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Washington at Seattle (1 Viewer)
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VikingFrog
Footballguy
Fumble being credited to Perine. Was that not dropped directly by Cousins?
dgreen
Footballguy
Perine never had possession so it might change to Cousins. It was Perine’s fault, though.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
It's Cousins fumble but that's 1000% on Perine.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
The two weeks I have Cousins, he plays in two rainstorms.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Bad call on that replay of the Int... If that contact had jarred the ball loose would it be a fumble? No. It would have been incomplete. Therefore that shouldn't have been ruled a tackle.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
dgreen
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
If you don't think NFL is rigged after that spot and refs try to help certain teams out then I cannot help you...
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
hmm, hadn't realized seahawks had signed freeney (obviously long passed his prime but still interesting)
dgreen
Footballguy
Another episode of bad clock management by Gruden. He should have run on first down to start the clock running. I don’t think Seattle would have called a t.o. then. Instead, incomplete pass stops the clock, then sack on 2nd down with a Seattle timeout leads to a lot of time for the Seahawks. Luckily, it didn’t hurt them though.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Not just roughing the passer on Seattle on that last penalty, but a two-handed facemask on the center by the same player.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Wow, terrible call for WAS to throw a pass well short of the first down line.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Totally the right no-call - can’t call a penalty on a player making a play and finishing the tackle.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
WHAT A BAD PASS.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Wait, so WAS would only have scored 2 and not 6 off of an intercepted 2 pt conversion taken back the other way to the house?
Does the D only make 3 points when a FG is blocked and taken all the way back for a defensive TD? No.
Weird discrepancy.
Does the D only make 3 points when a FG is blocked and taken all the way back for a defensive TD? No.
Weird discrepancy.
The Frankman
Footballguy
What crack are the refs on? Cousins is down.
renesauz
IBL Representative
No it isn't. A FG can be faked and the Offense can still score 6. The offense can ONLY score 2 points on the point after try
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
And you don't get 0 when you block a punt and return it for a TD, nor do you get 1 when you block a PAT and run it back.
It has nothing to do with what the offense is going for. It's the difference between a live ball and a point(s) after attempt.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Not really, since its literally impossible to score a TD as the team going for 2, but its possible to score a TD when you are going for a FG.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Ah good points @renesauz and @FreeBaGeL, thanks.
Assume a PAT block and returned to the other end is only 1 for the D, then.
Assume a PAT block and returned to the other end is only 1 for the D, then.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
It is 2 points.
Like I said it has nothing to do with what the offense is attempting. In point after scenarios a "TD" is worth 2 points and a kick through the uprights is worth 1. In live ball scenarios a TD is worth 6 points and a kick through the uprights is worth 3. Doesn't matter whether the offense is kicking or snapping from under center.
I think that's still 2, in the same way that the offense fumbling the PAT snap and running it in is 2. Maybe if the defender blocks it, runs toward the endzone and drop kicks it thru the uprights it should be one?
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Sherman started #####ing st the refs instead of making the tackle. 
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Ok this makes less sense to me, but it’s been a long day with many substances, so there’s that.
Seems to me that if the offense is going for two after a TD, and the other team INTs or picks up a fumble and brings it to the house, 2 points go to the defending team crossing the goal line.
And if the offense is going for a PAT after a TD and the other team blocks and picks up the ball and brings it to the house the other way, 1 point goes to that scoring defense (and not 2, which I think you intimated).
The points being attempted should be what’s awarded to the scoring defense.
The offense doesn't chose between 1 and 2 points before the play. (They sort of do now that the PAT is set so far back, but even then they theoretically could fake the kick and go for the endzone.)
A try is a try, whether it is a kick or a run/pass. So the defense is the same either way...they have to defend both possibilities.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
My entire point is that "points being attempted" isn't a thing.
Live ball, clock running, TDs are worth 6 and kicks through the uprights are worth 3.
Dead ball, post TD play with the clock not running, TDs are worth 2 and kicks through the uprights are worth 1.
dgreen
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I get your point, but I’m saying maybe points attempted should be a thing.
Or maybe not, I don’t care that much.
I do know that Catalina didn’t have to commit that penalty at all and just let Bennett let his own momentum to carry him out of bounds and out of making a play.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Let’s see if Wilson still has that two minute drill in the 4th magic.
dgreen
Footballguy
