. Have you experienced low carb flu symptoms? They indicate glycogen depletion and the switch to ketosis. They can be fatigue, headache, nothing serious.
You may be high on protein low on fat. Gluconeogenesis comes before ketogenesis. Too much protein can stall the process. This is why I fast my way into deep ketosis and then start low carbing. Depleting glycogen is different for every liver but the research indicates a 40-50 hour fast works for everyone. Exercise speeds it up. Debauchery and laziness slows it down.
pretty current state of the keto union nerd reading
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Day 1 - 195
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Week 15 - 173
Weekly Loss - 3.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 22.0
Last Four Week Trend - 5.5 lb loss
Feel very suspicious in this weigh in. I believe I am in need of a new scale. My wife weighed in over the weekend and said she didn't think her first weight was right. Stepped off and stepped on again and got a different weight. Stepped off and on again and got a third weight. Stepped off and on again and the third weight repeated so she stuck with that. I weighed myself twice and they were both 173, but I didn't really do anything different this week, and cheated last night. Optimistic me says maybe I broke through a plateau but I'm not really an optimist so I'm guessing I will weigh in higher next week.
Week 11 - 178.5
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Week 15 - 173
Weekly Loss - 3.5 Loss
Loss to Date - 22.0
Last Four Week Trend - 5.5 lb loss
Feel very suspicious in this weigh in. I believe I am in need of a new scale. My wife weighed in over the weekend and said she didn't think her first weight was right. Stepped off and stepped on again and got a different weight. Stepped off and on again and got a third weight. Stepped off and on again and the third weight repeated so she stuck with that. I weighed myself twice and they were both 173, but I didn't really do anything different this week, and cheated last night. Optimistic me says maybe I broke through a plateau but I'm not really an optimist so I'm guessing I will weigh in higher next week.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Day 1 - 195
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Week 15 - 173
Week 16 - 177.3
Weekly Loss - 4.3 Gain
Loss to Date - 17.7
Last Four Week Trend - 0.7 lb loss
Got a new scale this week as the last one wasn't measuring consistently anymore. At least part of this gain is due to that. Also probably not in ketosis as my diet hasn't really been on point. Haven't been doing a good job of keeping the house stocked, but we did a good grocery run this week so back to it.
Week 12 - 178
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Week 15 - 173
Week 16 - 177.3
Weekly Loss - 4.3 Gain
Loss to Date - 17.7
Last Four Week Trend - 0.7 lb loss
Got a new scale this week as the last one wasn't measuring consistently anymore. At least part of this gain is due to that. Also probably not in ketosis as my diet hasn't really been on point. Haven't been doing a good job of keeping the house stocked, but we did a good grocery run this week so back to it.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Day 1 - 195
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Week 15 - 173
Week 16 - 177.3
Week 17 - 176.4
Weekly Loss - 0.9 Gain
Loss to Date - 18.6
Last Four Week Trend - 0.6 lb loss
Can't really claim to be eating Keto at this point. Two or three days eating well, then a cheat meal here. Rinse and repeat. Totally off the wagon this weekend, so I expect a bump this week. Just checking in to keep the streak going.
Week 13 - 177
Week 14 - 176.5
Week 15 - 173
Week 16 - 177.3
Week 17 - 176.4
Weekly Loss - 0.9 Gain
Loss to Date - 18.6
Last Four Week Trend - 0.6 lb loss
Can't really claim to be eating Keto at this point. Two or three days eating well, then a cheat meal here. Rinse and repeat. Totally off the wagon this weekend, so I expect a bump this week. Just checking in to keep the streak going.
cosjobs
Footballguy
I've been piddling around, staying just out of ketosis and flatlining pounds.
What you say about fasting to kick start seems like a plan, but its taken me a few weeks to psych myself up for a fast. I only have grassfed bone broth (2c) Heavy cream (1/4c), better than bouillon beef base (1t), Picapeppa (1t)and small handful of greens- spinach, basil, collards. Not technically a fast, but I'm thinking it will work and I can stay on it a few days. Today went well.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Like CC, I’ve started rounds of Keto with a fast. Just easiest thing to me to get it going but definitely not for everyone. Do what works for you. Good luck cos!
pack100
Footballguy
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Been off plan for most of the month. Was doing OK maintaining for the most part, eating low carb breakfast and lunch, and then doing whatever the family was having for supper. The last couple of weeks (last week in particular) were very stressful at work so I went 100% off the wagon, including eating total crap for lunch and fast food weekends. Two things happened over the weekend; went pas t my "stop gap" weight of 180, and finally decided I was sick and tired of feeling sick to my stomach and gassy all the time. Back on the plan as of today.
Weighed in this morning at 182.3. Here we go.
Weighed in this morning at 182.3. Here we go.
ChainsawU
Footballguy
After dedicating a lot of resources, decided it isn't for me. Just saw The Game Changers on Netflix too, after doing a search for "Arnold Schwarzenegger," and this thread entered my mind among my first couple reaction thoughts. Honestly, if I'd only seen the movie - and nothing else - I'd not have been affected by it. But, just to be blunt about it, I been seeing a direct correlation between morning wood and eating plant-based the day before. The timing of everything hit me almost perfectly and kind of produced an "epiphany" day for me right now. Looking forward to experimenting further and figuring more out.
