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Buy Low/ Sell High Week 6 - Offers you sent/rec'd - Discussion

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Buy/Low/Hold thread mixed with offers your receive during the week.  Help gauge what owners are low and if you should pounce.

Always nice to know what's being offered.  This thread has helped receive offers and send offers based on value discussed within team construct.

 

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11 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

I haven't looked to see if that is true, but even if it is  I said PPR, Flacco loves to dump it off. Allen is going to be getting 15 + touches a week for most of the regular fantasy season.

very true...he has looked good, I was replying to those tagging him with the bell cow role, I dont know if that is appropriate.

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7 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

Collins will be the back to own sooner rather than later. I'd sell Allen while he still has value. 

I don't know about that.

But if I have good RB depth, I would definitely try and sell Allen now...

 

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10 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

Collins will be the back to own sooner rather than later. I'd sell Allen while he still has value. 

:wub: I am glad we are back to disagreeing. We had an ugly trend there for a week where we did agree. It felt dirty and wrong.

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Just now, msudaisy26 said:

:wub: I am glad we are back to disagreeing. We had an ugly trend there for a week where we did agree. It felt dirty and wrong.

I think this disagreement comes down to standard and PPR though.

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8 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

I think this disagreement comes down to standard and PPR though.

Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!

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I'm in a bind.  I likely have to drop Mixon to add a DST Sunday morning   Until then...

Need to trade Fitzgerald or Watkins with Mixon for anything I can get.  

 

I thought Fitzgerald and Mixon for Diggs and Steelers would work. Guess not.  

 

 

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Is trying to trade Emmanuel Sanders for AJ Green the perfect combo of selling high and buying low converging?  Or is it nuts to think that Sanders is more valuable?

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2 hours ago, Gottabesweet said:

I'm in a bind.  I likely have to drop Mixon to add a DST Sunday morning   Until then...

Need to trade Fitzgerald or Watkins with Mixon for anything I can get.  

 

I thought Fitzgerald and Mixon for Diggs and Steelers would work. Guess not.  

 

 

What about just not starting a D?  What are the odds your game is close enough that it matters? Mixon could be a nice player in the 2nd half.

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3 hours ago, Gottabesweet said:

I'm in a bind.  I likely have to drop Mixon to add a DST Sunday morning   Until then...

Need to trade Fitzgerald or Watkins with Mixon for anything I can get.  

 

I thought Fitzgerald and Mixon for Diggs and Steelers would work. Guess not.  

 

 

Why would you "have to" drop Mixon. There aren't any byes this week.

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7 hours ago, Hurl Bruce said:

Is trying to trade Emmanuel Sanders for AJ Green the perfect combo of selling high and buying low converging?  Or is it nuts to think that Sanders is more valuable?

Why, yes, yes it its.

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10 hours ago, Gottabesweet said:

Might try Watkins/Mixon for Crowell/D

I worry that Crowell is just a guy

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On 9/19/2017 at 9:43 PM, shadyridr said:

Just tested my theory and sold Hyde & Maclin to a RB desperate team for Evans!

Wow nice move

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6 hours ago, Chaka said:

Why would you "have to" drop Mixon. There aren't any byes this week.

He made a waiver claim and isn't carrying a DST.

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7 hours ago, JAMES! said:

What about just not starting a D?  What are the odds your game is close enough that it matters? Mixon could be a nice player in the 2nd half.

Short bench.  We have to start a D or it's an illegal lineup.  My bench ideally is Fitz, Watkins, White, D. Henry 

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13 minutes ago, Short Corner said:

He made a waiver claim and isn't carrying a DST.

Grasping at straws here. Can't find a 2/1 deal anywhere.  

 

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8 hours ago, Hurl Bruce said:

Is trying to trade Emmanuel Sanders for AJ Green the perfect combo of selling high and buying low converging?  Or is it nuts to think that Sanders is more valuable?

As an AJ owner I wouldn't even counter offer because I would be offended.

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1 minute ago, Weebs210 said:

As an AJ owner I wouldn't even counter offer because I would be offended.

Nothing wrong with the Mike Damone approach though.

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29 minutes ago, MattFancy said:

Think I just sold a little high on Emmanuel Sanders. Was able to trade him straight up for Doug Baldwin.

 

 Yet another robbery in this thread.

 

Do some of you guys have no shame?? :thumbup:

 J/K, good deal.

 

 

 TZM

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2 minutes ago, TZMarkie said:

 

 Yet another robbery in this thread.

 

Do some of you guys have no shame?? :thumbup:

 J/K, good deal.

 

 

 TZM

Lol I wasn't even sure if he would accept it. I saw he had Baldwin on his bench this week and figured it was worth a shot.

According to the Top 200 Forward, Baldwin is one spot better than Sanders ROS. Not sure I agree with that. Baldwin has more catches and yards. Sanders' numbers look better because of the 2 TDs last week.

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26 minutes ago, Short Corner said:

Nothing wrong with the Mike Damone approach though.

It's a classy move. The other guy will have the Emmanuel Sanders with no throw-ins and an AJ Green for me.

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Hoping that Michael Thomas gets bottled up by the Panthers this week. That would make him a great buy low candidate for next week, with Snead coming back and the schedule getting better 

Anybody had any luck with Amari Cooper ? Last week with Crabtree TDs x 3 must have been a little hard to take, I notice the owner in my league has dropped him to the bench 

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18 minutes ago, TartanLion said:

Hoping that Michael Thomas gets bottled up by the Panthers this week. That would make him a great buy low candidate for next week, with Snead coming back and the schedule getting better 

Anybody had any luck with Amari Cooper ? Last week with Crabtree TDs x 3 must have been a little hard to take, I notice the owner in my league has dropped him to the bench 

I just traded for Thomas-- hoping he has a strong week! & than 13 more! 

I'd be trying to be AC too. 

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1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said:

Short bench.  We have to start a D or it's an illegal lineup.  My bench ideally is Fitz, Watkins, White, D. Henry 

Unless you have a scoring system that I'm not familiar with, I think this is your drop this week

 

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38 minutes ago, 4th&inches said:

Unless you have a scoring system that I'm not familiar with, I think this is your drop this week

 

I think I roll the dice with Mixon over all of them except Henry. RB lotto tickets are too valuable IMO.

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3 hours ago, MattFancy said:

Think I just sold a little high on Emmanuel Sanders. Was able to trade him straight up for Doug Baldwin.

Well done!

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1 hour ago, Chaka said:

I think I roll the dice with Mixon over all of them except Henry. RB lotto tickets are too valuable IMO.

I've been trying to package White or Mixon with Watkins unsuccessfully.

Maybe I'll try White/Watkins for Crowell....

Tyrell Williams, Riddick?  any of them worth sending 2 players (White/Watkins or Mixon/Watkins)

 

To get a gauge for how shallow guys like Lockett, Kamara, Lee, Moncrief, Luck, Corey Davis, Kupp are available

 

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Just got an offer that is intriguing to me:

Ajayi and Ebron for Buck Allen, Howard, and Diggs

In this league, RBs get .25 PPC, so last week, Ajayi got 7 points just on his carries.

My team:

RBs: Hunt, Crowell, Howard, Allen, TWest, TColeman

WRs: Julio, Hill, Diggs, Parker, TWilliams, Kupp

TE: Fleener

I feel like the only piece I'm losing is Diggs. But feel like I'm selling high on Allen and Howard before their values could bottom out.

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2 minutes ago, MattFancy said:

Just got an offer that is intriguing to me:

Ajayi and Ebron for Buck Allen, Howard, and Diggs

In this league, RBs get .25 PPC, so last week, Ajayi got 7 points just on his carries.

My team:

RBs: Hunt, Crowell, Howard, Allen, TWest, TColeman

WRs: Julio, Hill, Diggs, Parker, TWilliams, Kupp

TE: Fleener

I feel like the only piece I'm losing is Diggs. But feel like I'm selling high on Allen and Howard before their values could bottom out.

Yes!  why can't I get offers like these.

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Just now, Gottabesweet said:

Yes!  why can't I get offers like these.

It does hurt my depth some, but I feel like getting out of the Howard business now is a good idea. It's also a keeper league and I could keep Howard for a 7th next year, but also, Ajayi can be kept for a 6th. So, not too worried there. The piece I'm most worried about moving is Diggs. We've seen his ceiling and floor in the first 2 weeks. If Bradford is in and out all year, it could be more of his floor though.

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5 minutes ago, MattFancy said:

It does hurt my depth some, but I feel like getting out of the Howard business now is a good idea. It's also a keeper league and I could keep Howard for a 7th next year, but also, Ajayi can be kept for a 6th. So, not too worried there. The piece I'm most worried about moving is Diggs. We've seen his ceiling and floor in the first 2 weeks. If Bradford is in and out all year, it could be more of his floor though.

Ajayi is viewed as a top 10 back barring injury. 

Parker can fill Diggs shoes this season I think. Slam dunk trade. 

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Why can't most of you be in my dynasty leagues?

I can't get Buck Allen any where. Everyone wants a 2018 1st, or Golladay, or Allen and Eifert for Mixon. 

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3 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

Why can't most of you be in my dynasty leagues?

I can't get Buck Allen any where. Everyone wants a 2018 1st, or Golladay, or Allen and Eifert for Mixon. 

I would give a 2nd not a first. haha no way mixon. What?

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4 hours ago, Short Corner said:

Nothing wrong with the Mike Damone approach though.

Gotta have the attitude to pull off a trade like that.

The attitude dictates that you don't care whether Green comes, stays, lays, or prays. I mean whatever happens, Sanders's toes are still tappin'. Now when you got that, then you have the attitude.

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I got offered Hyde for Mixon and Tate...

I think I have to accept.... not sure if I should give White or Mixon in the deal though.....

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Since when? He's always been a downfield passer. Baltimore RBs have not had high receiving totals with Flacco under center.

Didn't Forsett have a decent amount of catches a couple years ago?

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Since when? He's always been a downfield passer. Baltimore RBs have not had high receiving totals with Flacco under center.

What?! How soon we forget Ray Rice. Dude caught a #### ton of balls.

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4 hours ago, TZMarkie said:

 

 Yet another robbery in this thread.

 

Do some of you guys have no shame?? :thumbup:

 J/K, good deal.

 

 

 TZM

Honestly I prefer Baldwin - but Sanders has a pretty good track record himself. He only was bad last season because Siemian was overmatched. If Siemian has truly turned the corner it's not crazy to think Sanders continues to outscore Baldwin. I wouldn't trade Baldwin for Sanders but I would not be offended by the offer.

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1 minute ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Honestly I prefer Baldwin - but Sanders has a pretty good track record himself. He only was bad last season because Siemian was overmatched. If Siemian has truly turned the corner it's not crazy to think Sanders continues to outscore Baldwin. I wouldn't trade Baldwin for Sanders but I would not be offended by the offer.

I have Baldwin higher, but you're right. If Siemian can keep up what he's been doing and stay more consistent, it's not crazy to think Sanders and Baldwin will finish near each other at the end of the year. I just have more faith in Wilson getting back on track than I do in Siemian keeping up his hot start.

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2 minutes ago, skycriesmary said:

What?! How soon we forget Ray Rice. Dude caught a #### ton of balls.

Yeah I guess I am wrong - Rice and Forsett did catch passes. I still think of Flacco as a downfield passer for the most part.

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Anyone have thoughts on this one?

I give Tate and my choice of Mixon or White -  I get Hyde.

If I don't swing a 2 for 1 deal - I'll be dropping Mixon or White Sunday for a D

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22 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Yeah I guess I am wrong - Rice and Forsett did catch passes. I still think of Flacco as a downfield passer for the most part.

One of the big selling points of Woodhead this year was the Ravens led the entire NFL in passes to RBs last year.

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1 minute ago, shadyridr said:

One of the big selling points of Woodhead this year was the Ravens led the entire NFL in passes to RBs last year.

I believe they lead the league in pass attempts overall.

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Well I made the trade anyways... Not sure If I'm buying low or selling high.

I got Carlos Hyde, Tyrell Williams - I gave Golden Tate, James White, Joe Mixon.

 

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I have the opportunity to move Cohen and Sanders for AJG.  Cohen is on my bench and Sanders is my flex so it looks like a pretty good trade.  Dalton has me worried though.

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I have the opportunity to move Cohen and Sanders for AJG.  Cohen is on my bench and Sanders is my flex so it looks like a pretty good trade.  Dalton has me worried though.

 

 If you are loaded at RB, then this is almost a FREE UPGRADE at flex.

AJ Green has come out and said they need to get him the ball more, and Dalton has always been the same QB. He will force feed Green, its just a matter of when. Sanders will have some good weeks here and there, but his ceiling is nowhere near as high as AJ Green.

If for some reason you don't have much RB depth (and you should have depth, since you are reading and posting on these boards) then if you feel like you may need Cohen at some point, it muddies it a little.

But if you have depth, I make this trade as soon as possible, and act quickly before the other owner changes his mind.

 People here forget AJ Green had over 1,000 receiving yards his first 6 seasons, and last year he had over 950 yards IN ONLY 9 GAMES

So far, Green has had 10 targets and 8 targets in weeks 1 and 2 respectively.

Point is, Dalton may be having a bit of trouble currently, but he has always had trouble here and there.  AJ Green will definitely be targeted.

 There might be a few odd scenarios I would rather have both Cohen/Sanders, but its few and far between and I would have to see your roster to possibly go that route.

 

 TZM

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21 hours ago, Gottabesweet said:

Anyone have thoughts on this one?

I give Tate and my choice of Mixon or White -  I get Hyde.

If I don't swing a 2 for 1 deal - I'll be dropping Mixon or White Sunday for a D

Depending on the scoring format (PPR/Std) and type of league (redraft / keeper/dynasty) and the makeup of the rosters, that could potentially be good for both sides.  

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20 hours ago, Gottabesweet said:

Well I made the trade anyways... Not sure If I'm buying low or selling high.

I got Carlos Hyde, Tyrell Williams - I gave Golden Tate, James White, Joe Mixon.

 

Gimme the Hyde side. I see this as Hyde for Tate/White 

fair deal both ways. If Mixon has value later it might tip the other way, but you're getting a feature back PPR beast who's basically matchup proof. 

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