HellToupee
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Kids get daca , ICE gives most parents/families a pass to avoid breaking up the family
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Trump poised to end DACA as early as Friday (1 Viewer)
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HellToupee
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump·1h
Congress, get ready to do your job - DACA!
Congress, get ready to do your job - DACA!
HellToupee
Footballguy
The Trump Train @The_Trump_Train·1h
Replying to @The_Trump_Train and @realDonaldTrump
Make no mistake, we are going to put the interest of AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST! The forgotten men & women will no longer be forgotten.
Replying to @The_Trump_Train and @realDonaldTrump
Make no mistake, we are going to put the interest of AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST! The forgotten men & women will no longer be forgotten.
timschochet
Footballguy
But that's not part of DACA. And even if it was, you have trouble with this?? It doesn't work for you?
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Here's a whole bunch facts about immigration complete with citations
https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2013/02/01/10-myths-conservative-media-will-use-against-im/192494
https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2013/02/01/10-myths-conservative-media-will-use-against-im/192494
He is such a POS. He sounds so excited for ending DACA. I agree that it should be enacted by law through Congress but he could at least make some sort of statement regarding the potential impact it's going to have on people who are in the program. I know that's asking far too much of him.
squistion
Footballguy
That isn't what DACA does.
You have no idea what you are talking about, parents/families of DACA do not get a pass from ICE to avoid breaking up the family.
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Bruce Dickinson
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Coward, too. Trump doesn't want to make this announcement then stand there are not take questions, so he's sending Sessions out there to do it for him.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
and no questions allowed after the statement by Sessions either. ####### cowards.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
"Societies where the rule of law is treasured are societies that tend to flourish and succeed.
Societies where the rule of law is subject to political whims and personal biases tend to become societies afflicted by corruption, poverty, and human suffering."
- Jeff Sessions, spoken without a hint of irony
Societies where the rule of law is subject to political whims and personal biases tend to become societies afflicted by corruption, poverty, and human suffering."
- Jeff Sessions, spoken without a hint of irony
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
These racist cowards and the people who support them obviously suck, but they're not America. No matter how many people they deport, marginalize or disenfranchise, there's always gonna be more of us then there are of them. Just gotta fight harder.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
New Mexico Attorney General on Dreamers: "These are Americans who are just as American as Melania Trump."
(and a lot of other stuff explaining what DACA recipients go through the stay in the program and what they are doing with their lives)
(and a lot of other stuff explaining what DACA recipients go through the stay in the program and what they are doing with their lives)
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
####### cowardly scumbags
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I was going to say that maybe Trump realized that he would just #### up the Q&A so that's why he sent Sessions instead, but I guess not.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
F this admin and any of their apologists.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Terrible and disgusting decision. The right way would have been to have Congress codify DACA and then rescind the executive order once the bill was signed into law. Since this didn't happen, I can't help but think the decision is appeasing to fear and racial politics, which is despicable.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
It seems like they sent Sessions out because they are framing their resistance to DACA as procedural, not political. Sessions tried to make the argument that the content of DACA was immaterial; the problem was overreach of the executive branch and today's announcement is a move towards restoration of checks and balances. Also claimed several state attorney generals were poised to sue over DACA so they needed to take action now.
Sessions, or course, screwed up by also spewing some nativist rhetoric like "these people here illegally are taking jobs away from American citizens" and that the Dreamers are a drain on the economy. As if targeting 800K who set patterns of behavior early in life that becoming educated is important, demonstrated the ability to hold a steady job, and not committing crimes and removing them from society will trigger economic growth.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Let's not forget the $400 million every two years that comes from the semi-annual registration fees for those 800,000 people.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Don't be so naive. Ryan won't bring it up because of the Hastert Rule. The number one rule with this cast of characters is expect the worst and then lower those expectations.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Good point. Did we mention the Dreamers self-fund vetting of Dreamers with their application and renewal fees?
timschochet
Footballguy
Here's the problem with that idea: to make it happen, Paul Ryan would have to work with Democrats against the wishes of the Freedom Caucus. When has he ever been willing to do this before? Never.
Ever since the advent of the Tea Party in 2010, the Republican Party leadership has knuckled under to them every.single.time has has never once defied them. And they've had plenty of opportunity, particularly on immigration reform. So what makes you think something is going to change?
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
These positions aren't necessarily inconsistent- the travel ban claims to rely on a specific statutory authority, while Obama's DACA executive action did not, as far as I can tell.
The problem is that the positions don't pass the "smell test." They took a broad view of executive power in one case and are fighting hard to protect that view, and then turned around and took a view of executive power so narrow that they couldn't even allow it to be litigated in the next case. They also allowed this "unconstitutional" program to continue for 8 months and said not one word to Congress about codifying it to remove any questions of legality, before suddenly finding themselves so troubled by its constitutionality that they pulled the plug. Any reasonable person can smell the
from a thousand miles away.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Another stupid decision from an inept administration... In other news water is wet.
jonessed
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timschochet
Footballguy
I don't think that's accurate. They didn't break the Hastert rule; they got enough FC guys to go along with them.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
A DACA replacement through Congress is still admitting Obama was correct about something.
What Trump should have done today was faintly praise DACA - a well-intentioned idea done the wrong way. Then speak about how moved he has been this year learning about Dreamers and especially how they dove in the respond to Harvey, which was why he felt compelled to speak up today. Then acknowledge that Congress has a big month coming up, so he's going to urge Congress to prioritize a proper and better version of DACA in the 2018 session, so we can get rid of Obama's shortsighted EO and have the legislative branch draw up legislation that can last for 50, 100 years and make it even better for Dreamers here to work hard and stay out of trouble.
But since Trump and Sessions are bigoted nativists, we got what we got today.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
There's already member staking out their turf to get concessions in exchange for DACA support. Here's Pat Toomey planting the flag for ending sanctuary cities, boosting border security funding and cracking down on illegal immigrant employers in exchange for DACA.
I honestly don't know how this shakes out. The party with all the political leverage here is the minority. It's really an odd, and tragic, situation.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
TheI wouldbut holy F-ing hell.
part was watching him deliver it. I recommend catching video of it when you can. He was wearing glasses because Serious Attorney General Is Serious. His speech pattern and accent was this remarkable mix of condescension and ineptitude usually reserved for frat bros who get called on in class but haven't done the reading. One of my late grandfather's favorite turns of phrase was "there's nothing more dangerous than a know-not who knows not he knows not." I think about Grandpa almost every day because he was awesome and a role model, but today it was a little more specific.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Would explain why Republicans think that a gun registry would be used to track down and take guns.
Once again, just tipping their game plan accidentally.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I know you're just a shtick poster, but this is about as disgusting as it gets. You're better than this.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
FYI that post wasn't just @HellToupee copying and pasting a random white nationalist tweet. That message about the "forgotten men and women" was retweeted by the President of the United States. The White Nationalist in Chief.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Yeah, I watched it live and kept thinking "are you ####### kidding me?! Seriously, are you ####### kidding me?!!!".The
One of my late grandfather's favorite turns of phrase was "there's nothing more dangerous than a know-not who knows not he knows not." I think about Grandpa almost every day because he was awesome and a role model, but today it was a little more specific.
Please put these #######s in jail Mueller. Please.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Houston decimated by a hurricane and a bigger one headed for Florida. Need to raise the debt ceiling and pass a budget. Oh yeah, that little nuclear war threat. So this is what he leads with. To hell with them all.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
This is a great point and it speaks volumes about the Republican Party and it's supporters that this is the kind of red meat they turn to b/c they know it's what they want.
Trump ain't the problem folks.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
I think I'm going to start faxing Mueller and his team daily affirmations. Want to let them know they are doing a great job, we think of them every day even though they aren't plastering themselves all over TV, we trust their process. If they need anything, like extra highlighters, or Toasted Ravioli Tuesdays, or a few Varidesks, we can hook them up.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
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