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Fox news cracks me up...Benghazi! Hillary! Comey! AOC! (2 Viewers)
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Fox sucks, but given what’s going on in the world, it seems kinda gross to worry about who was right and who wasn’t. Doing the best we can to deal with it should be the priority.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Devin Nunes. Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt. Matt Gaetz. Trish Regan and Laura Ingraham. Mark Green (of the vaccines cause autism Republicans branch). Mike Pompeo.
https://twitter.com/SuperMugatu/status/1237857227551064066/photo/1.
Democrats are twice more likely (61 percent) than Republicans (30 percent) to say they plan to stop attending large gatherings.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
This is the first time most FOX viewers are experiencing a shared reality with the rest of the world. Like anti-vaxxers seeing what a world without vaccines is actually like.
It's easy to fall in with the party line saying events in Flint or Charlottesville or Ferguson wherever are fake, exaggerated, being used for political purposes when you live nowhere near there and you only experience them through FOX or Facebook or Infowars.
If suppression and isolation tactics work to mitigate the spread of the virus then FOX will be the first to say the crisis was exaggerated and only a problem in big liberal cities. They won't change. Don't let them off the hook.
It's easy to fall in with the party line saying events in Flint or Charlottesville or Ferguson wherever are fake, exaggerated, being used for political purposes when you live nowhere near there and you only experience them through FOX or Facebook or Infowars.
If suppression and isolation tactics work to mitigate the spread of the virus then FOX will be the first to say the crisis was exaggerated and only a problem in big liberal cities. They won't change. Don't let them off the hook.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Did you make this up all by yourself? Or did you have help? This isn't accurate or fair.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
you don't hear that every day.
my mother used to say that.
are you a 90 year old woman of Polish descent?
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Fox News reporter tells viewers that they don't have coronavirus if they can hold their breath for 10 seconds
I sincerely hope that no one was infected as a result of this misinformation, but I doubt it.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Not only was what Chicago Hooligan said accurate... it was dead-on balls accurate.
4 degrees before top dead center.
4 degrees before top dead center.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
I have a myriad of examples that are direct evidence of exactly what he said in my very own family. I am not around them a ton in day to day life. They live three states away, but when we're together I am absolutely stunned to hear their version of reality (including political reality). Even with this incident going on right in front of them they are rejecting it all. I had to tell a family member that they would not be allowed in my house if they insisted on keeping their plans. They were flying down here, going to a convention of 10K+ people then coming to my house. They continue to believe this is completely fake and blown out of proportion.
I haven't spoken with them since this administration changed its tune and I have no real idea what FoxNews is saying these days, but I hope they changed their tune when this admin did.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Their previous rhetoric was dangerous and should cost them their careers (among other things that should have already cost them their careers). But it won’t.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
So, just to clarify, you have a bunch of anecdotes?
At BEST, they are no different than the lemmings on the left who believe every twitter post and anything they hear from Vox, MSNBC, CNN, Vanity Fair, etc...etc.... All worse than Fox, IMO.
Those complaining about "The Fox News Viewers" need to take a long hard look at how they're being led around.
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Herb
Footballguy
I am not. But when I was younger I spent a lot of time around grandparents of Irish and German descent. It must've stuck.
My father fits this. Almost 70, living in rural Indiana, diehard Republican, Fox/ Rush consumer. Over the last few years we've had a few (respectful) shouting matches over politics. He and I have always enjoyed talking politics, but this administration has taken a lot of the joy out of it. He has essentially been ignoring the warnings. But I spoke with him today, and his attitude has changed a bit. Right in line with the shift in tone on Fox. Infuriating that he wouldn't listen to me, someone who works in a world-renowned hospital, about a massive health threat, but he still trusts those charlatans. This will cost people their lives. He shut me down when I told him that, though. Wouldn't hear it.
Herb
Footballguy
Those of us being "led" around will, when this has calmed down a bit, have a MUCH better chance of still BEING around. And that makes me really, really mad. Not at people like you, but at the people you have trusted to give you information. They sold you right the #### out.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Medical experts within Trump's own administration warned us of dire consequences weeks ago. Fox News and Trump brushed it off as hysteria. Now just about everything we were warned about is happening.
The media was warning us via experts and experience from other countries.
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BladeRunner
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Sorry, but I can't. Just can't.
I'm so sour on media nowadays I barely trust anyone. Every single one of them is owned by one Party or the other. When I see painfully obvious liberal rags like Rolling Stone talk about Fox News it just strikes me as being tone deaf (and hypocritical) and it turns me off.
I appreciate the link, though.
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Herb
Footballguy
Read the link and tell me, other than a few statements which are very obviously the opinion of the writer (all true, IMO) exactly what isn't true. You won't because you can't.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Except it isn't, they give examples. Which you would know if you bothered to read it.
But that's the point of not reading it, isn't it?
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BladeRunner
Footballguy
They all do it. Fox, CNN, MSNBC. You only care if it's Fox. You should care that it's all of them.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Not one of those other networks downplayed the severity of covid-19. Fox News and Trump did it for weeks. Not one of those other networks blatantly defied health recommendations like Fox News and Trump.
Herb
Footballguy
Covid-19 is not a ####ing opinion. Fox News misleading viewers about the dangers of it is not a ####ing opinion. People are DYING. But you just keep telling people they're overreacting.
I work in a hospital. I have a pretty solid grasp of what's going on and what's about to go on. Unless your posts are actually just a big troll job, you've shown through your recent history around here that (all due respect) you don't know ####. This is not political, this is life and death. Believe it or not, I want you and yours to stay healthy and ALIVE. I'm trying to help you. You are an American. You are a human. You are my brother. People in your life love you. Help them by not remaining ignorant. I beg you.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Okay? Let's say for the sake of argument I agree with you.
What's the point,? They pushed their propaganda? Why aren't you just as outraged about CNN, Vox, MSNBC, etc...etc... pushing their propaganda? Many of you who rail against Fox will absolutely fight to the death defending these other guys.
joffer
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Oh give me a break. You want to talk to me - at least be civil. You ended the conversation before it even started. Good work.
Your opinion on my posts is just that - an opinion. An incorrect opinion based upon your bias, of course.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
And our President listens to Fox...the “they all do it” is a cop out. Expected though.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Spit out the hook.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
gee I don't know because the biggest pandemic in a century was downplayed by the GOP propaganda channel and people are going to die because of it.
apalmer
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Things change quickly I suppose. I too have a family member beginning to come around. He was lamenting all these potential issues that have 'all of a sudden arisen" and how it sucks but we're probably doing the right thing. My only reply was essentially thank you for finally seeing what I've been trying to show you for 6 weeks now. If only they'd have taken measures six weeks ago. That's one, but one I never thought would change his mind regardless of who said what.
The Commish
Footballguy
Of course its all anecdotes (never claimed otherwise). And they are anecdote that go directly against your claim that the OP made things up and that those things weren't accurate or fair. They are absolutely accurate and fair for way more people than you want to admit. You can compare viewerships of the various channels grading them on your "goodness" scale if you like. I'll leave the subjective
nonsense to you and your buddies. From my perspective, you're all in the same boat rowing in different directions (circles) thinking you're superior to one another. No idea why you guys continue to watch our mainstream media and use it as some sort of meaningful standard. Doing that is doing it wrong IMO, but I get that's probably easier than actually looking at what's going on around you and accepting the interactions around you that really matter.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
This is funny, because we've been told that our immediate situations (anecdotes) either don't count, don't matter or both. Now you're in here saying they actually do? What? So anecdotes only matter now when it agrees with the left wing narrative? They either matter, or they don't. Which is it?The Commish said:Of course its all anecdotes (never claimed otherwise). And they are anecdote that go directly against your claim that the OP made things up and that those things weren't accurate or fair. They are absolutely accurate and fair for way more people than you want to admit. You can compare viewerships of the various channels grading them on your "goodness" scale if you like. I'll leave the subjective
I agree with you 100% when you say using the MSM as some meaningful standard is wrong. I do not watch it so I have no idea why you said or implied that I do. And I don't know who you mean by "my buddies" and I certainly don't think I'm superior to anyone. Far from it.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
There's always a "but" with you guys when excusing behavior by your side that you accuse the other side of doing.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
People are going to die because China didn't get a handle on it and covered it up. You should be blaming them. Your over-reaction and hyperbole is not helping.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
You ain't kidding.joffer said:
Amused to Death
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
China and S.Korea are seeing the numbers dwindle because of what they did, no but in my statement. not sure what my side is, MSNBC? shrug.
Carry on with your fox news love fest....
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BladeRunner
Footballguy
Really? You can't figure it out? Trump/Fox didn't cover anything up. Your hate for Trump is clouding your judgement, I think.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
You seem to imply a lot. I do not watch Fox and I do not love them. You seem to have a hatred for them that clouds your vision on the other media outlets. That is clearly obvious, to me, from your posts.
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
You say as you admit to not reading the Rolling Stone article that explicitly detailed their downplaying and lies.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
downplaying != cover up.
And as far as lies go, you guys were okay with them when CNN, MSNBC, Vox, etc... were doing it for the last 3.5 years on Russian collusion and pee tapes and all other random BS to push the propoganda - but when Fox lies it's a really big deal.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Its a really big deal when the President and his State TV contradict recommendations and facts from the CDC and medical experts.
Enjoy your quarantine. I'm out.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
You must have some proof then. Please back up your post with facts instead of passive aggressive potshots. Seems to me that those are the rules of the forum, no?
You've been following me around for quite a while now. How about having a civil discussion?
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