KarmaPolice
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Let's move on from this past crap week where teams forgot to use their stud RBs and make some money.
He got priced up to TE5 this week.Snorkelson said:Asj vs pats will likely be my cheap look for te. Engram should get Big uptick in targets, Lewis is a nice cheap wr as well. I’m likely using Hopkins again. Powell for Gpp after he burned everyone last week?
Lots of qb options in the 7000-8000 range, Watson vs Cleveland will be owned a lot in cash I bet. Mccown super cheap vs pats might be a good get right game for the pats defense. I might pass on that one. Give me Alex smith every week until he hits 8000.
Reminder to self: don’t go lineup crazy and donkey off the week of winnings.
Gurley has been solid thus far, so one week isn’t going to scare too many off imo vs a jags defense that you can really only run against. I don’t know what to make of Pittsburgh.It would not surprise me if the same two RBs that let us all down last week (Bell, Gurley) were the top of the heap this week.
Maybe their coaches learned something? I do not think that they will have much ownership this week.
Just a thought for contrarian ownership.
For sure. Gpp plays can be the shot in the dark guy that pans out, but most of the time it seems like when I look at stuff it's more on the the lines of the talented guys that that have been slumping or have a bad matchup and people pass them over (or as you point out - somebody that burned a lot of people the week before).It would not surprise me if the same two RBs that let us all down last week (Bell, Gurley) were the top of the heap this week.
Maybe their coaches learned something? I do not think that they will have much ownership this week.
Just a thought for contrarian ownership.
TB is one of the 4 teams that have averaged giving up 7 recs and 55yds/g to rbs. The others are NO (Riddick?), SF (C.Thompson?), and Atl (don't think MIa has a rb worth rostering for that).Elijah McGuire looks like he may get most/all of the work this week. Intriguing cheap play to think about. I also will throw Ellington in another lineup, I’ll take the 9 catch weeks and hope for a td.
What aren't you in love with in the LU?My placeholder...
Watson - Gordon/Fournette - Diggs/Fitz/M. Jones - Brate - Lutz - Was
Not in love with this. I had a real tough time filling in the line up.
WRs in particular. Not sure I can trust Jones, although the match up seems ripe. I originally tried to work Golden Tate in. Obviously, the advantage of Jones is the price break. Fitz gives me pause as well. Outside that Dallas game, he has been rather pedestrian against some fairly weak pass defenses. He is no lock to hit value. Brate is playing well, but he is one of those names I always have a mental hang up with and rarely pull the trigger...no logical reason for this. Washington was just a fill in that cost the same price as the money I had left...will need to re-evaluate defenses. The ones I like are ones that would require paying up for (Den, Hou, Atl)What aren't you in love with in the LU?
Yeah, you are probably right here. However, it was hard enough getting a LU together I liked while paying down at TE, K, and D.Snorkelson said:I think I’ll be paying up this week for defense. Hard not to like the broncos, Eli has no line, no WRs, no rb, no mobility.
Cheap options at wr and rb, the cheap (Bad team) defenses are in bad spots this week. I think there are some decent options in the 5500-7000 range at both spotsYeah, you are probably right here. However, it was hard enough getting a LU together I liked while paying down at TE, K, and D.
I am stubborn and really like the Hunt/Fournette combo for cash. I will have to look at WR options maybe.Cheap options at wr and rb, the cheap (Bad team) defenses are in bad spots this week. I think there are some decent options in the 5500-7000 range at both spots
I know it's just my mental block for cash, but I start doing the player comparison game and the higher $ Rbs usually win out. I start thinking would I rather pay 9k for a player who touches the ball 25x a game and gets 3-4 red zone opps, or 9K for a player who sees 12 targets a game and 1 red zone opp?Very early but place holder for me.
Watson Howard/Kamara AB/Hopkins/Cobb Walker Gosk Atl.
Watson.... Looks to good to be true lol. Seriously though this game could be a blowout and a lot of running the 2nd half. Qb is a tough one for me this week. I like Cousins and Newton in this price range also.
RB... Hard to not go chalk here. Fournette, Hunt, Bell and Gurley are solid solid plays. Just like Howard against Balt. and Kamara is going to get plenty of touches specially in the passing game.
Not huge on Cobb but for now until I see something better he's it.
TE I just don't see value anywhere.
Want to pay up for Denver and will most likely grab a cheaper kicker for it.
Thoughts?
He was back before the bye, but was a healthy scratch. Kind of odd.Willie Snead is finally back and only $5,600 against a DET secondary that I saw snoozing more than once last week against Cam.
Then again I probably convinced a couple of you to go all in on Gurley last week (my apologies), so take it with a grain of salt.
Agreed, in part. Still going to swap out Miller as he is a negative correlation to Hopkins, which I didn't catch on my first run through. There's some good value in the 6800 - 7200 range at RB. Leaning Doug Martin, but might pivot to Aaron Jones if Ty is ruled out.I do worry about L.Miller a bit. Browns haven't won any games, but they still seem to hold their opponents to really low yds/g on the ground.
I like Howard at that range for gpps.Agreed, in part. Still going to swap out Miller as he is a negative correlation to Hopkins, which I didn't catch on my first run through. There's some good value in the 6800 - 7200 range at RB. Leaning Doug Martin, but might pivot to Aaron Jones if Ty is ruled out.
So do I, but that would require swapping out Baltimore's DST....That's what makes this so fun and frustrating at the same time!I like Howard at that range for gpps.
Ah, didn't catch your PK and D.So do I, but that would require swapping out Baltimore's DST....That's what makes this so fun and frustrating at the same time!
Snead was out with a Hamstring. Not a healthy scratch. I like Snead but the combo of hammy and rust... Tough to pull the trigger.Tommy Collins said:He was back before the bye, but was a healthy scratch. Kind of odd.
Not a fan of Balt. Defense. I wouldn't let that hold me up.Titans_fan said:So do I, but that would require swapping out Baltimore's DST....That's what makes this so fun and frustrating at the same time!
No you are correct. It is rare for me to not go heavy at RB. I made a ton last year on Bell and DJ (sometimes together). It's almost always easier to find a $6000 wr vs RB. Even after getting stuck on Powell last week I really feel Howard and Kamara will hold 2X value floor with a nice ceiling.I know it's just my mental block for cash, but I start doing the player comparison game and the higher $ Rbs usually win out. I start thinking would I rather pay 9k for a player who touches the ball 25x a game and gets 3-4 red zone opps, or 9K for a player who sees 12 targets a game and 1 red zone opp?
This might be the week to do it with guys like McKinnon and McGuire on the cheap, but I have been burned more times playing guys like AB and Julio in cash than I have Bell and Hunt.
KarmaPolice said:And damn that AP trade. I really liked Kamara this week as a gpp play, but all I hear on podcasts is talk about him and Ingram so I think that will be more popular that I wanted.
I think it's a multitude of factors. High total, home team for starters. I do think a bit has to do with the AP news and people thinking about them more now. Problem is, AP wasn't really taking much from them anyway and Ingram and Kamara's touches were going up. In the end, he is a cheap back that could touch the ball 20 times and gets RZ looks. Maybe people think he is a good gpp pivot from what would be a chalkier McKinnon and a way to get a piece of the highest o/u on the week?And there's something there that I'm not getting. I just looked at the ownership projection page and Ingram is slotted at 22% - what for? I don't get the popularity because he's never been a stud even before AP came along. Sure, he's had a few good games here and there, but, they've been the exception with him, not the rule. I've bought into the hype with him far to many times and got burned.
DET's run defense is only giving up 71 YPG through 5 weeks & only three rushing TD's. Yes, they've also given up nearly 300 yds through the air as well, but, only one passing TD to the RB position - and the passing downs would be Kamara's anyway, wouldn't it?
Somebody help me out here - what's the attraction w/ Ingram?
Just seems to me like Kamara's done more with his touches than Ingram, and at $100 less, I'd think he'd be more popular - although, his projected ownership is high as well. I guess it probably sounds like I'm complaining that Ingrams ownership is projected as high as it is, and I'm not; I'm just trying to understand why because history suggests that he's not going to come close to hitting tournament value, even with the 20 touches, which I'm not sure he gets. There has to be something more. But I do agree on the other guys; will definitely try to work them in.I think it's a multitude of factors. High total, home team for starters. I do think a bit has to do with the AP news and people thinking about them more now. Problem is, AP wasn't really taking much from them anyway and Ingram and Kamara's touches were going up. In the end, he is a cheap back that could touch the ball 20 times and gets RZ looks. Maybe people think he is a good gpp pivot from what would be a chalkier McKinnon and a way to get a piece of the highest o/u on the week?
But if he is going to be higher owned than guys like Freeman, CJA, Howard, etc.. sign me up for all of those other guys.
I think also there is some td regression, as he has seen his touches go up each game and hasn't gotten a td yet.Just seems to me like Kamara's done more with his touches than Ingram, and at $100 less, I'd think he'd be more popular - although, his projected ownership is high as well. I guess it probably sounds like I'm complaining that Ingrams ownership is projected as high as it is, and I'm not; I'm just trying to understand why because history suggests that he's not going to come close to hitting tournament value, even with the 20 touches, which I'm not sure he gets. There has to be something more. But I do agree on the other guys; will definitely try to work them in.
In theory, sure. We make decisions on RBs all the time looking at somebody getting 15 carries a game and somebody getting 20+. APs touches were the rushing touches, so I think the reasoning is that those would go more to Ingram. Even if it's 50/50, that puts Ingram up to 20 touches and still rec targets, which would put him in the elite tier on paper. Also factoring in when I listen and read things is Det's DT being hurt too, maybe opening success to the rushing as well. I do agree with you 100% on the pivots though if you don't buy into this on the week. Det DVOA to rb-rec is 3, so Kamara might not have quite the success as we might think. Others not getting talked about are White and C.Thompson too.Everyone rushing in to play Ingram and kamara with AP gone, I think there are better options. Is 10 touches between the two going to change that much? The lions have played pretty solid defense up to last week, and credit cam with getting into form for dismantling them and the Carolina defense for getting to Stafford a bunch. I don’t see New Orleans doing that, and while everyone sees shootout, I see Detroit trying to control time of possession and the defense tackles better.
My opinion is if you want to get a piece of NO here try fleener- Det has given up decent games to tes this year. For Gpp anyway he’s worth a look. I think I like McGuire over Ingram and Ellington over kamara if you want the rec.
Really? I never saw that reported. What I saw was a healthy scratch. Odd.Snead was out with a Hamstring. Not a healthy scratch. I like Snead but the combo of hammy and rust... Tough to pull the trigger.