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Buy Low/ Sell High Week 6 - Offers you sent/rec'd - Discussion

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Buy/Low/Hold thread mixed with offers your receive during the week.  Help gauge what owners are low and if you should pounce.

Always nice to know what's being offered.  This thread has helped receive offers and send offers based on value discussed within team construct.

 

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2 minutes ago, Sir Psycho said:

Sell High: Chris Thompson

Buy low: Doug Martin

Not sure how Martin is a buy low  when he is just about to be back on the field

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1 minute ago, Team Smokin' said:

Buy Devante Parker - he's all that hype and more.

 

The Parker owner in my league keeps offering him in a deal but he's going after OBJ and Golden Tate.

I was thinking of trying Fitzgerald, James White, and Golden Tate for Keenan Allen and Davante Parker....

I'm not sure... I normally wait on the Top 200 going forward to help gauge some of my offers.

I'm not sure if I'd trade Fitzgerald and Tate for Cooks

 

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3 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

The Parker owner in my league keeps offering him in a deal but he's going after OBJ and Golden Tate.

I was thinking of trying Fitzgerald, James White, and Golden Tate for Keenan Allen and Davante Parker....

I'm not sure... I normally wait on the Top 200 going forward to help gauge some of my offers.

I'm not sure if I'd trade Fitzgerald and Tate for Cooks

 

I would trade Fitz, White, and Tate for Allen and Parker in a NY minute. 

Top 200 moving forward is a trend not an absolute. Parker has the skill set to be a #1. Cutler has the arm to get it to him. Even though I dislike Cutler's scowl - lol.

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52 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

A 0-2 owner just posted a fire sale. 

Shopping Cooks. Would he be a good buy low opportunity? 

Now might also be a good time to shop Ertz. Many TE injuries.  His big reception came on a double tip.  

Lots of WRs with bad weeks. Cooper, Fitz?  Bounce back buy lows?

I don't think Ertz is a sell high at all.  Given injuries to Olsen, Reed, and Gronk there is a good chance Ertz finishes as the #1 TE this year.  I'd actually have him as a buy given how barren the TE landscape is so far this year.  

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1 minute ago, bleachercreacher said:

I just bought Derek Henry.  I know he's high right now, but I'm taking the gamble on his value being higher.

I'm in a short bench league and have the 4th claim, I'm hoping I can swing a 2 for 1 deal today so I can claim him.

He was dropped last Wednesday.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

The Parker owner in my league keeps offering him in a deal but he's going after OBJ and Golden Tate.

I was thinking of trying Fitzgerald, James White, and Golden Tate for Keenan Allen and Davante Parker....

I'm not sure... I normally wait on the Top 200 going forward to help gauge some of my offers.

I'm not sure if I'd trade Fitzgerald and Tate for Cooks

 

I would laugh in your face if you offered me that for Parker and Allen.

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Just now, Raback said:

I don't think Ertz is a sell high at all.  Given injuries to Olsen, Reed, and Gronk there is a good chance Ertz finishes as the #1 TE this year.  I'd actually have him as a buy given how barren the TE landscape is so far this year.  

Fair enough, I didn't think I'd be able to get a TE around the top 7 range to upgrade elsewhere anyways.  Most in my league don't value Ertz as a top 5 TE.

I believe I took him as TE10 during my draft.

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17 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

The Parker owner in my league keeps offering him in a deal but he's going after OBJ and Golden Tate.

I was thinking of trying Fitzgerald, James White, and Golden Tate for Keenan Allen and Davante Parker....

I'm not sure... I normally wait on the Top 200 going forward to help gauge some of my offers.

I'm not sure if I'd trade Fitzgerald and Tate for Cooks

 

Your potential offer is terrible 

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Just now, Weebs210 said:

I would laugh in your face if you offered me that for Parker and Allen.

Good thing I never met the person.

I'll try Tate and James White for Allen first haha.

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1 minute ago, jeaton6 said:

Your potential offer is terrible 

His original offer was Allen/Parker for OBJ/Tate/Mixon

I can't sell low on OBJ. He also has Jordy.

 

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Rest of the season how do we rank....

Allen, Cooks, Fitzgerald, Tate, Parker, Watkins.

Also Jordy or OBJ ROS.

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12 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

I'm in a short bench league and have the 4th claim, I'm hoping I can swing a 2 for 1 deal today so I can claim him.

He was dropped last Wednesday.

 

 

Oof. That top waiver pick is going to be valuable.

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Just now, -OZ- said:

Oof. That top waiver pick is going to be valuable.

Only 4 bench spots. I'd have to get rid of James White if I wanted him. 

Ideally hoping to trade a 2 for 1

 

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11 minutes ago, bleachercreacher said:

I just bought Derek Henry.  I know he's high right now, but I'm taking the gamble on his value being higher.

 

You are going to be very happy in a few weeks sir.  I targeted him everywhere, getting him in 3 of 4 redraft leagues.

No, I don't necessarily want to start him just yet...its more of a long term play with me.  DeMarco can't last forever, and Henry seems to be moving more and more towards taking over.

 If an injury happens to Murray, his value skyrockets, and you can almost name your price then.

 

Plus the Titans schedule clears up considerably soon.  He may well be someone you just have to sit on, or spot start the rest of the season.

BUT- He has that massive potential to be a league winner or KING MAKER as we say.

 The upside is just too much to ignore, and a little later in the season owners will likely be #####ing they didn't acquire him earlier.

 

 TZM

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Sold high on James white - 12 team Ppr

gave: James white & Shane vereen

got: terrelle Pryor & tevin Coleman 

I'm 1-1, just lost Olsen, he's 0-2 but losing Reed prompted him to jettison all Redskins.

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13 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

Only 4 bench spots. I'd have to get rid of James White if I wanted him

Ideally hoping to trade a 2 for 1

 

Not a hard choice. I get the small bench but is it an 8 or 10 team league?

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23 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

Rest of the season how do we rank....

Allen, Cooks, Fitzgerald, Tate, Parker, Watkins.

Also Jordy or OBJ ROS.

In PPR? Allen, Tate, Parker, Fitz, Cooks, Watkins for me.

Also, OBJ.  

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6 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

Not a hard choice. I get the small bench but is it an 8 or 10 team league?

12 team league start Q-R-W-T-F-F-K-D (4 bench)

How would you rank those WR's ROS I posted a few above?

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1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said:

A 0-2 owner just posted a fire sale. 

Shopping Cooks. Would he be a good buy low opportunity? 

Now might also be a good time to shop Ertz. Many TE injuries.  His big reception came on a double tip.  

Lots of WRs with bad weeks. Cooper, Fitz?  Bounce back buy lows?

I love Cooks as a buy low candidate same with Michael Thomas. Sell high any extra TE on your roster.

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Just now, TheBottomLine said:

In PPR? Allen, Tate, Parker, Fitz, Cooks, Watkins for me.

Also, OBJ.  

Thanks.  Yes PPR, I think I'd have them Allen, Cooks, Fitz, Tate, Parker, Watkins.  I'm curious what the Top 200 says.

WR15-30 seems very interchangeable.

Cooks does seem very random.

If I'm playing 3 WR's a week OBJ/Cooper - I'd guess I'd want my WR3 more steady with Fitz or Tate.

 

Just an off week for Fitz, Tate, Cooper, OBJ banged up has me worried.

 

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1 hour ago, Snickers said:

Not sure how Martin is a buy low  when he is just about to be back on the field

An owner that is 0-2 and Martin won't be back until Week 5, and that owner needs a RB now.  They will sell Martin low.

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2 minutes ago, beerbuff said:

OBJ, Allen, Cooks, Parker, Tate, Watkins, Fitz

Yeah I may try Tate/White for Cooks.

Surprised you have Fitzgerald so low.

 

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39 minutes ago, Raback said:

I don't think Ertz is a sell high at all.  Given injuries to Olsen, Reed, and Gronk there is a good chance Ertz finishes as the #1 TE this year.  I'd actually have him as a buy given how barren the TE landscape is so far this year.  

Ertz looks like a lock for top 5 TE production.  I would hold.....or try to buy if I weren't an Ertz owner.   Ertz is giving you a nice advantage at TE and you probably drafted him late.

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1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said:

A 0-2 owner just posted a fire sale. 

Shopping Cooks. Would he be a good buy low opportunity? 

Now might also be a good time to shop Ertz. Many TE injuries.  His big reception came on a double tip.  

Lots of WRs with bad weeks. Cooper, Fitz?  Bounce back buy lows?

 

Ertz is going to be a top end TE this year, barring injury.  I have never been too high on him, but the stars have aligned, and the TE position is essentially a wasteland this year.

Even if you don't like Ertz, ask yourself who would you rather have, go right on down the list. Its amazing when you look at it like this.....

 Zach Ertz or Jason Witten?...........  Seriously?  :ph34r:

 Zach Ertz or Tyler Eifert?........... Injury and the Bengals looking horrific currently.

 Zach Ertz or Delanie Walker?.......... Admittedly close, but erase the "once in a career" jet sweep TD last year. 

 Zach Ertz or Jesse James?........... LOL

 Zach Ertz or Coby Fleener?............ Fleener is capitalizing (if thats what you want to call it) on the absence of Snead. I believe his "best case" is close to Ertz' floor this year.

 Zach Ertz or Evan Engram, Austin Hooper, Charles Clay, Zach Miller, Eric Ebron, Jared Cook? ...........NO, NO , NO, NO, NO, NO.

 Ertz is pretty much the "apple of Wentz' eye", that was the case even as far back as last year.

 The only ones you would likely want over Ertz, is the easier way to look at it. Gronk and Kelce and thats about it. Rudolph is close.  If you are a Jordan Reed believer maybe, but injury kills that value. Ertz is a strong hold, set it and forget it guy from here on it seems.

 

 

 Try and acquire Cooks as fast as you can, the blow up is coming.  They didn't acquire him to NOT be a key part of that NE offense, and with the injuries there, its only a matter of time.  On blow up game and his price is sky high again.

 https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/704334-dynasty-redraft-wr-brandin-cooks-new-england-patriots/?do=findComment&comment=20435827 

 

Lots of good discussion there after my post.

 

 TZM

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50 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

I'm in a short bench league and have the 4th claim, I'm hoping I can swing a 2 for 1 deal today so I can claim him.

He was dropped last Wednesday.

 

 

I offered Coby Fleener, Buck Allen, and Chris Carson for him and Ted Ginn.  This guy had awful TEs.  We'll see how it turns out.

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9 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

Yeah I may try Tate/White for Cooks.

Surprised you have Fitzgerald so low.

 

Fitz is on a bad team with a QB who is over the hill and done.

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1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said:

James White a possible sell high in PPR leagues.  Back field is random and game dependent.  

 

 

Not for him - he'll be the constant as the pass catcher.

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10 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

Same with OBJ :( 

Good point but OBJ is also one of the top players in the NFL when healthy. Fitz's best days are behind him also.

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1 minute ago, Gottabesweet said:

Would you trade Fitz, Tate, Mixon for Parker, Allen?

 

Everything depends on your bench. (plus scoring, like PPR etc) If you are absolutely loaded at RB then why not?

I assume you have another "starting" WR also right.?

 

Just keep in mind Mixon is slowly moving towards taking over. Thats pretty much what everyone seems to think. (and I figured this would be a slow process, even before the preseason)  I never like giving up potential solid starting RB1s. Sure, Mixon isn't there yet, but in 4-5 weeks, this could be completely different for Mixon.

 

 

TZM

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1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said:

I'm in a short bench league and have the 4th claim, I'm hoping I can swing a 2 for 1 deal today so I can claim him.

He was dropped last Wednesday.

 

 

Pretty sure if a player is on waivers he can only be claimed thru the waiver process.  In any serious league anyway.  

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So far today:

I offered Tate/White for Allen  - Was told it wasn't a bad offer he just doesn't like White and value's K. Allen on a different level.

 

I then offered Tate/White for Cooks.

He countered -  Cooper, Tate, White for Cooks, Cobb, Riddick.

I countered - Fitzgerald/White for Cooks - He said he'll look at it in a bit.

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Just now, Buck Bradcanon said:

What is yalls view on Andrew Luck returning?  TY Hilton is probably pennies on the dollar right now.

I tried Watkins and Mixon for him.  I might up this to Watkins and White.

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Just now, Buck Bradcanon said:

What is yalls view on Andrew Luck returning?  TY Hilton is probably pennies on the dollar right now.

I think the earliest Luck comes back is Week 5. So if you make a move for Hilton, you still have to go 2 more weeks without Luck.

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6 minutes ago, MattFancy said:

I think the earliest Luck comes back is Week 5. So if you make a move for Hilton, you still have to go 2 more weeks without Luck.

He's been OK without Luck thus far.  4-49 and 3-57 -

If you can get him for a WR3 type WR I'd go for it.  I'd guess Luck is back Week 6.  Encouraging he was on the sideline last week.  Guessing he practices soon then 2-3 weeks plays.

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4 minutes ago, Buck Bradcanon said:

What is yalls view on Andrew Luck returning?  TY Hilton is probably pennies on the dollar right now.

Hilton is one of those guys whose owner bought in the first or second round and would still be unlikely to part with for cheap because of the price they paid for him. If I were a Luck owner I'd be trying to get something for him. I think he'll be out a couple of more weeks and by then with zero victories they wont have any need to rush him back.

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9 minutes ago, MattFancy said:

I think the earliest Luck comes back is Week 5. So if you make a move for Hilton, you still have to go 2 more weeks without Luck.

And given it's Week 5, I would give it a couple of weeks for Luck to get back into the groove.  

Hilton is a good buy low, assuming you're buying at about 60-70 cents to the dollar.  If the Hilton owner is 0-2 and desperate, you might be able to go cheaper than that.

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