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Buy Low/ Sell High Week 6 - Offers you sent/rec'd - Discussion

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Buy/Low/Hold thread mixed with offers your receive during the week.  Help gauge what owners are low and if you should pounce.

Always nice to know what's being offered.  This thread has helped receive offers and send offers based on value discussed within team construct.

 

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1 minute ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Honestly I prefer Baldwin - but Sanders has a pretty good track record himself. He only was bad last season because Siemian was overmatched. If Siemian has truly turned the corner it's not crazy to think Sanders continues to outscore Baldwin. I wouldn't trade Baldwin for Sanders but I would not be offended by the offer.

I have Baldwin higher, but you're right. If Siemian can keep up what he's been doing and stay more consistent, it's not crazy to think Sanders and Baldwin will finish near each other at the end of the year. I just have more faith in Wilson getting back on track than I do in Siemian keeping up his hot start.

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2 minutes ago, skycriesmary said:

What?! How soon we forget Ray Rice. Dude caught a #### ton of balls.

Yeah I guess I am wrong - Rice and Forsett did catch passes. I still think of Flacco as a downfield passer for the most part.

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Anyone have thoughts on this one?

I give Tate and my choice of Mixon or White -  I get Hyde.

If I don't swing a 2 for 1 deal - I'll be dropping Mixon or White Sunday for a D

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22 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Yeah I guess I am wrong - Rice and Forsett did catch passes. I still think of Flacco as a downfield passer for the most part.

One of the big selling points of Woodhead this year was the Ravens led the entire NFL in passes to RBs last year.

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1 minute ago, shadyridr said:

One of the big selling points of Woodhead this year was the Ravens led the entire NFL in passes to RBs last year.

I believe they lead the league in pass attempts overall.

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Well I made the trade anyways... Not sure If I'm buying low or selling high.

I got Carlos Hyde, Tyrell Williams - I gave Golden Tate, James White, Joe Mixon.

 

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I have the opportunity to move Cohen and Sanders for AJG.  Cohen is on my bench and Sanders is my flex so it looks like a pretty good trade.  Dalton has me worried though.

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I have the opportunity to move Cohen and Sanders for AJG.  Cohen is on my bench and Sanders is my flex so it looks like a pretty good trade.  Dalton has me worried though.

 

 If you are loaded at RB, then this is almost a FREE UPGRADE at flex.

AJ Green has come out and said they need to get him the ball more, and Dalton has always been the same QB. He will force feed Green, its just a matter of when. Sanders will have some good weeks here and there, but his ceiling is nowhere near as high as AJ Green.

If for some reason you don't have much RB depth (and you should have depth, since you are reading and posting on these boards) then if you feel like you may need Cohen at some point, it muddies it a little.

But if you have depth, I make this trade as soon as possible, and act quickly before the other owner changes his mind.

 People here forget AJ Green had over 1,000 receiving yards his first 6 seasons, and last year he had over 950 yards IN ONLY 9 GAMES

So far, Green has had 10 targets and 8 targets in weeks 1 and 2 respectively.

Point is, Dalton may be having a bit of trouble currently, but he has always had trouble here and there.  AJ Green will definitely be targeted.

 There might be a few odd scenarios I would rather have both Cohen/Sanders, but its few and far between and I would have to see your roster to possibly go that route.

 

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21 hours ago, Gottabesweet said:

Anyone have thoughts on this one?

I give Tate and my choice of Mixon or White -  I get Hyde.

If I don't swing a 2 for 1 deal - I'll be dropping Mixon or White Sunday for a D

Depending on the scoring format (PPR/Std) and type of league (redraft / keeper/dynasty) and the makeup of the rosters, that could potentially be good for both sides.  

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20 hours ago, Gottabesweet said:

Well I made the trade anyways... Not sure If I'm buying low or selling high.

I got Carlos Hyde, Tyrell Williams - I gave Golden Tate, James White, Joe Mixon.

 

Gimme the Hyde side. I see this as Hyde for Tate/White 

fair deal both ways. If Mixon has value later it might tip the other way, but you're getting a feature back PPR beast who's basically matchup proof. 

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Gurley looks like a prime sell-high after last night. 

His schedule gets pretty stiff after this week & I'd say his max value is now. 

Not saying he's gonna fall off a cliff, but you could command a really nice package for Gurley right meow. 

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1 minute ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Gurley looks like a prime sell-high after last night. 

His schedule gets pretty stiff after this week & I'd say his max value is now. 

Not saying he's gonna fall off a cliff, but you could command a really nice package for Gurley right meow. 

Might be able package Watkins next week if Fitzgerald has a good game! fingers crossed.

Or could sell high on Hyde... good start.

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4 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said:

Might be able package Watkins next week if Fitzgerald has a good game! fingers crossed.

Or could sell high on Hyde... good start.

Watkins is tricky because of the concussion and the sentiment that he's a bust. With Watkins i think it's better to hold - Rams figure to be in some shootouts and that'll raise his value, but it'll take a few games for that. Meanwhile you'll get to enjoy his production. 

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2 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Watkins is tricky because of the concussion and the sentiment that he's a bust. With Watkins i think it's better to hold - Rams figure to be in some shootouts and that'll raise his value, but it'll take a few games for that. Meanwhile you'll get to enjoy his production. 

Watkins went between WR27-30 in all of my drafts - mid-range WR3 levels. On the heels of his one good game out of three ending in a concussion, I'd be surprised if anyone was paying more than low-end WR2 prices for him. That's not exactly "selling high" on a guy with his talent in a potential breakout year from Goff.

Sure, if someone will give you DT or Keenan for him, go for it, but otherwise I'd hold on and enjoy the ride.

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

Watkins went between WR27-30 in all of my drafts - mid-range WR3 levels. On the heels of his one good game out of three ending in a concussion, I'd be surprised if anyone was paying more than low-end WR2 prices for him. That's not exactly "selling high" on a guy with his talent in a potential breakout year from Goff.

Sure, if someone will give you DT or Keenan for him, go for it, but otherwise I'd hold on and enjoy the ride.

Yep - that's exactly my point. If he has 2-3 more ~100/1 games, then he's a good sell high. 

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Anyone move Gillislee or Gronk yet?

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I'm thinking that Howard will have a break out game this week or next, maybe more likely next the Bears O line is getting healthy including Jake Long......

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2 hours ago, TZMarkie said:

 

 If you are loaded at RB, then this is almost a FREE UPGRADE at flex.

AJ Green has come out and said they need to get him the ball more, and Dalton has always been the same QB. He will force feed Green, its just a matter of when. Sanders will have some good weeks here and there, but his ceiling is nowhere near as high as AJ Green.

If for some reason you don't have much RB depth (and you should have depth, since you are reading and posting on these boards) then if you feel like you may need Cohen at some point, it muddies it a little.

But if you have depth, I make this trade as soon as possible, and act quickly before the other owner changes his mind.

 People here forget AJ Green had over 1,000 receiving yards his first 6 seasons, and last year he had over 950 yards IN ONLY 9 GAMES

So far, Green has had 10 targets and 8 targets in weeks 1 and 2 respectively.

Point is, Dalton may be having a bit of trouble currently, but he has always had trouble here and there.  AJ Green will definitely be targeted.

 There might be a few odd scenarios I would rather have both Cohen/Sanders, but its few and far between and I would have to see your roster to possibly go that route.

 

 TZM

I was thinking it was pretty good also.  I did pay $26 in FAAB to get Cohen though but it could be a good investment if it gets me AJG.  My starting RBs are Zeke and Fournette with Ingam, T West and Charles on the bench.

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27 minutes ago, JIMGET said:

I'm thinking that Howard will have a break out game this week or next, maybe more likely next the Bears O line is getting healthy including Jake Long......

Kyle Long.  You've got the wrong brother there.

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2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Kyle Long.  You've got the wrong brother there.

Howie Long?

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TE help this week....Ed Dickson VS pathetic Saints Def....you're welcome.

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3 minutes ago, JIMGET said:

Howie Long?

Long Duck Dong

 

Curious what everyone thinks Fitzgerald's and Derrick Henry's values are.  I have a feeling This is going to be Henry's year and hoping to turn Fitz for him.

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On 9/22/2017 at 10:48 AM, JIMGET said:

I'm thinking that Howard will have a break out game this week or next, maybe more likely next the Bears O line is getting healthy including Jake Long......

THIS!!!:thumbup:

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So glad I turned down the lowball offers for AJ Green & Baldwin.

hope it keeps up! 

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Another week.

Getting really pissed that I bought into the second round hype. FBG staffers loved Cooper.

Rivers laid a stinker too.

Could sell high on Hyde/Watkins this week.  Hoping Zeke has a nice game to sell.

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I'd like to sell my Murray/Henry combo.  With Hunt and Cook as my starters I don't have much need for them.  I don't think I can sell them all that high though.

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Buy Low - McCoy.  Just finished 2 bad weeks against Den and Car.

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Buy Low - Mixon, His ticker is definitely moving up after this week. Opportunity to buy low past week 4 will be near impossible. Joe Mixon thread has a great analysis of the situation. Basically, we believe it will only get better because he has yet to fully break out. Get him now at the fraction of his real price. 

Holding High w/ Hyde - I think you'll see a lot of sells for Hyde, but his high is pretty stable to me and I don't see how his situation threatens to wane(besides a threat of injury). Not sure who you could target. I'll let the offers come to me though.

 

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Looks like I didn't sell Diggs and Howard low. That hurts.

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Anyone feeling a Smokin Jay Cutler buy-low? 

Move got a chance to move White for Cutler in a league where I've got solid RB depth & my QBs are Semien & Bradford.

not convinced Cutler is better than Semien. 

Hmmm...

seems like cutler has a pretty solid floor with obvious upside. 

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20 hours ago, Hartliner said:

Buy Low - Mixon, His ticker is definitely moving up after this week. Opportunity to buy low past week 4 will be near impossible. Joe Mixon thread has a great analysis of the situation. Basically, we believe it will only get better because he has yet to fully break out. Get him now at the fraction of his real price. 

Holding High w/ Hyde - I think you'll see a lot of sells for Hyde, but his high is pretty stable to me and I don't see how his situation threatens to wane(besides a threat of injury). Not sure who you could target. I'll let the offers come to me though.

 

I've thought about moving Hyde for a wr. But receivers cost so damn much in that league (start 3-5 wr with 1-2 rb) that a week ago I couldn't get k Benjamin for Hyde without throwing in one of the best linebackers in dynasty (ogletree). But as I've been starting two of Wallace, k wright and Decker I could really stand to improve my wr3 and 4. 

I'd think Watkins would be a fair swap in most leagues. 

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After the week 4 matchup vs. Denver, lynch may be a good buy low candidate. He looks healthy and seems to have his power and intensity, and the offense will be better you'd think. 

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5 minutes ago, Fever in the Funkhouse said:

After the week 4 matchup vs. Denver, lynch may be a good buy low candidate. He looks healthy and seems to have his power and intensity, and the offense will be better you'd think. 

The other RB's have been running well too though?  You think Lynch will ever get the touches? 20+

 

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5 hours ago, -OZ- said:

I've thought about moving Hyde for a wr. But receivers cost so damn much in that league (start 3-5 wr with 1-2 rb) that a week ago I couldn't get k Benjamin for Hyde without throwing in one of the best linebackers in dynasty (ogletree). But as I've been starting two of Wallace, k wright and Decker I could really stand to improve my wr3 and 4. 

I'd think Watkins would be a fair swap in most leagues. 

Was shopping Hyde this week, don't know if anyone will bite though...

 

Only offer I got after I updated my block was   Crowell and Big Ben for Rivers and Zeke lol.

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On 9/25/2017 at 8:44 AM, Hartliner said:

Buy Low - Mixon, His ticker is definitely moving up after this week. Opportunity to buy low past week 4 will be near impossible. Joe Mixon thread has a great analysis of the situation. Basically, we believe it will only get better because he has yet to fully break out. Get him now at the fraction of his real price. 

Hasn't this passed? I really wanted to get him last week when I heard Lazor was taking over, no doing. I feel like taking another running shot but it's pretty clear the cat is out the bag, I'm not sure what to give except a starter at this point.

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1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said:

The other RB's have been running well too though?  You think Lynch will ever get the touches? 20+

 

You're right, so it's more about appropriately setting expectations.  He's maybe an RB2 with good chances for a TD weekly. Only two rbs have 60 carries through three games. I don't know that we can expect many rbs with 20+ carry potential on the trading block. And yes, the backups in OAK are a threat, but I still think lynch is the 60 in the 60/40 split

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Just now, Fever in the Funkhouse said:

You're right, so it's more about appropriately setting expectations.  He's maybe an RB2 with good chances for a TD weekly. Only two rbs have 60 carries through three games. I don't know that we can expect many rbs with 20+ carry potential on the trading block. And yes, the backups in OAK are a threat, but I still think lynch is the 60 in the 60/40 split

I guess, I meant touches.  I have a hard time deciding if I should trade for him.  I'm 1-2 and the 2nd lowest scoring team in the league.  PPR, 6 per TDs.  The owner with Jordy Nelson and Lynch has been sniffing around Zeke.  If I trade Zeke it would leave me Hyde/Lynch/D. Henry I only have to start 1 a week.

We start QB, RB, WR, TE, F, F, K, D (With only 4 bench spots)

Rivers, Zeke, OBJ, Cooper, Ertz and then Fitz/Hyde has been my starting lineup.   (Bench Watkins, Tyrell Williams, D. Henry)

Rivers and Cooper cost me a win last week but Hyde and OBJ had great games. 

I think I need to find a way to upgrade QB. 

Luck is a free agent who I can add for Tyrell Williams.

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Devante Parker is overvalued right now. The time to get him was last week, before the Jets game.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Hasn't this passed? I really wanted to get him last week when I heard Lazor was taking over, no doing. I feel like taking another running shot but it's pretty clear the cat is out the bag, I'm not sure what to give except a starter at this point.

Better to get Mixon now before his first 100 yards and TD. 

Talk up how ####ty the Bengals' O-line is. It's true, after all. But if/when Dalton settles in and starts chucking bombs to Green and Ross, the O-line will be less pressured by 6 man fronts and Mixon's talent will make the most of it. 

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If you have some RB depth and looking to upgrade your RB3/potential flex play- Crowell may be a good buy low candidate. He's had 3 TDs stolen from him by Kizer/Johnson. Had he had those scores he'd be RB17 in PPR. He's faced 3 very difficult running defenses to start the season. I think if you can get him for the right price you could do a lot worse. Of course, this could be the start of his demise and he could flop- which is why I said you should get him as a RB3/potential flex. Or if you're desperate for a RB2. I think Crowell still finishes in the top 24... Currently RB 40 something in PPR

I look at this as the perfect buy low candidate. If he gets any lower he will be potential WW material. If you think he will finish higher than RB 40, you could get a bargain.

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