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Alabama Voters reject Roy Moore and send Doug Jones to the Senate instead!

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16 hours ago, Sand said:

Useless thought.  The choice was in the primary.  The Democrat has as much chance here as a republican would have for mayor of DC. 

I reckon you are probably right, but are we sure? Moore is way out there.

 

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A new Alabama Senate poll released again had Roy Moore with a double-digit lead over U.S. Sen. Luther Strange in the Republican primary runoff.

But it also indicated that Democrat Doug Jones will be a formidable candidate against either GOP candidate even in the deep red state.

The automated landline telephone poll conducted by Emerson College in Boston put Jones - who won the Democratic primary outright - in a statistical tie with either Moore or Strange as opponents.

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, whoknew said:

I reckon you are probably right, but are we sure? Moore is way out there.

 

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A new Alabama Senate poll released again had Roy Moore with a double-digit lead over U.S. Sen. Luther Strange in the Republican primary runoff.

But it also indicated that Democrat Doug Jones will be a formidable candidate against either GOP candidate even in the deep red state.

The automated landline telephone poll conducted by Emerson College in Boston put Jones - who won the Democratic primary outright - in a statistical tie with either Moore or Strange as opponents.

>>And the same poll said President Trump had a 51.5 percent approval rating in Alabama.<<

Yikes, that ain't much in Alabama for a GOP anything.

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On 9/22/2017 at 1:56 PM, whoknew said:

I reckon you are probably right, but are we sure? Moore is way out there.

 

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A new Alabama Senate poll released again had Roy Moore with a double-digit lead over U.S. Sen. Luther Strange in the Republican primary runoff.

But it also indicated that Democrat Doug Jones will be a formidable candidate against either GOP candidate even in the deep red state.

The automated landline telephone poll conducted by Emerson College in Boston put Jones - who won the Democratic primary outright - in a statistical tie with either Moore or Strange as opponents.

 

 

 

 

GOPers will rally around their winner and Strange will fall way behind.

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the whack job won.  Alabama :lmao:

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On 9/25/2017 at 4:58 PM, PlasmaDogPlasma said:

GOPers will rally around their winner and Strange will fall way behind.

funny how that happens

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12 minutes ago, joffer said:

the whack job won.  Alabama :lmao:

Birmingham seems like a really nice place.

I don't care what job you offered me, though, I dont see any way I could live in a state this backwards.

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16 minutes ago, Koya said:

Birmingham seems like a really nice place.

I don't care what job you offered me, though, I dont see any way I could live in a state this backwards.

I live in Birmingham.  I tend to vote Republican on a national basis but this is the most embarrassing day, at least politically, for our state in my lifetime.  We just had a guy who reminds me of a character from Hee Haw win tonight.  I'll vote for Doug Jones in December, but it won't matter here.  I voted for Luther Strange tonight, something I never thought I'd ever do.  I used to work with him, big time D.C. lobbyist and worked lobbying for our company.  Stay tuned for outrageous comments.  For anyone who thinks politicians make ridiculous statements now, let's hold Roy's beer and just sit back.

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13 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

I honestly have paid any attention to this at all.

What's the difference between Moore and Strange?

The sound bites.

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15 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

I honestly have paid any attention to this at all.

What's the difference between Moore and Strange?

Strange is a long time D.C. lobbyist.  He was portrayed as that and he basically is that.  But I don't think there's corruption or dishonesty there, he just made his living as a lobbyist.  He was an establishment vote for McConnell whenever he needed the votes.  Moore won't be that.  He's a twice removed judge who defied higher court orders and was removed for doing so.  Listening to him is like listening to a preacher on Sunday in a country church.  The problem is he swore on the Bible twice he would abide by the laws and uphold the Constitution and yet was removed twice for breaking that oath.  

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1 minute ago, Shula-holic said:

Strange is a long time D.C. lobbyist.  He was portrayed as that and he basically is that.  But I don't think there's corruption or dishonesty there, he just made his living as a lobbyist.  He was an establishment vote for McConnell whenever he needed the votes.  Moore won't be that.  He's a twice removed judge who defied higher court orders and was removed for doing so.  Listening to him is like listening to a preacher on Sunday in a country church.  The problem is he swore on the Bible twice he would abide by the laws and uphold the Constitution and yet was removed twice for breaking that oath.  

Do you know the details of him defying the higher court orders? 

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26 minutes ago, Koya said:

Birmingham seems like a really nice place.

I don't care what job you offered me, though, I dont see any way I could live in a state this backwards.

Huntsville and parts of Birmingham are really nice.  The entire country just voted Donald Truml President. Let’s not judge a state as backwards based on one stupid election that likely had a very low turnout.

Yeah, Bama is coming from a bad place historically.  But it can be a pretty awesome place , especially North Alabama. 

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I kind of think of Moore like Mike Huckabee, but dumber.

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And how about that great golfing?

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10 minutes ago, Gachi said:

Do you know the details of him defying the higher court orders? 

I did at one time, but I kind of have forgotten all the details over time.  If you ask an Alabama voter about Roy Moore, the first and only thing they'll mention is the Ten Commandments.  He's known as "The Ten Commandments" judge for refusing to remove a statue of the Ten Commandments from his courtroom when ordered by the court.  He subsequently has resisted and called for county clerk's to not obey the Supreme Court's ruling on gay marriage and to not issue marriage license's to gay couples.  He was removed over those instances.  But he's viewed by the average voter, especially in rural counties, as a very religious man because of his stance over the Ten Commandments.  To me it was always that he swore on the Bible to uphold the rule of law and now has basically gone back on that promise to promote his own political gain.

All that said, let me provide context to this race.  Strange was appointed by Gov. Bentley just before he was forced from office.  Strange was never elected to this seat and a lot of people rightly felt skeptical that his appointment was an appeasement as Strange had been in charge of the ethics investigation against the governor.  When Bentley resigned, the Lt Gov took over.  She had the option of calling this election or waiting for the next cycle.  She chose this option in my opinion because she knew Roy Moore had no office and wanted to run for something.  She didn't want him running against her for Governor so she set this up to clear him from the field.  Probably a smart move on her part.  Moore has about 30% of the electorate in his pocket from the start.  It's amplified in low turnout elections like this where he's the only race on the ballot.  His supporters are die hards.

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10 minutes ago, shader said:

Huntsville and parts of Birmingham are really nice.  The entire country just voted Donald Truml President. Let’s not judge a state as backwards based on one stupid election that likely had a very low turnout.

Yeah, Bama is coming from a bad place historically.  But it can be a pretty awesome place , especially North Alabama. 

There is a reason I brought up Birmingham... and purposefully said backwards state... not people.

It is. I could not be comfortable my nor others basic civil rights would be protected, and the push for religious intrusion made by the government into personal lives scares the bejeebuz out of me.

My underlying point is state politics absolutely plays a role in where we live, work, invest... this is just a stark example why, even in light of some great communities, and imo, overwhelmingly nice and caring people on a personal / community level there is no chance I would risk living in Alabama.

Yes, risk. Sad as it is to put it that way. All because of potential huge gov't overreach into my and others civil and religious freedoms. 

When a state strongly supports and will likely elect a man who wants to make homosexuality a criminal offense as if its 1954 again, as but one example, how could I be comfortable moving there? 

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11 minutes ago, joffer said:

I kind of think of Moore like Mike Huckabee, but dumber.

So like Mike's daughter?

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...Jeff Stein

Some right-wing conservatives think Sharia law is a danger to America — do you?

Roy Moore

There are communities under Sharia law right now in our country. Up in Illinois. Christian communities; I don’t know if they may be Muslim communities.

But Sharia law is a little different from American law. It is founded on religious concepts.

Jeff Stein

Which American communities are under Sharia law? When did they fall under Sharia law?

Roy Moore

Well, there’s Sharia law, as I understand it, in Illinois, Indiana — up there. I don't know.

Jeff Stein

That seems like an amazing claim for a Senate candidate to make.

Roy Moore

Well, let me just put it this way — if they are, they are; if they’re not, they’re not.

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- Well that solves that.

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3 minutes ago, Koya said:

There is a reason I brought up Birmingham... and purposefully said backwards state... not people.

It is. I could not be comfortable my nor others basic civil rights would be protected, and the push for religious intrusion made by the government into personal lives scares the bejeebuz out of me.

My underlying point is state politics absolutely plays a role in where we live, work, invest... this is just a stark example why, even in light of some great communities, and imo, overwhelmingly nice and caring people on a personal / community level there is no chance I would risk living in Alabama.

Yes, risk. Sad as it is to put it that way. All because of potential huge gov't overreach into my and others civil and religious freedoms. 

When a state strongly supports and will likely elect a man who wants to make homosexuality a criminal offense as if its 1954 again, as but one example, how could I be comfortable moving there? 

I love Birmingham.  And I've traveled all over the country on business so have been to most of the larger cities.  I did grow up in the rural parts of the state so when you compare Birmingham to those places it's completely night and day.  When you look at the county results map, the only places Strange won were in the Birmingham and Huntsville cities and suburbs. 

Also guys, watch the next Mississippi election with Sen. Wicker.  Chirs McDaniel won't go away who Thad Cochran narrowly defeated.  He and Moore will be quite the pair.

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Just now, Radical Larry said:

So this is like two piles of dog crap but Trump likes one pile more than the other?

I think Moore is much worse than Strange.  But my view of worse is why so many people here love Moore.

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Trump, ever the brave and principled leader, deleted his tweets supporting Strange. 

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49 minutes ago, Koya said:

Birmingham seems like a really nice place.

I don't care what job you offered me, though, I dont see any way I could live in a state this backwards.

I think you are shortchanging the rest of the country.  

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1 minute ago, Mister CIA said:

I think you are shortchanging the rest of the country.  

Haha, yeah I used to date a girl from central Pennsylvania.  She used to always rag on Alabama to me and I asked her to take a good look around and tell me what she saw.

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Just now, Shula-holic said:

Haha, yeah I used to date a girl from central Pennsylvania.  She used to always rag on Alabama to me and I asked her to take a good look around and tell me what she saw.

If I head more than an hour or so west of where I am in PA, it's with trepidation.

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Basically Alabama was so pissed off that a black man was elected President that they have built up a ton of hatred for all things except Tide football. So they are walking around looking for ways to flip a big middle finger to the rest of the US. And here it is "Judge" Roy Moore. He and George Wallace would be best of buds if ol George was around today. The people of Alabama don't give a #### what you think - it's eff you America. It's the American Taliban at work.  Roll Tide.

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1 minute ago, ffldrew said:

Basically Alabama was so pissed off that a black man was elected President that they have built up a ton of hatred for all things except Tide football. So they are walking around looking for ways to flip a big middle finger to the rest of the US. And here it is "Judge" Roy Moore. He and George Wallace would be best of buds if ol George was around today. The people of Alabama don't give a #### what you think - it's eff you America. It's the American Taliban at work.  Roll Tide.

Maybe that's my problem, I'm an Auburn grad.

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Just now, Shula-holic said:

Maybe that's my problem, I'm an Auburn grad.

 

Just now, Shula-holic said:
1 minute ago, ffldrew said:

Basically Alabama was so pissed off that a black man was elected President that they have built up a ton of hatred for all things except Tide football. So they are walking around looking for ways to flip a big middle finger to the rest of the US. And here it is "Judge" Roy Moore. He and George Wallace would be best of buds if ol George was around today. The people of Alabama don't give a #### what you think - it's eff you America. It's the American Taliban at work.  Roll Tide.

Maybe that's my problem, I'm an Auburn grad.

WDE

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Just now, ffldrew said:

 

WDE

WDE.  What a day, Roy Moore and the dumpster fire that apparently is the AU Athletics Dept after the softball scandal and now Chuck Person being involved in these federal charges.

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Just now, Shula-holic said:
1 minute ago, ffldrew said:

 

WDE

WDE.  What a day, Roy Moore and the dumpster fire that apparently is the AU Athletics Dept after the softball scandal and now Chuck Person being involved in these federal charges.

Don't forget the bus rapes - it's a train wreck on the Plains

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22 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Just putting this out there..

no offense @Henry Ford 

but how can we get Alabama to secede?

Why would i be offended? I hate Alabama and Moore is one of Sessions' boys. 

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10 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

Why would i be offended? I hate Alabama and Moore is one of Sessions' boys. 

You ain't seen nothing yet if you think Jeff Sessions is the standard.  He basically isn't qualified to wash Roy Moore's underwear on the scale of far right.

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37 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

So this is like two piles of dog crap but Trump likes one pile more than the other?

Fighting to replace another pile of dog crap. 

Moore is awful, but this was Sessions' seat.  There's a certain baseline level of awful to be maintained. 

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