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zoonation
Footballguy
He pushed at worst on the decision. NO could throw up some decent points on Chi. I bet Howard goes for 175 though.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Just curious about that botched offensive hand off between Mallett and Allen that was recovered by Moore for a TD in the end zone. No change of possession. That should not be credited as a defensive TD fumble recovery? I see NFL.com gave BAL D 6 points for that???
shadyridr
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Here’s some quality 20-20 hindsight:
3 G Versus Top 12 offenses (fewest FFPA to DT) - 2.00 PPG
1 G Versus Neutral offense (11-20 FFPA) - 16.75
4 G Versus bottom 10 offense (most FFPA to DT - 28.94 PPG, low of 20.50 to high 40.75
Remaining schedule:
RED - Week 10 bye, Week 14 @ PIT
YELLOW - Week 9 @ TEN, Week 11 @ GB, Week 12 Hou
GREEN - Week 13 DET, Week 15 @ CLE, Week 16 IND
Last two are the two most generous offenses in terms of FFPA to DT.
Since they have struggled against competent offenses, might pair them with GB. The Packers have good matchups the next 3 Welsh and CLE Week 14.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I like that BUF/DET combo a lot. Both are gone now but I almost did that a few weeks back.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Started Baltimore in one league
but had Baltimore start against me in the league I care about most. Can't win sometimes even when you do win !
Rolling with Philly in that second one, at home, good D, dunno think they could demolish 49ers and if they get ahead will lead to some turnovers
but had Baltimore start against me in the league I care about most. Can't win sometimes even when you do win !
Rolling with Philly in that second one, at home, good D, dunno think they could demolish 49ers and if they get ahead will lead to some turnovers
need2know
Footballguy
It was a win lose for me. I have them in one money league. Went against them in another.
Here’s some quality 20-20 hindsight:
3 G Versus Top 12 offenses (fewest FFPA to DT) - 2.00 PPG
1 G Versus Neutral offense (11-20 FFPA) - 16.75
4 G Versus bottom 10 offense (most FFPA to DT - 28.94 PPG, low of 20.50 to high 40.75
Remaining schedule:
RED - Week 10 bye, Week 14 @ PIT
YELLOW - Week 9 @ TEN, Week 11 @ GB, Week 12 Hou
GREEN - Week 13 DET, Week 15 @ CLE, Week 16 IND
Last two are the two most generous offenses in terms of FFPA to DT.
Since they have struggled against competent offenses, might pair them with GB. The Packers have good matchups the next 3 Welsh and CLE Week 14.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Anyone still bullish on Houston the rest of the way? I can get them for nothing and pair with DET ROS. They've had 2 duds but have been pretty great otherwise.
Skoo
Footballguy
Absolutely. Have them paired with the Vikings the rest of the way.
Houston has a pretty great schedule as well, especially since it doesn't look like Luck is going to play anytime soon.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Is this pro or anti TB D?
Either way I am staying away from this in streaming D, pick em, Survivor, etc. I can see this really going either way.
So Miami defense is being listed as giving up 22 points on espn versus 28 on Yahoo. I'm assuming this is because of the offensive fumble recovery td for Baltimore. Does anyone know if either site will make a scoring adjustment or do they just have different settings?
I would assume that the touchdown would count against Miami's defense as Yahoo has it because it was the Baltimore O scoring on the Miami D. And possession never changed so none of that offense becomes defense stuff applies.
I would assume that the touchdown would count against Miami's defense as Yahoo has it because it was the Baltimore O scoring on the Miami D. And possession never changed so none of that offense becomes defense stuff applies.
arctic_panzer_wolf
Footballguy
Hopefully I don't have to check this thread anymore. Was able to pick up both Detroit and Philly after they were dropped last week. SF, Den, Cle, @Chi, Chi looks like a nice combo the next 5 weeks. In weeks 13-16 though they both have 3 of their last 4 on road. Already eyeing SD vs Cle in week 13.
You will have to.
The entire landscape changes every three weeks.
Up becomes down. Black becomes white.
modogg
Footballguy
Franknbeans
Footballguy
The only way the TB D is a fantasy factor is if the forecasted wind blows the ball right into the hands of the defensive backs.
need2know
Footballguy
Like all of the cbs
I think the safeties are playing. Only thing they have going for them is cam playing like ?
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oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Was able to get Pittsburgh in a trade and pick up Houston off WW. Good luck the rest of the way my friends... this is always my favorite thread of the year but it was time for me to get off the ride.
I have Cincy going against the Colts this week and Detroit on my bench. Pittsburgh is actually sitting there available. I'm thinking about grabbing them, dropping Cincy, and rolling with the Lions and Steelers the rest of the way. I know the Bengals matchup is awesome, but the Lions tend to give up some points to defenses themselves. Thoughts? I don't think I can wait long before someone notices the Steelers are still out there.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think the Steelers are good play. The Lions have been turning the ball over a lot lately.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
CIN got dropped (for the Saints, which is curious) - might put in a small bid to swap them out with the Pack. Going for a Ravens + XXX combo RoS, and the Bengals schedule dovetails nicely with BAL.
Why is nobody talking about Detroit as a rest of season play? 46% owned in Yahoo, double digit points every week but 1 and after this week has:
@GB (Hundley is a joke)
vs. CLE
@CHI
vs. MIN
@BAL
@TB (playoffs)
vs. CHI (playoffs)
@CIN (championship)
That is 3 solid weeks in a row starting next week, followed by 2 ok match ups, 1 that I wouldn't start them for, and 2 bunnies to end the year. Snap them up if you can, I know I did.
@GB (Hundley is a joke)
vs. CLE
@CHI
vs. MIN
@BAL
@TB (playoffs)
vs. CHI (playoffs)
@CIN (championship)
That is 3 solid weeks in a row starting next week, followed by 2 ok match ups, 1 that I wouldn't start them for, and 2 bunnies to end the year. Snap them up if you can, I know I did.
What would it take to convince you? They have finished 6th, 2nd, 5th, 7th, dud, and 6th weekly throughout the season and are 4th overall on the season with their bye already taken. I'm not saying they are going to go all Jacksonville on you and win you your week but they feel like a lock as a top 5 finisher that just keeps putting up consistent above average numbers.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
FAAB? 5%
Trade wise? Jared Cook
Here’s the thing...what you really want to ask is what value would be a player of equivalent production? So if you’re trying to build a trade to acquire AB or Bell it’s everything and the kitchen sink, so long as you can stil field a competitive remaining lineup - because you’re getting a player for whom there is no equivalency. But for the Jax D, you can find that every week on the wire by streaming, or finding the right 2nd half combo to form a subcommittee.
I’ve used 6 DSTs this season and have gotten 131.50 points through 8 weeks; in our format, it’s BAL - 139.00, JAC - 137.50, LAR - 112.50. Just pay attention to FFPA to DT, you’ll do fine.
The Jags may not maintain this pace - they have a combined sack/turnover total of 49, which is 13 more than the 2nd highest Ravens (who have a game in hand) - but I think they’ll be at or close to #1 RoS. But their equivalency value over other positions is super low for a reason. Making a move for them is unlikely to key your championship run. There’s a temptation to do it, because we all want to have set it and forget it starters, but it’s not a sound enough strategic move to give up genuine value.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I’d call this a middling schedule, not a cupcake one.
GB, MIN, TB, and CIN all can put points on the board, BAL and CHI seem to be on the upswing.
It’s favorable, but I am not sure it’s trustworthy.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Disagree. GB and BAL, along with TB, are in top half of the league in points per game, with MIN just outside the Top 16 (19th).
CIN started horribly but have incredible talent and the Red Rocket looks to be initiating a new booster stage - this is a team that can score. CHI hasn’t been a high powered offense but Howard has been amazing, Trubisky’s getting through his learning curve and looking better each week, and I don’t think they are the same automatic juicy matchup for an D as opposed to the IND, CLE, SF, and the Giants have been.
TB is generally not a playable match up, won't argue that one. The others, definitely going to disagree. BAL is middle of the road at best with some real duds, GB is a mess with Hundley, CIN reliably gives the ball away and CHI is the most predictable offense in the NFL. MIN is a wild card, really depends on who is healthy, but DET put up a solid score against them once this year already. I'll take my shot with them, there will be better match ups but week to week waivers are a crap shoot. They at least will provide consistency
shadyridr
Footballguy
You realize gb lost Rodgers right? Baltimore also has a ton of defensive tds
shadyridr
Footballguy
We have shallow benches - 4 spots, but I burned a spot to pick them off waivers this week. I would not trade for them, rather just stream if I had to offer actual value.
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
I dropped Demver DST for Saints--which weeks ago would seem like a crazy move. Broncos just not getting it done, and their matchups is week and next against KC and PHI not great at all. Trying to do all I can with my opponent up 33 thanks to the huge game by the Ravens DST.
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