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Just now, RenegadeRoy said:

Looks like the best pick-up in Seattle. Lacy looks fat.

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1 minute ago, RenegadeRoy said:

Looks like the best pick-up in Seattle. Lacy looks flat.

I'm 50/50 him or prosise (who is available in a lot of places) the guy catching the passes is the one I want on this team. It's a mess. I'd rather pick my poisom with the Vikings or something

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18 minutes ago, loser said:

:lol: Sure. Why wouldn't you draft the fourth running back on the depth chart of a team with a known (I assume knowledgeable people knew) crappy offensive line; being a seventh round pick before week one. Seems legit.

agree here. I get grabbing Proise or Rawls instead of Lacy, but anybody who grabbed Carson is in 30-man roster leagues or something

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12 minutes ago, modogg said:

agree here. I get grabbing Proise or Rawls instead of Lacy, but anybody who grabbed Carson is in 30-man roster leagues or something

I drafted him in a 12 teamer in the 15th. 

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Just now, Insein said:

I drafted him in a 12 teamer in the 15th. 

hmm, well nice grab. i was suckered into Marlon Mack i think around there, did drop him before the season for Tarik Cohen though :bowtie:

now if only Jon Fox can fall down a well until the fantasy season is over, we will be good

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23 minutes ago, The Frankman said:

 

Not really true... Murray will get early down/goal line work, McKinnon 3rd down/passing down. There's no way McKinnon starts IMHO.

Which goes to my point. 

Middling talent plus weak offensive line plus a split in touches doesn't lead to a wow.

If you're in deep leagues or need a body, go nuts. Otherwise...meh.

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1 minute ago, modogg said:

hmm, well nice grab. i was suckered into Marlon Mack i think around there, did drop him before the season for Tarik Cohen though :bowtie:

now if only Jon Fox can fall down a well until the fantasy season is over, we will be good

Yea drafted Cohen and Carson 14th and 15th. Sucks about Carson though.

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Ugh, first bye week and the only guy I need to manage is Lutz. Short benches on my team mean I will need to drop someone of value, and hard to drop Lutz outright as he's been gold this year and will likely continue to be. 

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Good luck figuring out that Seattle RB situation.

I hope to go Kroft this week.

If you don't need him next week Hooper is widely available and with Jones and Sanu getting banged up might be a decent TE grab.

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8 hours ago, Insein said:

I've found that most of big pickups I already drafted or snagged 2 weeks early on speculation. But they haven't been season changers yet.

Reading down this thread but Watson isn't? 

I mean he hasn't yet of course, but he has to have the biggest upside by far to be a season changer.  

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1 hour ago, beerbuff said:

If you don't need him next week Hooper is widely available and with Jones and Sanu getting banged up might be a decent TE grab.

Hooper's target totals: 2 > 2 > 2 > 7

Ryan has to throw to someone.

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6 hours ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Ugh, first bye week and the only guy I need to manage is Lutz. Short benches on my team mean I will need to drop someone of value, and hard to drop Lutz outright as he's been gold this year and will likely continue to be. 

Really?  Short bench, and I would not even think twice about dropping a kicker.  He is not that good - ranked 4th in our league - and the difference between 2nd and 13th ranked kicker is 8 points.

I'd keep a mediocre position player over a kicker any day - particularly with a short-bench, and with all the bye weeks coming up.

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7 hours ago, modogg said:

agree here. I get grabbing Proise or Rawls instead of Lacy, but anybody who grabbed Carson is in 30-man roster leagues or something

Just not true; he was drafted in both my leagues of 16 & 17 man rosters.   He was sniped before I could grab him in one.  Based on preseason performance, question marks with all the other RBs, and the luster of a young player with promise - plus Carroll's willingness to play his best guy put him on a lot of radars.

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9 hours ago, Sandeman said:

Andre Ellington if available, particularly if PPR.

I think he's gonna be a good play until Johnson returns

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20 minutes ago, Gandalf said:

Rawls is on my waiver wire - just lost Cook. Is rawls worth a flier? 

I would think so, otherwise you're gonna miss his running.

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8 hours ago, Hilts said:

Which goes to my point. 

Middling talent plus weak offensive line plus a split in touches doesn't lead to a wow.

If you're in deep leagues or need a body, go nuts. Otherwise...meh.

Honestly, this sounds exactly like Carsons situation..bad O line...mega touch split, and people went ape-poop for him...

In the NFL , opportunity is the MOST important thing

 

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13 minutes ago, JIMGET said:

Honestly, this sounds exactly like Carsons situation..bad O line...mega touch split, and people went ape-poop for him...

In the NFL , opportunity is the MOST important thing

 

Carson clearly had won the bulk of the work (or was about to) when people were going bananas. That's not the case in Minnesota. 

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1 hour ago, pantherclub said:

If you are having to actually start Lacy as a RB then I would venture to guess you team and season is pretty much shot.

I’m looking at 4-0...my RBs are Gordon and then a pile of mostly garbage right now... (Crowell, Ingram, Perine, Charles...and Carson who just went down)

Ill be likely picking up two from the WW pile hoping to hit in one for a bit before probably having to do the same.

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2 hours ago, need2know said:

Ugh Rawls or Lacy?  Both available in my league...lol

I have this same dilemma after losing Carson.  I am leaning towards Rawls (non-PPR).  He has at least had success in that system whereas Lacy has not. 

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1 hour ago, pantherclub said:

If you are having to actually start Lacy as a RB then I would venture to guess you team and season is pretty much shot.

With guys going down left and right, I would disagree with this statement.

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In my PPR short bench league, I feel like these are my options and how I'm thinking of my choices having lost a RB (Carson) this week myself:

Powell > Kamara > Ellington > Duke Johnson > Smallwood > Gallman > Whoever Seattle decides to play

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6 minutes ago, OldMilwaukee said:

Charles Clay TE Buf

Great game yesterday, Jordon Mathews now out a month.  

Now the  No. 1 Option for Tyrod Taylor

Zay Jones should see an uptick in targets as well, although I'm not sure that he's ready for prime time yet.

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Anyone looking at TEs? There are surprisingly some good ones available in my 16-teamer. I've been using Watson while Eifert is out, and he's been fine, but thinking Engram or ASJ might be better options.

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There's a lot going on here, a redraft list might be helpful, and yes a lot of these guys are typically owned... in no order...

 

Watson

Luck

Goff

Murray / McKinnon

Lacy / Rawls / McKissic / Prosise

Kamara

Gallman

Collins

Kroft

Hooper

Clay

Engram

Zay Jones / Holmes

McGuire

Ellington

Clement

McFadden

ASJ

 

 

 

Edited by SaintsInDome2006
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Jamal Charles is available in a large bench league I have.  He looked pretty good with his few touches this week.  CJ Anderson is always banged up.  I'm not spending much BB money on him, but I'm going to try to pick him up.  

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18 minutes ago, zamboni said:

With guys going down left and right, I would disagree with this statement.

what realistically do you think Lacy can give you? 

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14 minutes ago, pantherclub said:

what realistically do you think Lacy can give you? 

A headache. Maybe some reflux. 

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9 hours ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Ugh, first bye week and the only guy I need to manage is Lutz. Short benches on my team mean I will need to drop someone of value, and hard to drop Lutz outright as he's been gold this year and will likely continue to be. 

Let him go. It's so unlikely to be a difference maker. FWIW I picked him up before Week 1 and love his consistency, but not worth hanging onto IMO.

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5 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

Let him go. It's so unlikely to be a difference maker. FWIW I picked him up before Week 1 and love his consistency, but not worth hanging onto IMO.

Agree. I'm not against holding a K through his bye, but only if there's no one good in the WW. Otherwise, I'll take my chances and hope to get him back on the flipside.

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44 minutes ago, pantherclub said:

what realistically do you think Lacy can give you? 

Probably not much, but a starting RB (assuming he assumes that role again) still has some value when there are fewer and fewer bellcows left.

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7 minutes ago, zamboni said:

Probably not much, but a starting RB (assuming he assumes that role again) still has some value when there are fewer and fewer bellcows left.

This is a fair point. He has value. A RB getting the start should be rostered. Frank Gore looks terrible but he's rostered in competitive leagues. Lacy has a better YPC than him- looked good vs IND who has been actually quite good against this run this year so far. 

I barked up that tree once, not going back. Although, if I had a longer bench I would likely take a stab. Everyone will be going after others after some bad injuries this week, Lacy could be a sneakier play that would cost less FAAB.

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A note on Aaron Jones.  I am surprised he is not getting more mention in here.  I think GB was looking for a way to limit Ty Mont touches even before he got hurt.  Now Aaron Jones proved he is likely a better play than Jamaal Williams even if they are both healthy, and note that Williams got hurt.

So if Williams and TyMont miss wk 5 (I realize they have been optimistic on TyMont since the game but we will see), Aaron Jones becomes a top 5 RB play for week 5 against Dallas.  Then he has probably moved ahead of Williams as an extremely valuable lottery ticket.  And lastly I say he gets flex level touches even when Ty Mont plays simply because Jones looked good when he was in.

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4 minutes ago, Buck Bradcanon said:

PSA: JD McKissic is a WR on CBS site.  Not sure on other sites..  Kindof a Ty Mont situation.

He's a RB on ESPN.

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1 minute ago, Buck Bradcanon said:

A note on Aaron Jones.  I am surprised he is not getting more mention in here.  I think GB was looking for a way to limit Ty Mont touches even before he got hurt.  Now Aaron Jones proved he is likely a better play than Jamaal Williams even if they are both healthy, and note that Williams got hurt.

So if Williams and TyMont miss wk 5 (I realize they have been optimistic on TyMont since the game but we will see), Aaron Jones becomes a top 5 RB play for week 5 against Dallas.  Then he has probably moved ahead of Williams as an extremely valuable lottery ticket.  And lastly I say he gets flex level touches even when Ty Mont plays simply because Jones looked good when he was in.

Fill-in RBs on GB have not been top 5 players, historically.

Heck the starting RB on GB has not been a top 5 player very often under McCarthy.  Not when you can give it to Rodgers and let him throw all day.

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5 minutes ago, davearm said:

Fill-in RBs on GB have not been top 5 players, historically.

Heck the starting RB on GB has not been a top 5 player very often under McCarthy.  Not when you can give it to Rodgers and let him throw all day.

Point taken.  I confess to hyberbole there.

If he doesn't have to share though for one week, and seeing what RBs have done to Dallas, how about top 15 anyway. 

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Adam Levitan‏Verified account @adamlevitan  5m5 minutes ago

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20-year-old Juju Smith-Schuster has been in on 75% of the total snaps and 89% of Big Ben's dropbacks over the last two weeks.

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14 minutes ago, Buck Bradcanon said:

Point taken.  I confess to hyberbole there.

If he doesn't have to share though for one week, and seeing what RBs have done to Dallas, how about top 15 anyway. 

I was curious enough about this to fire up the data dominator.  Since 2015, here are how many top 5 RB weeks each NFL team has produced:

ARI    12
ATL    10
BAL    3
BUF    8
CAR    5
CHI    10
CIN    6
CLE    3
DAL    9
DEN    7
DET    3
GB    5
HOU    6
IND    1
JAX    2
KC    11
LAR    6
MIA    6
MIN    7
NE    8
NO    4
NYG    3
NYJ    8
OAK    3
PHI    3
PIT    14
SD    6
SEA    5
SF    4
TB    3
TEN    4
WAS    6

Now back to your regularly scheduled WW pickups discussion.

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1 hour ago, pantherclub said:

what realistically do you think Lacy can give you? 

As many points as Crowell or Ingram?  If he is getting the carries vs. Rawls.  I mean, at this point with the injuries...that is what some people are looking at.

 

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29 minutes ago, Sir Psycho said:

Adam Levitan‏Verified account @adamlevitan  5m5 minutes ago

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20-year-old Juju Smith-Schuster has been in on 75% of the total snaps and 89% of Big Ben's dropbacks over the last two weeks.

Eli Rogers was a healthy scratch yesterday.  I think JuJu has surpassed him on the depth chart

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1 minute ago, Godsbrother said:

Eli Rogers was a healthy scratch yesterday.  I think JuJu has surpassed him on the depth chart

How has Martavis Bryan looked?  Any chance JuJu surpasses Bryant in the pecking order this season?

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