KarmaPolice
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Did my usual Monday morning glance at games and pts allowed, so we might as well fire up the discussion.
Pretty much my list too. There are studs that should be in play every week in one format or another despite matchup like Brown, Brady, Gronk, Ertz, Kecle, etc..Guys on my early radar:
QB: Wentz, Rivers, Dak, Cam, & Dalton
RB: Blount/Smallwood, Mixon, Elloitt, McCaffrey, Bell, McCoy, Gordon, Kamara, & Abdullah
WR: Allen/Ty Will, Benjamin/Funchess, AJG/Ross, Julio, Dez, Evans, Hogan, Jeffery/Agholor/Smith
TE: Cook, Witten, O'Leary, Kroft, Griffin, Hunter, & Reed
D: Eagles, Bengals, Saints, & Bills
K: Bullock
I like Cousins, but I am done trying to figure out his weapons. He is a naked only play for me, until a reliable target emerges. I never get the NE RB right, so unless they are in one of those small two game slate situations I just avoid them all. I think I am switching to Kamara this week, instead of Ingram. It's still early and my initial leans always change.KarmaPolice said:Pretty much my list too. There are studs that should be in play every week in one format or another despite matchup like Brown, Brady, Gronk, Ertz, Kecle, etc..
My list:
QB - all the same as yours, but I also had Cousins on there. Wentz is the early leader for cash QB.
RB - Again, pretty much the same as yours above. The two teams that looked to have the best OL vs. DL matchup on the week were NE (I will probably try Lewis again in gpps), and NO. Early cash leaders here are Bell and Ingram.
WR - The one matchup that looked decent not on your list are the Wash WRs vs. Dallas. Will be watching tonight to see how they spread the ball around and if any of these guys are viable - maybe Doctson at 5.2? AJG seems like a good start for cash games, and then not sure what value we can find after that - maybe Benjamin/Doctson/Garcon/Jeffrey?
TE - Agree with yours (didn't have Reed on my list), and like I said studs like Ertz, Gronk, Kelce are always play, and it seems AS-J catches TDs every week too.
D - using what I looked at last week to land me on Rams/Bears/Chargers for Sunday, I wrote down Cinci and Pitts this week, but will look again after the updated stats for the OL/DLs come out on Weds. Maybe NE D if we think they are starting to come around based on how much LaC passes, but they also have the 2nd best OL as far as lowest sack rate too.
PK- didn't look yet except to notice that there are less and less options cheaper than 4.8K each week.
ATL is a team that has decent matchups for all 4 offensive spots, but something just seems broken with them. Could be as simple as the new OC. They have too much talent to not blow up sometime, but probably just worth a look as gpp fliers?
The TNF game made me throw up in my mouth a little, so mine is:My stab in the dark for mon-thu is...
Wentz-Allen-Thompson-Jeffery-Agholor-Doctson-Ertz-Parkay-Ravens
This is standing on 86.92 with Allen, PArkay, and the Ravens left. Barely above the cut line.My stab in the dark for mon-thu is...
Wentz-Allen-Thompson-Jeffery-Agholor-Doctson-Ertz-Parkay-Ravens
Weren't those always on there?IVC added a Value and a H-Value column
Right there with you at 88.12. I just have Ravens and Ajayi left.This is standing on 86.92 with Allen, PArkay, and the Ravens left. Barely above the cut line.
I thought I had read somewhere they were overhauling the entire IVC for this year. I knew it wasn't going to be ready week one, but I thought it was coming soon after. Anyone else see something like that?Weren't those always on there?
Looked different to me this morning, but I could not put my finger on it.IVC added a Value and a H-Value column
Sorting by H-Value will help you construct cash LUsNm, I see what you guts are talking about.
One thing I really wish you could do on the ivc is a difference b/t a cash and gpp LU.
I get that, and I do use that. Small gripe, but just feel like I am doing a bit of the work with the IVC vs. them doing the work for something that's part of a paid package. Just wish there was a quick button to flip between their plays for cash/gpps maybe base some gpp rankings to correlate with the ownership % projections? (I also realize that the sites that do offer that are probably $30+/month, not the $20 for the season, so it might just not be reasonable on their end and still keep the costs down).Sorting by H-Value will help you construct cash LUs
I'm confused, how have you used that when it just showed up today?I get that, and I do use that.
There was always a link in the past right above the ivc to switch between points, value, and h-value, it just looks like it's now altogether in the ivc.I'm confused, how have you used that when it just showed up today?
Well I'll be dammed, I never even noticed thatThere was always a link in the past right above the ivc to switch between points, value, and h-value, it just looks like it's now altogether in the ivc.
When they add DD and MT projections the links should move back.Well I'll be dammed, I never even noticed that
Feel the same way about money feeling like it's not enough this week. Totally agree on wentz as the chalk cash play at qb as well.My placeholder cash line up...
Wentz - McCoy/Howard - Green/Allen/Agholor - Witten - Bullock - Pittsburgh
Really seems like my salary dollars aren't going too far this week. I keep thinking I should have more money available. I think Wentz is the clear cash game chalk...would be hard to not use him. I tried to get McCoy and Gordon in the line up together, but I just couldn't find the cash and my WRs were awful. Howard was $1k cheaper. Not excited about Witten, Bullock and Pittsburgh, but they were cheap options. Bullock should be alright at home...I think Indy has been a good match up for kickers. I am surprised Pittsburgh was only $4400. There are more attractive D's out there (I like Philly, Cincy, and NO), but the chance to save a few hundred there seemed like the right thing to do as all the D's seem to be a crap shoot from week to week.
I love Doctson as he is representing my Alma Mater, but I couldn't possibly use him in a cash game right now...What does he get 3 targets a game? I just don't know that he gets enough opportunity. I guess he got a couple more targets against Philly, but not enough for me to consider in a cash game.Feel the same way about money feeling like it's not enough this week. Totally agree on wentz as the chalk cash play at qb as well.
Liking Doug Martin to pair with McCoy (or bell or Elliot) this week for cash. He is getting feature back touches against a shaky Carolina D. Hyde could have a big day receiving. Playing catch up seems like that game script against philly and dump offs will most likely be the majority of their plays against that front 4
WR - liking funchess, Keenan Allen, AJ green, Doug Baldwin, but that will change. Doctson for one of my cheap options in a potential shootout with Dallas.
TE - ertz Kelce or gronk on the high end if I go weaker at WR. Hunter henry or witten on the cheaper side. GPP play for me is kittle. Philly losing hicks will hurt, but that pass rush is the best in the league, quick outs the TE and RB make sense
k- rose and Novak at 4500 in high scoring games
Def - linking Pitt too. Keep Dallas in mind as well. They have a solid pass rush and the skins just lost a whole bunch of OL
Just curious on your fade take with Ingram and Mixon. Ingram was in cash consideration for me, and Mixon was on my gpp list. Also thought Zeke was in a good matchup as well.Trying to simplify / limit player pool for RBs in GPP...thoughts?
Best Plays (heavy exposure)
Bell (at Detroit), McCoy (vs Oakland), Chris Thompson (vs Dallas), Blount (vs SanFran)
Will be widely owned and disappoint (fade)
Hunt (vs Denver), Ingram/Kamara (vs Chicago), Freeman/Coleman (at Jets), Mixon/Hill/Gio (vs Indy)
So So Plays (match or fade)
Fournette / Cohen (at Nawlins), White (vs LAC), West (Denver), Elliot (at Wash), RKelly (vs Dallas), Mcaffree (at Tampa)
Gordon is one of may favorite plays this week.Trying to simplify / limit player pool for RBs in GPP...thoughts?
Best Plays (heavy exposure)
Bell (at Detroit), McCoy (vs Oakland), Chris Thompson (vs Dallas), Blount (vs SanFran)
Will be widely owned and disappoint (fade)
Hunt (vs Denver), Ingram/Kamara (vs Chicago), Freeman/Coleman (at Jets), Mixon/Hill/Gio (vs Indy)
So So Plays (match or fade)
Howard / Cohen (at Nawlins), White (vs LAC), West (Denver), Elliot (at Wash), RKelly (vs Dallas), Mcaffree (at Tampa)
I'm probably in the minority not calling Ingram a best play....
I worry that rbbc will impact Mixon's value, and I like a big passing day from the red rifle. Ingram is a yellow light because of Chicago's recent prowess. Zeke is an "ok" matchup but I fear Washington is underappreciated and must beat Dallas at home. Philly beat Dallas with the passing game, and I like Cousins to do the same (Reed may be waking up...and I LOVE Chris Thompson here).Just curious on your fade take with Ingram and Mixon. Ingram was in cash consideration for me, and Mixon was on my gpp list. Also thought Zeke was in a good matchup as well.
I also like Zeke. I was not on Ingram this week, but everyone else is, so of course I am second guessing. Why is everyone on him? I assume it's because of the preceived volume. Has Chicago been that bad against the run? I like Mixon as GPP only, but nothing more. I don't think he will get enough touches to blow up. I also think the Colts have struggled with pass catching backs, which leans more to Gio.Just curious on your fade take with Ingram and Mixon. Ingram was in cash consideration for me, and Mixon was on my gpp list. Also thought Zeke was in a good matchup as well.
I mistakenly left Gordon off my "So So" list....I think he generates points in this matchup moreso on receptions than rushes...and Rivers will spread it around. Although I'm not sold on NE having "fixed" its secondary, the real situation in NE also includes recent improvements in the front 7 not just "better communication in the secondary"....so I wouldn't call Rivers a great cash play....more worth some exposure in GPP.Gordon is one of may favorite plays this week.
Outside of a big day by McKinnon and the Vikings the Bears have kept RBs bottled up for the most part. I think the general public looks at a big day from Ingram as a foregone conclusion...I'll probably have some Ingram but low relative to ownership rate...I also like Zeke. I was not on Ingram this week, but everyone else is, so of course I am second guessing. Why is everyone on him? I assume it's because of the preceived volume. Has Chicago been that bad against the run? I like Mixon as GPP only, but nothing more. I don't think he will get enough touches to blow up. I also think the Colts have struggled with pass catching backs, which leans more to Gio.
I love Bell and McCoy, but Gordon gives a decent little savings. If something doesn't change my mind I will stacking Rivers and Gordon at least once.I mistakenly left Gordon off my "So So" list....I think he generates points in this matchup moreso on receptions than rushes...and Rivers will spread it around. Although I'm not sold on NE having "fixed" its secondary, the real situation in NE also includes recent improvements in the front 7 not just "better communication in the secondary"....so I wouldn't call Rivers a great cash play....more worth some exposure in GPP.
I will also under own. My numbers showed it as tough matchup for Ingram, but I need to dig a little deeper.Outside of a big day by McKinnon and the Vikings the Bears have kept RBs bottled up for the most part. I think the general public looks at a big day from Ingram as a foregone conclusion...I'll probably have some Ingram but low relative to ownership rate...
I agree with this. I just think there's a chance that Blount could go OFF this week against SF at home. Gordon is a better cash play, but I only play GPPs.I love Bell and McCoy, but Gordon gives a decent little savings. If something doesn't change my mind I will stacking Rivers and Gordon at least once.
I will be under owned on Blount, but he has a prime matchup.I agree with this. I just think there's a chance that Blount could go OFF this week against SF at home. Gordon is a better cash play, but I only play GPPs.
Custom points allowed in the Week 8 subscription area is my source. Without quoting all the numbers ~30 fantasy points allowed to Vikings RBs, ~23 to Ravens, and in five other games average points to RBs about 15 (such info is also available for free on the web if you look around).I will also under own. My numbers showed it as tough matchup for Ingram, but I need to dig a little deeper.
Isn't the concensus that Norman will be back? Anyway, I'm ok with Dak I'm just not in love with the situation for Dez. Jeffery was 2 for 37 even though Wentz blew up vs Wash.If Norman is out do we love Dez? I was surprised he was not ranked higher this week.
I had him on my list for a few reasons:I also like Zeke. I was not on Ingram this week, but everyone else is, so of course I am second guessing. Why is everyone on him? I assume it's because of the preceived volume. Has Chicago been that bad against the run? I like Mixon as GPP only, but nothing more. I don't think he will get enough touches to blow up. I also think the Colts have struggled with pass catching backs, which leans more to Gio.
Hint- Dallas is statistically pretty bad vs. the TE.I like Cousins, but I am done trying to figure out his weapons. He is a naked only play for me, until a reliable target emerges. I never get the NE RB right, so unless they are in one of those small two game slate situations I just avoid them all. I think I am switching to Kamara this week, instead of Ingram. It's still early and my initial leans always change.
And Reed had a pretty good game against the Eagles, granted, after Jordan Hicks got hurt.Hint- Dallas is statistically pretty bad vs. the TE.
I'm only seeing the same old Points / Value / H-Value links in the line above the position links. Where are these new Value and a H-Value columns?There was always a link in the past right above the ivc to switch between points, value, and h-value, it just looks like it's now altogether in the ivc.
They were there when it was just MT's projections. I think they move up to where they normally are when Dodds and Bloom get theirs in the IVC too.I'm only seeing the same old Points / Value / H-Value links in the line above the position links. Where are these new Value and a H-Value columns?
I like Reed and am on him. I assume a lot of others will be also, after Monday night. I was thinking more about not trying to figure out their WR.KarmaPolice said:Hint- Dallas is statistically pretty bad vs. the TE.