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2017 ABLC League Thread

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Waiting on a defense is a decent strategy in the other Anarchy Leagues as it probably won't hurt that much. In this one, however, it could be a team killer if you get stuck with a really dreg of a defense. At least in the other leagues, you are guaranteed positive points. The difference from the #1 to #2 defense in those leagues was 118 points last year. In ABLC, that range was 174 points in 2016 and 233 the year before. The 3 prior years were 187, 227, and 212.

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Stinkin Ref 2016.....18 hole

Chiefs, Kansas City KCC TMQB    308.56    
Jennings, Rashad NYG RB    142.70    
Woodhead, Danny SDC RB (Q)    27.10    
Marshall, Brandon NYJ WR (Q)    155.80    
Pryor, Terrelle CLE WR (Q)    213.44    
Watkins, Sammy BUF WR (Q)    83.00    
Williams, Tyrell SDC WR    216.90    
Higbee, Tyler RAM TE    25.50    
Folk, Nick NYJ PK    113.20    
Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def 103.00

I actually liked this team a lot heading into last year...but finished 25th..and just over 500 points behind Mr. I.....had Woodhead not got hurt in week 2 and Watkins just post some kind of  decent number and Marshall lived up to his 2015 numbers.....yada yada yada....I could have been on to something as I had a couple nice hits with Pryor and Williams...Higbee obviously drug this team down as well....so looking back, what did I learn...well you gotta stay healthy, mostly....but you also need some point coverage....KCTMQB you would have thought had a decent year with an extra game and all, but still finished as QB21....I drafted them as QB18...so sniffing distance....but Mr I dusted me by over 220 points at the position by taking ATLQB at QB23....which is more than any one player on my team scored....so it was almost like he had an extra player compared to me....and a really good one at that....he won with averaging about 189 points for every roster spot...GB and ATL SMOKED every other TMQB outside of NE and that wouldn't have been close had NE not made the post season....so Mr. I maybe hit the longest ROI HR in the history of fantasy football (at least in a league like this).....that pick in and of itself, covered any warts he had on his roster....don't get me wrong, he had a nice overall draft, but that pick was a league changer.....so I think you need a little of that too...

 

STINKIN' REF 2017....22 hole

1-Falcons, Atlanta ATL TMQB

9-Henderson, De'Angelo DEN RB  
7-Lewis, Dion NEP RB   
3-Woodhead, Danny BAL RB


4-Garcon, Pierre SFO WR    
6-Golladay, Kenny DET WR    
2-Pryor, Terrelle WAS WR

5-Fiedorowicz, C.J. HOU TE 


10-Gonzalez, Zane CLE PK   
8-Raiders, Oakland OAK Def

so decided I wanted to chase some of those 500 points even though I wouldn't get nearly the value that ATLQB provided last year...will need the 500 and some playoff games ...figured it was a decent place to start and then just see what I could piece together...initial plan did not include 3 RB's...Bass talked me in to taking Lewis, sorry brother....and Henderson was my late hope for a 3 run homer...not very eye popping at WR, but Garcon is probably a little underrated....drank the kool aid on Golladay and hoping he turns into this years Pryor or Williams...might have the most unsexy TE in the league but he should finish middle of the pack....don't think OK D is really that good, but people have them plugged in for the playoffs (personally I don't think they make it)....and should at least get some sacks and with Patterson returning kicks, maybe he houses a couple...have no idea if Gonzalez wins the job in CLE so my "move" may be wasted here....I know there was some discussion about taking PK's in this league and I'm not sure where I stand on that....yeah you can wait until your last pick and take a guy (like I did) and then replace him with your "move" if you drafted wrong....but it also kind of sucks to have to use your "move" on a PK instead of a week 1 breakout guy that could help you elsewhere or cover an injury or something to a another position...and kickers don't usually get hurt....good luck, always enjoy this format.....:banned:

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26 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

Waiting on a defense is a decent strategy in the other Anarchy Leagues as it probably won't hurt that much. In this one, however, it could be a team killer if you get stuck with a really dreg of a defense. At least in the other leagues, you are guaranteed positive points. The difference from the #1 to #2 defense in those leagues was 118 points last year. In ABLC, that range was 174 points in 2016 and 233 the year before. The 3 prior years were 187, 227, and 212.

Yeah I guess we shall see just how bad Washington can be.

I likely could have addressed this sooner and I was looking at Tampa Bay who I think I could have taken over Treadwell or Boyd where I did. Possible those two WR or someone else suitable could have been that pick instead if I did draft the Bucs defense earlier.

I guess we will have to see how that turns out. Washington had 64 poins and was 27th overall last year. Their defense was very bad. I suppose it is possible they are worse than that this year. A lot of us seem to think so based on the draft results.

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46 - Steelers PIT TMQB8 . . . Ranked 5th in 2016
PIT offense should be more explosive once Bryant gets reinstated and should be in line for playoff points. IMO, Top 5 with upside this year.

83 - Mark Ingram NOS RB22 . . . Ranked 9th in 2016
I am not sure how much ADP has left in the tank, if he can stay healthy, and what that means to Ingram's role. Not many reliable RB's were left by this point.

275 - Charles Sims TBB RB67 . . . Ranked RB21 in 2015
Sims appears to have fallen off the radar and I am not 100% sure why. He had 180 points in his format two years ago with over 1,000 YFS and 50+ catches.

19 - T.Y. Hilton IND WR10 . . .  Ranked WR9 in 2016
Well, at the time, Luck seemingly was looking ready to come back, I thought the Colts had an outside shot at a playoff berth, and Hilton looked like a safe pick. Now, not so much.

110 - Eric Decker TEN WR45 . . . Ranked WR16 in 2015
I still think Decker gets more targets, yardage, and usage than he is getting projected for. Might get a playoff game or two as well. Could end up ranked in the 20's.

211 - Anquan Boldin BUF WR72 . . . Ranked WR47 in 2016
He looked liked a decent pick . . . before he retired. Was in line to start and get a lot of targets. Better now then mid-season as I can replace him.

238 - Terrance Williams DAL WR79 . . . Ranked WR61 in 2016
He ranked in the 40's the year before. Probably will get a few playoff points. If Zeke actually has to sit out, maybe there are a few more receiving points to go around.

302 - Tyler Higbee LAR TE37 . . . Ranked TE65 in 2016
Went as early as 142, 159, and 172 in the regular Anarchy drafts. Getting talked up as the west coast Jordan Reed. Great, so he'll miss a ton of games. Just what I needed.

174 - Matt Bryant ATL PK4 . . . Ranked PK1 in 2016
The Falcons might not score 648 points again this year (that is a CRAZY number), but Bryant should still get a lot of scoring opportunities.

147 - Seahawks SEA DEF2 . . . Ranked DEF9 in 2016
Probably too early, as they only scored 138 points last year. But they scored 214, 220, 279, and 217 the years before that. Maybe they bounce back some this year and again should make a playoff run.

Overall, I think I have pieces of 6 playoff teams (PIT, TBB, TEN, DAL, ATL, SEA). Will have to find a flex in the player swap. Would have been much more of an issue if I had waited and got a camp battle kicker that lost his job. Don't love this team, don't hate this team. Will stand a chance of competing if ADP is a dud, Sims goes back to being a receiving back, and Higbee gets a lot of targets.

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So far for flex

 

11 RB, 8 WR, 3 TE with 10 undecided 

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8 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

46 - Steelers PIT TMQB8 . . . Ranked 5th in 2016
PIT offense should be more explosive once Bryant gets reinstated and should be in line for playoff points. IMO, Top 5 with upside this year.

83 - Mark Ingram NOS RB22 . . . Ranked 9th in 2016
I am not sure how much ADP has left in the tank, if he can stay healthy, and what that means to Ingram's role. Not many reliable RB's were left by this point.

275 - Charles Sims TBB RB67 . . . Ranked RB21 in 2015
Sims appears to have fallen off the radar and I am not 100% sure why. He had 180 points in his format two years ago with over 1,000 YFS and 50+ catches.

19 - T.Y. Hilton IND WR10 . . .  Ranked WR9 in 2016
Well, at the time, Luck seemingly was looking ready to come back, I thought the Colts had an outside shot at a playoff berth, and Hilton looked like a safe pick. Now, not so much.

110 - Eric Decker TEN WR45 . . . Ranked WR16 in 2015
I still think Decker gets more targets, yardage, and usage than he is getting projected for. Might get a playoff game or two as well. Could end up ranked in the 20's.

211 - Anquan Boldin BUF WR72 . . . Ranked WR47 in 2016
He looked liked a decent pick . . . before he retired. Was in line to start and get a lot of targets. Better now then mid-season as I can replace him.

238 - Terrance Williams DAL WR79 . . . Ranked WR61 in 2016
He ranked in the 40's the year before. Probably will get a few playoff points. If Zeke actually has to sit out, maybe there are a few more receiving points to go around.

302 - Tyler Higbee LAR TE37 . . . Ranked TE65 in 2016
Went as early as 142, 159, and 172 in the regular Anarchy drafts. Getting talked up as the west coast Jordan Reed. Great, so he'll miss a ton of games. Just what I needed.

174 - Matt Bryant ATL PK4 . . . Ranked PK1 in 2016
The Falcons might not score 648 points again this year (that is a CRAZY number), but Bryant should still get a lot of scoring opportunities.

147 - Seahawks SEA DEF2 . . . Ranked DEF9 in 2016
Probably too early, as they only scored 138 points last year. But they scored 214, 220, 279, and 217 the years before that. Maybe they bounce back some this year and again should make a playoff run.

Overall, I think I have pieces of 6 playoff teams (PIT, TBB, TEN, DAL, ATL, SEA). Will have to find a flex in the player swap. Would have been much more of an issue if I had waited and got a camp battle kicker that lost his job. Don't love this team, don't hate this team. Will stand a chance of competing if ADP is a dud, Sims goes back to being a receiving back, and Higbee gets a lot of targets.

Charles SIms is an interesting player and did score some good points in 2015 as you mention. I think Martin and Rodgers may prevent Sims from having much opportunity but I generally think Sims is a better bet than McNichols but maybe not. Similar players in my view.

Tough break with Boldin. Seemed like a brilliant move to me at the time, wished I had taken him. Oops.

Who has been talking about Higbee as west coast Jordan Reed? I am pretty sure Gerald Everett deserves that comparison a bit more than Higbee does, but who knows? Cooper Kupp may make both not very good choices.

I think you have a solid kicker and defense and the QB should be good as well. Otherwise you have Hilton which should be good if Luck is back soon, not so good if not.

I dunno about this squad. Good luck.

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10 minutes ago, Crippler said:

So far for flex

 

11 RB, 8 WR, 3 TE with 10 undecided 

I am surprised with more picks at RB than WR. 

Late round WR seems like where the value is to me. RB were already very picked over before teams added a 3rd guy.

I suppose getting in there before the week one picks ups?

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49 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

So you are against Cook because of combine metrics?

A defensive minded coach is generally a good thing for a RB to have, game scripts tend to be more favorable if the defense is good.

The offensive line might only suck instead of being abyss level.

Wouldn't points two and three also negatively impact the back up RB you drafted? To me that negates those arguments and all you are left with is hating Cook for his combine scores.

Bad bet. I like the rest of your draft a bit better than this part of it. You need to hope Murray gets goal line carries because he isn't going to be doing much else. Zimmer and Shurmur have both said Cook is capable of all roles. Goal line opportunity for Murray is just pure speculation, not based on anything the coaches have said.

Ha! I had a private bet with myself on the O/U of posts before you jumped in on Cook at 2.5. I oughta be a bookie :lol:

I know you're big on Cook and I don't hate him - I don't hate any of the four from a long-term perspective and in my only keeper league I'll draft whichever fall(s) to me - but I think he's being overdrafted relative to his situation in redraft. Yes, his measurables have something to do with that assessment, as does the quality of the OL (which will have a larger negative impact on a back like Cook, who needs space to operate, than on a straight-ahead guy like Murray).

The 'favorable game script' argument is overblown; David and others have posted studies concluding that more valuable fantasy RBs tend to correlate pretty well with higher-scoring offenses. I don't believe Minnesota is going to be in many 35-31 games this year.

Ultimately, I think Murray has more talent than many other presumptive backups. Perhaps - in fact probably - not as much as Cook; but if you're going to take the other side of a bet, history has shown you can do worse than betting against a rookie.

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3 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

Who has been talking about Higbee as west coast Jordan Reed? I am pretty sure Gerald Everett deserves that comparison a bit more than Higbee does, but who knows?

A saw a couple of articles where Reed was brought up . . . mostly due to the Sean McVay / Matt LeFleur Redskins connection. He's 6'6", 250. Has been said to been uncoverable in the red zone, a standout in camp, and playing with the starters. Saw comments from the coaching staff saying he would play a big role this year / on the field a lot / blah blah blah. Probably just coach speak, but it sounds like he will start the season as the TE getting the most snaps. I don't think he will be Reed, but I am hopeful he is worth more than the TE37 spot I picked him at.

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I've been hearing these overdraftred arguments a lot recently.

I have almost completely ignored ADP this year so such arguments don't really make much sense to me.

The player is going to be worth what they are worth. Thats it. How good our guesses are in regards to that doesn't really change because of what everyone else thinks (ADP).

As a Vikings fan I hope Murray ends up being worth drafting. As a Vikings fan, I don't think Murray was worth drafting. Hows that? :P

Total points as correlated with rushing TDs makes a lot of sense I think. The game script argument not really applicable to RB who are good receivers anyways. It is the guys like Peterson and Morris that get killed by bad defense and being behind in the score, not guys who can catch the ball.

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1 minute ago, Anarchy99 said:

A saw a couple of articles where Reed was brought up . . . mostly due to the Sean McVay / Matt LeFleur Redskins connection. He's 6'6", 250. Has been said to been uncoverable in the red zone, a standout in camp, and playing with the starters. Saw comments from the coaching staff saying he would play a big role this year / on the field a lot / blah blah blah. Probably just coach speak, but it sounds like he will start the season as the TE getting the most snaps. I don't think he will be Reed, but I am hopeful he is worth more than the TE37 spot I picked him at.

I see.

If that is the case then Everett will be a wasted pick, although he likely already was because rookie and TE do not go well together most of the time.

I haven't spent much time reading about the Rams in years. Although it is likely more tolerable now that the coaches have changed.

If Higbee was all that though... why did they use their first pick on Everett?

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1 minute ago, Biabreakable said:

I see.

If that is the case then Everett will be a wasted pick, although he likely already was because rookie and TE do not go well together most of the time.

I haven't spent much time reading about the Rams in years. Although it is likely more tolerable now that the coaches have changed.

If Higbee was all that though... why did they use their first pick on Everett?

It sounds like they want to implement a two TE system and Everett (like 99% of rookies) has been just trying to get acclimated to the NFL. IIRC, he went to a small school (South Alabama?) and apparently sometimes the learning curve is tougher coming from those types of programs. I would guess Higbee has done better than they expected and is a lot harder to cover than they were prepared for. And I think Everett hasn't exactly absorbed the offense and what they want him to do so far. For now, I don't think either one is very proficient at blocking. As far as my selection of Higbee goes, if he is half of Reed for just this year, I would be happy based on getting him 300+ picks in to the draft.

It sounds like Higbee will start the season getting more reps. Whether he does anything with them, whether they try to get him the ball, and whether they start using Everett more are all unknowns past Week 1.

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1 hour ago, Biabreakable said:

1.28    28.    Biabreakable    Saints, New Orleans NOS TMQB
2.05    37.    Biabreakable    Watkins, Sammy LAR WR    
3.28    92.    Biabreakable    Parker, DeVante MIA WR    
4.05    101.    Biabreakable    Henry, Hunter LAC TE    
5.28    156.    Biabreakable    Foreman, D'Onta HOU RB        
6.05    165.    Biabreakable    Crosby, Mason GBP PK    
7.28    220.    Biabreakable    Kamara, Alvin NOS RB    
8.05    229.    Biabreakable    Treadwell, Laquon MIN WR    
9.28    284.    Biabreakable    Boyd, Tyler CIN WR    
10.05    293.    Biabreakable    Redskins, Washington WAS Def

Probably my favorite team of those posted so far. Brees gives you a solid floor almost all by himself and each of your next three picks have genuine stud upside, especially Henry, who I want all the shares of this season.

Second-year post-hype sleepers are some of my favorite picks in these formats and both Treadwell and Boyd were stupid value where you snagged them. Kamara and Foreman are a good pairing in this format, kind of like my WRs - if you hit one on one of the two you're probably ahead on your draft capital invested.

Not a huge amount of playoff potential and that might be what ultimately brings you up short, but IMO you did great work here.

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1.16 16.There It IsThomas, Michael NOS WR

 

2.17 49.There It IsJeffery, Alshon PHI WR

 

3.16 80.There It IsRudolph, Kyle MIN TE

 

4.17 113.There It IsGore, Frank IND RB

 

5.16 144.There It IsSanu, Mohamed ATL WR

 

6.17 177.There It IsDolphins, Miami MIA TMQB 7

 

7.16 208.There It IsSturgis, Caleb PHI PK

 

8.17 241.There It IsChargers, Los Angeles LAC Def

 

9.16 272.There It IsPumphrey, Donnel PHI RBMon 

 

10.17 305.There It IsSmith-Schuster, JuJu PIT WRWed 

I finally tried the WR PRR approach first. This is what was left  I took highest points first.

Until Gore. I believe he will be consistent in this... his HOF bid year.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

Probably my favorite team of those posted so far. Brees gives you a solid floor almost all by himself and each of your next three picks have genuine stud upside, especially Henry, who I want all the shares of this season.

Second-year post-hype sleepers are some of my favorite picks in these formats and both Treadwell and Boyd were stupid value where you snagged them. Kamara and Foreman are a good pairing in this format, kind of like my WRs - if you hit one on one of the two you're probably ahead on your draft capital invested.

Not a huge amount of playoff potential and that might be what ultimately brings you up short, but IMO you did great work here.

LOL. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not a huge fan of Watkins, Parker, Hunter, Foreman, Kamara, Treadwell, or Boyd and think waiting so long on a defense was a mistake. IMO, Watkins always an injury risk and went to an offense even worse than BUF, Parker has been more hype than production, Gates still a way bigger piece of the TE pie for LAC, Foreman to me is just a back up (so not worth more than other back ups), who knows what role Kamara will serve and the Saints have multiple backs, Treadwell in the mix but not a starter in MIN, Boyd the WR4 on a team with a top TE.

All that shows is that Bia picked different players than I would, and my tea leaves point in a different direction than his tea leaves. The other thing that I would say for this team is there were little track record to go on in terms of player performance. In short, not many guys have produced in the past to be able to have certain performance expectations (other than Brees).

But that's what makes these leagues fun and interesting. Trying to crack the code and come up with a total scoring solution better than the next guy.

 

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I like Anarchy's analysis format, so I'll steal it.  Got a few playoff guys here, so think it's a decent team, though unlikely a great one.

219 - LA Rams TMQB29 . . . Ranked TMBQ32 in 2016

Waited late for a QB, and think that the Rams passing situation shows more upside than the others that were left (Chi, Cle, NYJ), given the coaching and the new receivers.

91 - Duke Johnson CLE RB29 . . . Ranked RB31 in 2016

With the reception volume potential, seemed a reasonable pick after I went WR/WR first two rounds.

102 - Terrence West BAL RB31 . . .  Ranked RB24 in 2016

Liked him being there when I took him, not so much later when I saw Buck Allen run better than him with the first teamers in the second preseason game.  Thought about stacking Allen as my flex, but think that’s more of playing for 5th than for 1st strategy.

27 - Michael Crabtree OAK WR14 . . . Ranked WR13 in 2016

Is becoming the healthier of the Oakland WRs, and has playoff potential.

38 - Tyreek Hill KCC WR17  . . .  Ranked WR25 in 2016

Decided to buy into the hype, and the Alex Smith downfield hope, given the playoff potential.

230 - Chris Hogan NEP WR75 . . . Ranked WR37 in 2016

I understand the drop due to the Cooks hype and Gronk’s return, but with the January games he seemed like a no-brainer WR3 at this point, and well worth kicking the kicker can down for road for.

283 - Kendell Wright CHI WR93 . . .  Ranked WR83 in 2016

I went in thinking that, having the 6th free agent pick, I’d take flex last, but the five teams after me had taken a kicker already, so no use waiting on a flex.  Considered Boyd here, but I had just grabbed him at the end of a deep auction the day before.  Dodds seems quite high on Wright, likely because of the playing opportunity and weak TE situation with the Bears.

155 - Cameron Brate TBB TE25 . . . Ranked TE8 in 2016

It looks like people are slowly realizing that Howard will not be an immediate impact player in fantasy, but are sleeping somewhat on what that means for Brate.  The rookie TE are going too high, meaning there is value to be had in waiting for guys like Cook, Clay, and Brate.

166 - Broncos DEN DEF3 . . .  Ranked DEF4 in 2016

Add me to those surprised defenses went so late, particularly as compared to past years. Knowing that, I might have gone QB earlier and waited on a defense.

294 - Connor Barth CHI PK31 . .   Ranked PK29 in 2016

Seems likely to hold off Aguayo, but if not I’ll be able to grab a replacement.

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59 minutes ago, Go DC Yourself said:

I like Anarchy's analysis format, so I'll steal it.  Got a few playoff guys here, so think it's a decent team, though unlikely a great one.

219 - LA Rams TMQB29 . . . Ranked TMBQ32 in 2016

Waited late for a QB, and think that the Rams passing situation shows more upside than the others that were left (Chi, Cle, NYJ), given the coaching and the new receivers.

91 - Duke Johnson CLE RB29 . . . Ranked RB31 in 2016

With the reception volume potential, seemed a reasonable pick after I went WR/WR first two rounds.

102 - Terrence West BAL RB31 . . .  Ranked RB24 in 2016

Liked him being there when I took him, not so much later when I saw Buck Allen run better than him with the first teamers in the second preseason game.  Thought about stacking Allen as my flex, but think that’s more of playing for 5th than for 1st strategy.

27 - Michael Crabtree OAK WR14 . . . Ranked WR13 in 2016

Is becoming the healthier of the Oakland WRs, and has playoff potential.

38 - Tyreek Hill KCC WR17  . . .  Ranked WR25 in 2016

Decided to buy into the hype, and the Alex Smith downfield hope, given the playoff potential.

230 - Chris Hogan NEP WR75 . . . Ranked WR37 in 2016

I understand the drop due to the Cooks hype and Gronk’s return, but with the January games he seemed like a no-brainer WR3 at this point, and well worth kicking the kicker can down for road for.

283 - Kendell Wright CHI WR93 . . .  Ranked WR83 in 2016

I went in thinking that, having the 6th free agent pick, I’d take flex last, but the five teams after me had taken a kicker already, so no use waiting on a flex.  Considered Boyd here, but I had just grabbed him at the end of a deep auction the day before.  Dodds seems quite high on Wright, likely because of the playing opportunity and weak TE situation with the Bears.

155 - Cameron Brate TBB TE25 . . . Ranked TE8 in 2016

It looks like people are slowly realizing that Howard will not be an immediate impact player in fantasy, but are sleeping somewhat on what that means for Brate.  The rookie TE are going too high, meaning there is value to be had in waiting for guys like Cook, Clay, and Brate.

166 - Broncos DEN DEF3 . . .  Ranked DEF4 in 2016

Add me to those surprised defenses went so late, particularly as compared to past years. Knowing that, I might have gone QB earlier and waited on a defense.

294 - Connor Barth CHI PK31 . .   Ranked PK29 in 2016

Seems likely to hold off Aguayo, but if not I’ll be able to grab a replacement.

I like that all of your players will be producing points.

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Sorry all.  Pick is in though.  Busy few days...

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32 - Panthers, Carolina CAR TMQB7... Ranked QB26 in  2016

33 - Murray, DeMarco TEN RB10... Ranked RB6 in 2016

96 - Martin, Doug TBB RB31... Ranked RB26 in 2016

288 - Booker, Devontae DEN RB69... Ranked RB34 in 2016

97 - Maclin, Jeremy BAL WR37... Ranked WR71 in 2016

160 - Stills, Kenny MIA WR62... Ranked WR43 in 2016

161 - Gabriel, Taylor ATL WR63... Ranked WR50 in 2016

289 - Gresham, Jermaine ARI TE36... Ranked TE31 in 2016

224 - Dawson, Phil ARI PK17... Ranked PK23 in 2016

225 - Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def14... Ranked DEF11 in 2016

Lots of questions, not many answers with this rag tag bunch.  Always a fun draft.

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1 hour ago, BroncoFreak_2K3 said:

32 - Panthers, Carolina CAR TMQB7... Ranked QB26 in  2016

33 - Murray, DeMarco TEN RB10... Ranked RB6 in 2016

96 - Martin, Doug TBB RB31... Ranked RB262 in 2016

288 - Booker, Devontae DEN RB69... Ranked RB34 in 2016

97 - Maclin, Jeremy BAL WR37... Ranked WR71 in 2016

160 - Stills, Kenny MIA WR62... Ranked WR43 in 2016

161 - Gabriel, Taylor ATL WR63... Ranked WR50 in 2016

289 - Gresham, Jermaine ARI TE36... Ranked TE31 in 2016

224 - Dawson, Phil ARI PK17... Ranked PK23 in 2016

225 - Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def14... Ranked DEF11 in 2016

Lots of questions, not many answers with this rag tag bunch.  Always a fun draft.

Not even sure if that's scored in even this league.

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21 hours ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

Probably my favorite team of those posted so far. Brees gives you a solid floor almost all by himself and each of your next three picks have genuine stud upside, especially Henry, who I want all the shares of this season.

Second-year post-hype sleepers are some of my favorite picks in these formats and both Treadwell and Boyd were stupid value where you snagged them. Kamara and Foreman are a good pairing in this format, kind of like my WRs - if you hit one on one of the two you're probably ahead on your draft capital invested.

Not a huge amount of playoff potential and that might be what ultimately brings you up short, but IMO you did great work here.

At least I like all of these players although I am not all that excited about Boyd.

Bonus games from playoffs unlikely but some of them do have a shot such as the Bengals, Vikings, Chargers, Dolphins.

I don't see the Saints making the post season, but if they do that would be good for my team.

I wasn't trying to do this, but my teams often look good for dynasty. Lots of young ascending players.

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20 hours ago, There it is said:

 

1.16 16.There It IsThomas, Michael NOS WR

 

2.17 49.There It IsJeffery, Alshon PHI WR

 

3.16 80.There It IsRudolph, Kyle MIN TE

 

4.17 113.There It IsGore, Frank IND RB

 

5.16 144.There It IsSanu, Mohamed ATL WR

 

6.17 177.There It IsDolphins, Miami MIA TMQB 7

 

7.16 208.There It IsSturgis, Caleb PHI PK

 

8.17 241.There It IsChargers, Los Angeles LAC Def

 

9.16 272.There It IsPumphrey, Donnel PHI RBMon 

 

10.17 305.There It IsSmith-Schuster, JuJu PIT WRWed 

I finally tried the WR PRR approach first. This is what was left  I took highest points first.

Until Gore. I believe he will be consistent in this... his HOF bid year.

Comments.

This looks alright. My favorite pick is Pumphrey who i an interesting player for this format. Sproles likely keeps him from being relevant. Maybe a year early on this one. I really like his skills though. He is kind of useless without PPR scoring.

I wonder if Mr I's early drafting of TE sort of started a run at the position? Or caused people to draft TE a bit sooner? It is hard for me to get excited about Kyle Rudolph. I think there were some better players than him available at pick 80 overall, but going through the draft I see there were a lot of RB with blemishes drafted who are not players I really want. I am sure some of those will pan out, but lots of bust risk with these guys.

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3.1781.Maggot BrainBengals, Cincinnati CIN TMQBSun Aug 13 11:49:12 a.m. ET 2017

3.1882.freeannyongEifert, Tyler CIN TESun Aug 13 11:49:12 a.m. ET 2017Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.1983.Anarchy99Ingram, Mark NOS RBSun Aug 13 4:29:54 p.m. ET 2017

3.2084.rzrback77Ware, Spencer KCC RBSun Aug 13 5:29:45 p.m. ET 2017

3.2185.renesauzWalker, Delanie TEN TESun Aug 13 5:29:45 p.m. ET 2017Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.2286.Stinkin' RefWoodhead, Danny BAL RBSun Aug 13 11:49:36 p.m. ET 2017in this format, he is money when healthy....more confidence in him then any of the remaining backs... (Comments Added Tue Aug 15 9:54:09 a.m. ET 2017)

3.2387.CoordinatorPowell, Bilal NYJ RBSun Aug 13 11:52:39 p.m. ET 2017

3.2488.BassNBrewColeman, Tevin ATL RBMon Aug 14 1:05:37 a.m. ET 2017

3.2589.DuckboyGillislee, Mike NEP RBMon Aug 14 1:05:37 a.m. ET 2017Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.2690.BusManAnderson, C.J. DEN RBMon Aug 14 1:05:37 a.m. ET 2017Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.2791.Go DC YourselfJohnson, Duke CLE RBMon Aug 14 1:05:37 a.m. ET 2017Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.2892.BiabreakableParker, DeVante MIA WR

Heh. You should have drafted Parker. ;)

I love Gore and hope he has another good year in him. Mack did look very good in recent game however. Mack is a player I feel really hot and cold with. Some times I think he is great and other times I feel like he is really undisciplined. If he can learn from Gore and have some of that rub off on him Mack could turn out being really good.

The Sanu pick seems a bit high to me. I do think he is worthwhile, I just consider him in similar bucket as 50 other WR.

Chargers defense could wind up being really good this year. Getting rid of Teo is addition by subtraction.

I am not sure where Juju fits in with the Steelers this year. They have a lot of WR right now. if Bryant has issues or is out of the way I like his chances for opportunity a lot better then.

Some fringe playoff teams such as the Vikings, Chargers and Dolphins would help if they make it. Sanu seems like your best bet there. I am really not sure who wins the NFC south. Seems like all 4 of their teams have a decent shot of postseason.

 

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20 hours ago, Anarchy99 said:

LOL. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not a huge fan of Watkins, Parker, Hunter, Foreman, Kamara, Treadwell, or Boyd and think waiting so long on a defense was a mistake. IMO, Watkins always an injury risk and went to an offense even worse than BUF, Parker has been more hype than production, Gates still a way bigger piece of the TE pie for LAC, Foreman to me is just a back up (so not worth more than other back ups), who knows what role Kamara will serve and the Saints have multiple backs, Treadwell in the mix but not a starter in MIN, Boyd the WR4 on a team with a top TE.

All that shows is that Bia picked different players than I would, and my tea leaves point in a different direction than his tea leaves. The other thing that I would say for this team is there were little track record to go on in terms of player performance. In short, not many guys have produced in the past to be able to have certain performance expectations (other than Brees).

But that's what makes these leagues fun and interesting. Trying to crack the code and come up with a total scoring solution better than the next guy.

 

I think he was just trying to keep me from kicking his dog Murray some more. ;)

You are absolutely right that most of these players are unproven. Maybe doesn't help that I am drafting players from AFC East rivals who you likely view as punching bags.

I am always dynasty centric and looking towards the future. I think I drafted some pretty talented football players. Remains to be seen how well they can do in terms of numbers. All of them have shown promising signs as far as that goes though except the rookies and Treadwell. Its just a matter of putting that together for a full season now.

To be honest Treadwell may be a bust. I am a eternal optimist there though. I guess we will see.

As far as D'Onta Foreman I think you may as well get used to that name. I don't see him being a back up for long.

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20 hours ago, Go DC Yourself said:

I like Anarchy's analysis format, so I'll steal it.  Got a few playoff guys here, so think it's a decent team, though unlikely a great one.

219 - LA Rams TMQB29 . . . Ranked TMBQ32 in 2016

Waited late for a QB, and think that the Rams passing situation shows more upside than the others that were left (Chi, Cle, NYJ), given the coaching and the new receivers.

91 - Duke Johnson CLE RB29 . . . Ranked RB31 in 2016

With the reception volume potential, seemed a reasonable pick after I went WR/WR first two rounds.

102 - Terrence West BAL RB31 . . .  Ranked RB24 in 2016

Liked him being there when I took him, not so much later when I saw Buck Allen run better than him with the first teamers in the second preseason game.  Thought about stacking Allen as my flex, but think that’s more of playing for 5th than for 1st strategy.

27 - Michael Crabtree OAK WR14 . . . Ranked WR13 in 2016

Is becoming the healthier of the Oakland WRs, and has playoff potential.

38 - Tyreek Hill KCC WR17  . . .  Ranked WR25 in 2016

Decided to buy into the hype, and the Alex Smith downfield hope, given the playoff potential.

230 - Chris Hogan NEP WR75 . . . Ranked WR37 in 2016

I understand the drop due to the Cooks hype and Gronk’s return, but with the January games he seemed like a no-brainer WR3 at this point, and well worth kicking the kicker can down for road for.

283 - Kendell Wright CHI WR93 . . .  Ranked WR83 in 2016

I went in thinking that, having the 6th free agent pick, I’d take flex last, but the five teams after me had taken a kicker already, so no use waiting on a flex.  Considered Boyd here, but I had just grabbed him at the end of a deep auction the day before.  Dodds seems quite high on Wright, likely because of the playing opportunity and weak TE situation with the Bears.

155 - Cameron Brate TBB TE25 . . . Ranked TE8 in 2016

It looks like people are slowly realizing that Howard will not be an immediate impact player in fantasy, but are sleeping somewhat on what that means for Brate.  The rookie TE are going too high, meaning there is value to be had in waiting for guys like Cook, Clay, and Brate.

166 - Broncos DEN DEF3 . . .  Ranked DEF4 in 2016

Add me to those surprised defenses went so late, particularly as compared to past years. Knowing that, I might have gone QB earlier and waited on a defense.

294 - Connor Barth CHI PK31 . .   Ranked PK29 in 2016

Seems likely to hold off Aguayo, but if not I’ll be able to grab a replacement.

The Rams offense is actually kind of exciting now with Wakins and Kupp, Woods is decent and two TE who I think can contribute. No more excuses for Goff. Still a tough division to try to get a passing game going in.

I really like Duke Johnson. I think the coach has shown a tendency to prefer a bigger RB (Crowell and Hill recently) or I would be more optimistic. He could catch a lot of passes though and already has been doing that. Just needs to stay healthy.

I am not sure about West and that offensive line or the QBs health for that matter. The Ravens do seem to have a good defense though and that should help West. If Buck Allen actually plays a lot I think the Ravens are in more trouble than I already think. I guess Woodhead has a hamstring injury right now. If he is out that opens the door for Allen I guess. I'm really not a fan of Allen though.

Crabtree and Hill should be good performers. I still haven't seen enough of Hill to be sure about him, but all signs point towards him building on what he did last year.

Hogan seems lost in the depth chart now but injuries happen. He could do well again. Playoff potential high there.

I really like Kendell Wright and he seems to be ahead of Cruz and White for the Bears now. I have drafted him in some other leagues. Good to hear Dodds likes Wright as well. I wasn't sure if I was out in left field on this one or not. Sounds like I at least have some good company. Not sure if I prefer Wright or Boyd these two seem like close choices and I could see going either way.

I was reading recently that OJ Howard has a vision problem. That makes me really wonder about his potential as a receiver until that gets fixed. Should be good for Brate who has already beaten out one really good TE prospect in ASJ.

Broncos defense is still great. They need to get a bit better against the run, (they lost some key players there last year)  but excellent defense

I like this team quite a bit. No real holes anywhere.

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QB. Packers. Have huge advantage here once you get past top 9. Makes up a good player even

RB. Kareem Hunt, Shane Vereen Like what I have seen from Hunt. Can he be my Howard from last year. Vereen is just PPR pts. Should get me over 100

WR. Golden Tate, Josh Doctson, Bruce Ellington. I got steady in Tate. I need Doctson to step up. Think Ellington with all the Houston injuries could surprise. Not a great group but hope helps the cause

TE. Ertz. I.expect big things and end up with him everywhere. 

D/K. Atlanta/Janikowski. Playoff potential for both. I expect Atl D to take a step up. 

I hated the one spot. Seemed to miss tiers one way and have to reach a little going back. Overall some playoff chances and hope Hunt and a Doctson step up

 

also think DC team looks solid. Wright was my first choice at my last pick. 

Amazed that anyone would risk having bottom three QB. Maybe why I like DC team. He was able to wait and got a not bad QB. One that will improve. 

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14 hours ago, BroncoFreak_2K3 said:

32 - Panthers, Carolina CAR TMQB7... Ranked QB26 in  2016

33 - Murray, DeMarco TEN RB10... Ranked RB6 in 2016

96 - Martin, Doug TBB RB31... Ranked RB26 in 2016

288 - Booker, Devontae DEN RB69... Ranked RB34 in 2016

97 - Maclin, Jeremy BAL WR37... Ranked WR71 in 2016

160 - Stills, Kenny MIA WR62... Ranked WR43 in 2016

161 - Gabriel, Taylor ATL WR63... Ranked WR50 in 2016

289 - Gresham, Jermaine ARI TE36... Ranked TE31 in 2016

224 - Dawson, Phil ARI PK17... Ranked PK23 in 2016

225 - Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def14... Ranked DEF11 in 2016

Lots of questions, not many answers with this rag tag bunch.  Always a fun draft.

It will be interesting to see how Cam utilizes his new weapons McCaffrey and Samuels. This could be very good, its just a bit of an unknown right now.

I don't have a good feeling about Murray this year with Henry possibly taking over. He has been very good though and could be again.

Martin seems to be playing really well right now and great value for you to get him as late as you did.

I still think Booker can be a very good RB for the Broncos and from what I read about his wrist recently, it doesn't sound like he will miss many games because of that. Maybe similar to the games missed by Martin or less. Still has CJ Anderson ahead of him and maybe Jamal Charles? We should have some more information about Charles soon. I am doubtful Charles can return to form. Broncos fans seem to like Henderson a lot and don't like Booker.

Because of the the early RB picks you are value shopping at WR. I think Maclin was a good WR to start off with, he may be the best WR the Ravens have now.

Kenny Stills seems unlikely to score as many TD as last year, but he is a pretty good player and maybe matches his points from last year.

Gabriel found a good fit with the Falcons, competing with Sanu for opportunities. Some playoff potential.

Arians doesn't have much history of using the TE but Gresham has been a good TE before and did put up some numbers with the Cardinals last year with many of their other players hurt. Not bad for your second to last pick of the draft.

The Steelers haven't been a good defense for awhile but maybe they have improved this year. I still think the secondary is pretty questionable but Maybe Watt can make their LBers better than they have been. I haven't been a fan of several of the players they have drafted recently but they performed a lot better than I thought last year.

You have some good playoff potential from Cardinals, Steelers and Broncos and Falcons. Miami, Tampa and the Dolphins could also make it. So you have most of your players with a decent shot at extra games. This team seems solid to me although I have some questions about Murray. If he can repeat anywhere close to last season this team should be a contender I think.

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1 hour ago, Crippler said:

QB. Packers. Have huge advantage here once you get past top 9. Makes up a good player even

RB. Kareem Hunt, Shane Vereen Like what I have seen from Hunt. Can he be my Howard from last year. Vereen is just PPR pts. Should get me over 100

WR. Golden Tate, Josh Doctson, Bruce Ellington. I got steady in Tate. I need Doctson to step up. Think Ellington with all the Houston injuries could surprise. Not a great group but hope helps the cause

TE. Ertz. I.expect big things and end up with him everywhere. 

D/K. Atlanta/Janikowski. Playoff potential for both. I expect Atl D to take a step up. 

I hated the one spot. Seemed to miss tiers one way and have to reach a little going back. Overall some playoff chances and hope Hunt and a Doctson step up

 

also think DC team looks solid. Wright was my first choice at my last pick. 

Amazed that anyone would risk having bottom three QB. Maybe why I like DC team. He was able to wait and got a not bad QB. One that will improve. 

Although I hate the Packers hard to argue against Rodgers who has been great.

I love Hunt. Ware is a good player though. I hope Hunt can surpass him at some point this season. I have him on a lot of teams already. Vereen may end up doing more than you think if if Perkins/Darkwa/Gallman don't step up.

Golden Tate is solid. I really like Doctson but I have shied away from him due to the injuries. Would be happy to see him do well. Not sure about Bruce Ellington as I see the Texans running the ball with inexperienced QBs and I like Braxton Miller more than Ellington.

I have been hearing a lot of good things about Ertz who has done very well towards the end of the year but hasn't put it together for a whole season yet.

You have some players with playoff potential in Rodgers, Hunt, Atlanta and Seebass. Also the Texans seem the best bet from the AFC south. I'm really not sure who makes the playoffs from the AFC East this year. You have Eagles, Giants and Redskins. I guess you are hoping the Cowboys won't make it.

I would like your team a bit better if not for my anti Packers bias. Your WRs are the biggest question to me after Tate.

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2 hours ago, Crippler said:

QB. Packers. Have huge advantage here once you get past top 9. Makes up a good player even

RB. Kareem Hunt, Shane Vereen Like what I have seen from Hunt. Can he be my Howard from last year. Vereen is just PPR pts. Should get me over 100

WR. Golden Tate, Josh Doctson, Bruce Ellington. I got steady in Tate. I need Doctson to step up. Think Ellington with all the Houston injuries could surprise. Not a great group but hope helps the cause

TE. Ertz. I.expect big things and end up with him everywhere. 

D/K. Atlanta/Janikowski. Playoff potential for both. I expect Atl D to take a step up. 

I hated the one spot. Seemed to miss tiers one way and have to reach a little going back. Overall some playoff chances and hope Hunt and a Doctson step up

 

also think DC team looks solid. Wright was my first choice at my last pick. 

Amazed that anyone would risk having bottom three QB. Maybe why I like DC team. He was able to wait and got a not bad QB. One that will improve. 

Ertz is a tough call for me this year cause I want to jump on board with the good things we are hearing etc.  But over 20% of his points came in his monster week 17 game and that combined with 2 other games made him account for over 45% of his scoring in 3 games.  While I understand this is total points and it really doesn't matter where they come from, I am just wondering if the 55% spread out over 13 games is more of an indication than his 45% in 3.  

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19 minutes ago, Stinkin Ref said:

Ertz is a tough call for me this year cause I want to jump on board with the good things we are hearing etc.  But over 20% of his points came in his monster week 17 game and that combined with 2 other games made him account for over 45% of his scoring in 3 games.  While I understand this is total points and it really doesn't matter where they come from, I am just wondering if the 55% spread out over 13 games is more of an indication than his 45% in 3.  

Mr. Ertz,let me introduce you to Mr. Hill.

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Finsihed 2nd last year with the approach so I tried it again.

 

1900 points bogey, previous winners 1896, 1950, 1841,

 

Jaguars, Jacksonville JAC TMQB – 329 (328/396)

Charles, Jamaal DEN RB - 123

Coleman, Tevin ATL RB – 170 (234 last year)

Turbin, Robert IND RB – 99

Bryant, Dez DAL WR – 243

Edelman, Julian NEP WR – 183 (293 last year)

Williams, Tyrell LAC WR - 185

Allen, Dwayne NEP TE – 104 (189 Bennett last year)

Myers, Jason JAC PK - 133

Packers, Green Bay GBP Def – 76

 

Dodds has me projected for 1645 points.  That leaves me 255 pts short.  Need Allen to produce like Bennett last year +85.  Let’s give Edelman 50 playoff points +55.  I think Dez is projected about 30 points light and will add 40 more playoff points +70.  Dangerous to give Coleman playoff points.  Green Bay should be about 25 points better on defense +25.  That leaves me at 1890 total points.  10 playoff points from Jax, LAC, IND, DEN will put me at 1900.

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16 minutes ago, BassNBrew said:

Finsihed 2nd last year with the approach so I tried it again.

1900 points bogey, previous winners 1896, 1950, 1841,

Jaguars, Jacksonville JAC TMQB – 329 (328/396)

Charles, Jamaal FA RB - 0

Coleman, Tevin ATL RB – 170 (234 last year)

Turbin, Robert IND RB – 99

Bryant, Dez DAL WR – 243

Edelman, Julian NEP WR – 183 (293 last year)

Williams, Tyrell LAC WR - 185

Allen, Dwayne NEP TE – 104 (189 Bennett last year)

Myers, Jason JAC PK - 133

Packers, Green Bay GBP Def – 76

Dodds has me projected for 1522 points.  That leaves me 378 pts short.  Need Allen to produce like Bennett last year +85.  Let’s give Edelman 50 playoff points +55.  I think Dez is projected about 30 points light and will add 40 more playoff points +70.  Dangerous to give Coleman playoff points.  Green Bay should be about 25 points better on defense +25.  That leaves me at 1767 total points.  133 playoff points from Jax, LAC, IND, will put me at 1900.

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1.14     J. NELSON  GBP WR  - had choice between Nelson / Shady, went with the playoff gravy.  Assuming 300+ w/playoff pts added if he stays helthy

2.19     L. FITZGERALD  ARZ WR - undervalued in PPR IMO, and if AZ finds a way to get in playoffs then any addl pts will be a bonus.  Am hoping for 250+

3.14     M. BENNETT  GBP TE - Went back n forth about going 3rd WR here as well as REED and INGRAM (who was a huge bargain for A99) but I went for safety and likely deep playoff run.  In retrospect I would have gone INGRAM....  w/playoff pts included, I expect 200+

4.19     J. WHITE   NEW RB - Cupboard is thinning at RB by now, he is best of what's left + playoff pts.  Regression from 2016 pt total is expected but If I can get 175+ will be ok with. 

5.14     PATRIOTS DEFENSE - I know it was probably a reach but is hard to pass up a deep playoff run as well as NYJ x2 and BUF x2.  If the O plays to it's potential, there will be more pt's to come as other teams try to keep up and make mistakes.   Hoping for 180+

6.19     MINNESOTA TEAM QB - I waited too long to address the QB, wasn't much left.  It came down to LAR or MIN, coin flip in favor of the VIKINGS.  Hopefully Bradford can stay healthy, the O-line is improved, and they don't play so much short dink/dunk like LY.   Shooting for 290+

7.14     C. CONLEY  KAN WR - the teams #2 WR on a possible playoff team, and IF, Mahomes takes over or Smith stops dinking/dunking so much, there is hidden upside here.  Am hoping (fingers crossed) for 120+ here reg season, and if makes playoffs, maybe another 10-20....

8.19     M. MACK   IND RB - I don't envision the COLTS making the playoffs, even if LUCK was healthy t/d.  So I'm banking on only getting reg season pts here.  I love the kids landing spot but he has too much tendancy to bend things to the outside.  Obviously dynamic as a pass catcher, I don't see him taking much work from GORE or TURBIN on the ground unless inj occurs but Im guessing he gets 30+ recpts and a little bit of work on the ground (pseudo C. Thompson or A. Kamara).  Am hoping for 90+ pts.

9.14    G. ZUERLIEN  LAR PK - Flat out, I waited too long to address the PK, but I was relieved to have him as an option.  An improved offense albeit one that should struggle in red zone will provide enough FG opps to give me positive ROI on this pick.  Last yr he scored 91.9.  I don't see why 110+ isn't realistic.

10.19   T. COHEN  CHI RB - Making any reasonable prediction for this kid is difficult.  J. Howard is a great back, Langford/Carey are nothing special.  Cohen is small so I don't ever see him getting a large amount of carries but he is dynamite with the ball in his hands.  IF he can get 40-50 atts and 25+ recpts and 1-2 TD somewhere? I could see him getting in range of 75-90 pts. 

 

Adding it up puts me right around 1800.  Solid, Not bad, but not enough to win the whole thing.  Will need some things to break my way a bit here and there.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, TheGrimReaper said:

1.14     J. NELSON  GBP WR  - had choice between Nelson / Shady, went with the playoff gravy.  Assuming 300+ w/playoff pts added if he stays helthy

2.19     L. FITZGERALD  ARZ WR - undervalued in PPR IMO, and if AZ finds a way to get in playoffs then any addl pts will be a bonus.  Am hoping for 250+

3.14     M. BENNETT  GBP TE - Went back n forth about going 3rd WR here as well as REED and INGRAM (who was a huge bargain for A99) but I went for safety and likely deep playoff run.  In retrospect I would have gone INGRAM....  w/playoff pts included, I expect 200+

4.19     J. WHITE   NEW RB - Cupboard is thinning at RB by now, he is best of what's left + playoff pts.  Regression from 2016 pt total is expected but If I can get 175+ will be ok with. 

5.14     PATRIOTS DEFENSE - I know it was probably a reach but is hard to pass up a deep playoff run as well as NYJ x2 and BUF x2.  If the O plays to it's potential, there will be more pt's to come as other teams try to keep up and make mistakes.   Hoping for 180+

6.19     MINNESOTA TEAM QB - I waited too long to address the QB, wasn't much left.  It came down to LAR or MIN, coin flip in favor of the VIKINGS.  Hopefully Bradford can stay healthy, the O-line is improved, and they don't play so much short dink/dunk like LY.   Shooting for 290+

7.14     C. CONLEY  KAN WR - the teams #2 WR on a possible playoff team, and IF, Mahomes takes over or Smith stops dinking/dunking so much, there is hidden upside here.  Am hoping (fingers crossed) for 120+ here reg season, and if makes playoffs, maybe another 10-20....

8.19     M. MACK   IND RB - I don't envision the COLTS making the playoffs, even if LUCK was healthy t/d.  So I'm banking on only getting reg season pts here.  I love the kids landing spot but he has too much tendancy to bend things to the outside.  Obviously dynamic as a pass catcher, I don't see him taking much work from GORE or TURBIN on the ground unless inj occurs but Im guessing he gets 30+ recpts and a little bit of work on the ground (pseudo C. Thompson or A. Kamara).  Am hoping for 90+ pts.

9.14    G. ZUERLIEN  LAR PK - Flat out, I waited too long to address the PK, but I was relieved to have him as an option.  An improved offense albeit one that should struggle in red zone will provide enough FG opps to give me positive ROI on this pick.  Last yr he scored 91.9.  I don't see why 110+ isn't realistic.

10.19   T. COHEN  CHI RB - Making any reasonable prediction for this kid is difficult.  J. Howard is a great back, Langford/Carey are nothing special.  Cohen is small so I don't ever see him getting a large amount of carries but he is dynamite with the ball in his hands.  IF he can get 40-50 atts and 25+ recpts and 1-2 TD somewhere? I could see him getting in range of 75-90 pts. 

 

Adding it up puts me right around 1800.  Solid, Not bad, but not enough to win the whole thing.  Will need some things to break my way a bit here and there.

 

 

Very solid imo. Thought it would add up to more pointsThought it would add up to more points

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1 hour ago, TheGrimReaper said:

1.14     J. NELSON  GBP WR  - had choice between Nelson / Shady, went with the playoff gravy.  Assuming 300+ w/playoff pts added if he stays helthy

2.19     L. FITZGERALD  ARZ WR - undervalued in PPR IMO, and if AZ finds a way to get in playoffs then any addl pts will be a bonus.  Am hoping for 250+

3.14     M. BENNETT  GBP TE - Went back n forth about going 3rd WR here as well as REED and INGRAM (who was a huge bargain for A99) but I went for safety and likely deep playoff run.  In retrospect I would have gone INGRAM....  w/playoff pts included, I expect 200+

4.19     J. WHITE   NEW RB - Cupboard is thinning at RB by now, he is best of what's left + playoff pts.  Regression from 2016 pt total is expected but If I can get 175+ will be ok with. 

5.14     PATRIOTS DEFENSE - I know it was probably a reach but is hard to pass up a deep playoff run as well as NYJ x2 and BUF x2.  If the O plays to it's potential, there will be more pt's to come as other teams try to keep up and make mistakes.   Hoping for 180+

6.19     MINNESOTA TEAM QB - I waited too long to address the QB, wasn't much left.  It came down to LAR or MIN, coin flip in favor of the VIKINGS.  Hopefully Bradford can stay healthy, the O-line is improved, and they don't play so much short dink/dunk like LY.   Shooting for 290+

7.14     C. CONLEY  KAN WR - the teams #2 WR on a possible playoff team, and IF, Mahomes takes over or Smith stops dinking/dunking so much, there is hidden upside here.  Am hoping (fingers crossed) for 120+ here reg season, and if makes playoffs, maybe another 10-20....

8.19     M. MACK   IND RB - I don't envision the COLTS making the playoffs, even if LUCK was healthy t/d.  So I'm banking on only getting reg season pts here.  I love the kids landing spot but he has too much tendancy to bend things to the outside.  Obviously dynamic as a pass catcher, I don't see him taking much work from GORE or TURBIN on the ground unless inj occurs but Im guessing he gets 30+ recpts and a little bit of work on the ground (pseudo C. Thompson or A. Kamara).  Am hoping for 90+ pts.

9.14    G. ZUERLIEN  LAR PK - Flat out, I waited too long to address the PK, but I was relieved to have him as an option.  An improved offense albeit one that should struggle in red zone will provide enough FG opps to give me positive ROI on this pick.  Last yr he scored 91.9.  I don't see why 110+ isn't realistic.

10.19   T. COHEN  CHI RB - Making any reasonable prediction for this kid is difficult.  J. Howard is a great back, Langford/Carey are nothing special.  Cohen is small so I don't ever see him getting a large amount of carries but he is dynamite with the ball in his hands.  IF he can get 40-50 atts and 25+ recpts and 1-2 TD somewhere? I could see him getting in range of 75-90 pts. 

Adding it up puts me right around 1800.  Solid, Not bad, but not enough to win the whole thing.  Will need some things to break my way a bit here and there.

Nelson and Bennett are competing for the same points. IMO, I don't see Bennett scoring more than he did last year (188 points). Hoping for 250+ from Fitz is probably more hope than reality. He had 243 last year. He would probably need to get two extra games this year to hit 250. White will have to compete with Cooks, Gronk, and more RB's. He had nearly 50 points in the SB. I would take the under on 175 points. Not a huge fan of anyone from KC beyond Kelce. Conley 1 career TD. Who knows about back up RB's.

Like all ABLC teams, will need to get extra points from a surprising source. Having a tough time figuring out where those will come from (a deep playoff run?, a career year? a guy becoming the go to guy?).

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On 8/21/2017 at 11:18 PM, Anarchy99 said:

It's been all over today that Smallwood is the current favorite to be the lead back and Blount has been bloated and floundering. I would have taken Smallwood one pick later.

Didn't see this until now, but the news was why I grabbed him. I think I had an Oakland back first and then moved Smallwood up. Looks like he is splitting time with Blount today so may turn out true. 

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1.21 21.renesauz Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR

2.12 44.renesauz Miller, Lamar HOU RB

3.21 85.renesauz Walker, Delanie TEN TE

4.12 108.renesauz Matthews, Jordan BUF WR

5.21 149.renesauz Broncos, Denver DEN TMQB

6.12 172.renesauz Clay, Charles BUF TE

7.21 213.renesauz Gano, Graham CAR PK

8.12 236.renesauz Bengals, Cincinnati CIN Def

9.21 277.renesauz West, Charcandrick KCC RB

10.12 300.renesauz Williams, Mike LAC WR

First time in this format, and would do t least one thing different if I were to re-boot: Forgot about being able to replace a player, so taking a PK anywhere but the 10th round seems like an error.

Hoping for a bit of a rebound from Miller; not seeing what some are in Foreman. Think Jordan Mathews in the fourth could be a steal: he's a decent WR and he's gonna get a ton of looks. Feel good about the two TE strategy, but would feel better if at least one of them had a higher ceiling. Hoping C. West catches some lightening, but even if he doesn't he should stay involved. Mike WIlliams? No clue, but there isn't a whole lot to choose from at pick 300.

Overall it feels like an average squad. There aren't any sure-fire playoff teams, but if Denver can squeak in that's TWO key players. I like Houston's chances to go into the post-season as well, and Carolina and Kansas City both have chances. It isn't hard to see a path to a good showing.

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1 hour ago, freeannyong said:
On 8/21/2017 at 11:18 PM, Anarchy99 said:

It's been all over today that Smallwood is the current favorite to be the lead back and Blount has been bloated and floundering. I would have taken Smallwood one pick later.

Didn't see this until now, but the news was why I grabbed him. I think I had an Oakland back first and then moved Smallwood up. Looks like he is splitting time with Blount today so may turn out true. 

Smallwood looked pretty good tonight....better than Blount, and got more first team touches to boot

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10 hours ago, renesauz said:

First time in this format, and would do t least one thing different if I were to re-boot: Forgot about being able to replace a player, so taking a PK anywhere but the 10th round seems like an error.

I think that's too broad a statement. First of all, there's a lot of potential for injuries between Week 2 of the preseason and Week 2 of the regular season, which you can't backfill if you lose a kicker camp battle as well; second, with you at the 21st replacement pick you'll be in that grey area of "PKs who are probably dead men walking but haven't had a successor actually brought in yet".

I do think it makes more sense to wait until the 10th than to draft a PK In the 23-28 range, but aside from that it's nice to have the spot somewhat locked up so you're able to cover a freak injury to a RB/WR/TE.

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Lost Edelman for the year.  See you guys next year.

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