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Government purge to consolidate the Prince's power

 

Now there was a helicopter crash killing a prince and several government authorities. Kushner was secretly there recently. There is the SA arms deal with the US an Russia. 

Is this a big conspiracy? US Senator Chris Murphy seems to think there is something going on as he has tweeted about it. 

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The corruption purge and the helicopter crash are likely unrelated.

The corruption purge is quite possibly about the crown prince consolidating power and getting rid of enemies. It could also be about corruption (or both at the same time)

The helicopter crash was close to the border with Yemen from where a missile was sent towards Riyadh, was it yday? Hard to tell what that is, could be the Houthis

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40 minutes ago, msommer said:

The corruption purge and the helicopter crash are likely unrelated.

The corruption purge is quite possibly about the crown prince consolidating power and getting rid of enemies. It could also be about corruption (or both at the same time)

The helicopter crash was close to the border with Yemen from where a missile was sent towards Riyadh, was it yday? Hard to tell what that is, could be the Houthis

Maybe not connected. The prince that died was the son of the last Saudi Crown Prince so it does raise some questions given the purge yesterday. 

Also, the purge included Prince Al-Waleed who has promoted women's rights and clashed with Trump. He is worth $17 billion and there is talk that Saudi Arabia is going to seize all of his assets. 

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56 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

or he's just trying to eliminate enemies and consolidate power

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1 minute ago, Eephus said:

or he's just trying to eliminate enemies and consolidate power

Can be both 

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4 hours ago, msommer said:

 

The helicopter crash was close to the border with Yemen from where a missile was sent towards Riyadh, was it yday? Hard to tell what that is, could be the Houthis

Middle East reporters on Twitter are now reporting that the son of the late King Fahd, Prince Abdul Aziz was detained yesterday and is now dead. You still sure the crash didn't have anything to do with the purge?

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2 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

Gonna guess this is about more than modernization.  Would love to be wrong, but it seems like a pure power-play in the battle of houses - people die, enemies jailed, possible rivals removed from the way.  

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and this is a good path toward a bad leader imo.

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Pé Resists‏ @4everNeverTrump

Timeline:

1) Kushner travels to Saudi Arabia

2) Trump asks Saudi Arabia to have Aramco's IPO in USA

3) Saudis arrest prominent Trump critic

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5 minutes ago, cosjobs said:

Pé Resists‏ @4everNeverTrump

Timeline:

1) Kushner travels to Saudi Arabia

2) Trump asks Saudi Arabia to have Aramco's IPO in USA

3) Saudis arrest prominent Trump critic

this seems like quite a reach.

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6 minutes ago, saintfool said:

this seems like quite a reach.

If Trump and Kushner were involved, it wouldn't have gone off as smoothly as it apparently has so far.

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13 minutes ago, Eephus said:

If Trump and Kushner were involved, it wouldn't have gone off as smoothly as it apparently has so far.

Good point

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-wahhabism-salafism-mohammed-bin-salman.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

This is an interesting article that examines MBS's actions in the context of Islam.  Although the arrests of the princes was limited to the elites, Islam is never far from the surface and isn't inclined to modernization. 

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Okay ladies & gents, it is obvious you have been brainwashing yourselves a little too much with whatever talking points the deep state has put out for CNN to spoon feed you.

Here is a rundown of what is really going on in Saudi Arabia:

Get woke, stay woke

I'd highly recommend adding @Imperator_Rex3 to your Twitter rotation.

@squiz, you know what to do

 

Cliffs for those too lazy to click:

1. Trump formed new alliance with Saudi Arabia when he became POTUS

2. Saudis get economic stability through Aramco IPO, we get stability in middle East, and draining of the swamp

3. Trump's terms we're that bin Salman had to get rid of the corrupt POS from his country that have been buying politicians from both sides for decades

4. Saudis have the evidence of bribery, extortion,  human trafficking (libs are going to hate this part), weapons deals, terrorist funding, etc

5. This is why they got everyone at once

6. US MSM and social media are owned and controlled by Saudis

7. Prince Alwaleed, (the one who had a Twitter melt during the campaign), Four Seasons, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas shooting also involved.

8. Clinton, Podesta, and Saudis have been intertwined for years. No coincidence Podesta resigns and has been in hiding/custody and the Saudi dragnet is unleashed. Google Clinton, Podesta, Saudi if you are unaware.

9. This would explain why Obama, Clinton, and Podesta have been MIA for days now. When was the last time it took Clinton more than 3 hours to tweet about gun control to score political points from the herd?

10. This would also explain the Bush outbursts this week. They are crapping their depends as well.

 

I would recommend reading through Imperator Rex's timeline, lots of nuggets in there for those who aren't buying CNN's BS anymore.

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

Middle East reporters on Twitter are now reporting that the son of the late King Fahd, Prince Abdul Aziz was detained yesterday and is now dead. You still sure the crash didn't have anything to do with the purge?

I'm not sure of anything.

It could have been a Sidewinder from an airforce jet or even a drone (the plot thickens) that took out the helicopter as it was running for asylum among the Houthis in Yemen. It could have been bad weather or sand or pilot error or mechanical failure.

Abdul Aziz could have been killed by his jailers or had a seizure from not getting his medication. 

We don't know,

At this point we do not have information that ties it together other than what is best described as "speculation"

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4 hours ago, Bozeman Bruiser said:

Okay ladies & gents, it is obvious you have been brainwashing yourselves a little too much with whatever talking points the deep state has put out for CNN to spoon feed you.

Here is a rundown of what is really going on in Saudi Arabia:

Get woke, stay woke

I'd highly recommend adding @Imperator_Rex3 to your Twitter rotation.

@squiz, you know what to do

 

Cliffs for those too lazy to click:

1. Trump formed new alliance with Saudi Arabia when he became POTUS

2. Saudis get economic stability through Aramco IPO, we get stability in middle East, and draining of the swamp

3. Trump's terms we're that bin Salman had to get rid of the corrupt POS from his country that have been buying politicians from both sides for decades

4. Saudis have the evidence of bribery, extortion,  human trafficking (libs are going to hate this part), weapons deals, terrorist funding, etc

5. This is why they got everyone at once

6. US MSM and social media are owned and controlled by Saudis

7. Prince Alwaleed, (the one who had a Twitter melt during the campaign), Four Seasons, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas shooting also involved.

8. Clinton, Podesta, and Saudis have been intertwined for years. No coincidence Podesta resigns and has been in hiding/custody and the Saudi dragnet is unleashed. Google Clinton, Podesta, Saudi if you are unaware.

9. This would explain why Obama, Clinton, and Podesta have been MIA for days now. When was the last time it took Clinton more than 3 hours to tweet about gun control to score political points from the herd?

10. This would also explain the Bush outbursts this week. They are crapping their depends as well.

 

I would recommend reading through Imperator Rex's timeline, lots of nuggets in there for those who aren't buying CNN's BS anymore.

 

 

 

 

:mellow: 

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4 hours ago, Bozeman Bruiser said:

Okay ladies & gents, it is obvious you have been brainwashing yourselves a little too much with whatever talking points the deep state has put out for CNN to spoon feed you.

Here is a rundown of what is really going on in Saudi Arabia:

Get woke, stay woke

I'd highly recommend adding @Imperator_Rex3 to your Twitter rotation.

@squiz, you know what to do

 

Cliffs for those too lazy to click:

1. Trump formed new alliance with Saudi Arabia when he became POTUS

2. Saudis get economic stability through Aramco IPO, we get stability in middle East, and draining of the swamp

3. Trump's terms we're that bin Salman had to get rid of the corrupt POS from his country that have been buying politicians from both sides for decades

4. Saudis have the evidence of bribery, extortion,  human trafficking (libs are going to hate this part), weapons deals, terrorist funding, etc

5. This is why they got everyone at once

6. US MSM and social media are owned and controlled by Saudis

7. Prince Alwaleed, (the one who had a Twitter melt during the campaign), Four Seasons, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas shooting also involved.

8. Clinton, Podesta, and Saudis have been intertwined for years. No coincidence Podesta resigns and has been in hiding/custody and the Saudi dragnet is unleashed. Google Clinton, Podesta, Saudi if you are unaware.

9. This would explain why Obama, Clinton, and Podesta have been MIA for days now. When was the last time it took Clinton more than 3 hours to tweet about gun control to score political points from the herd?

10. This would also explain the Bush outbursts this week. They are crapping their depends as well.

 

I would recommend reading through Imperator Rex's timeline, lots of nuggets in there for those who aren't buying CNN's BS anymore.

 

 

 

 

Head upstairs, to your mom's kitchen, and open a window, and get some fresh air.

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15 hours ago, msommer said:

The corruption purge and the helicopter crash are likely unrelated.

The corruption purge is quite possibly about the crown prince consolidating power and getting rid of enemies. It could also be about corruption (or both at the same time)

The helicopter crash was close to the border with Yemen from where a missile was sent towards Riyadh, was it yday? Hard to tell what that is, could be the Houthis

These last few days in saudi feel like the end of goodfellas, although in this case the fat guy with the fur coat ends up at the Ritz

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5 hours ago, Bozeman Bruiser said:

Okay ladies & gents, it is obvious you have been brainwashing yourselves a little too much with whatever talking points the deep state has put out for CNN to spoon feed you.

Here is a rundown of what is really going on in Saudi Arabia:

Get woke, stay woke

I'd highly recommend adding @Imperator_Rex3 to your Twitter rotation.

@squiz, you know what to do

 

Cliffs for those too lazy to click:

1. Trump formed new alliance with Saudi Arabia when he became POTUS

2. Saudis get economic stability through Aramco IPO, we get stability in middle East, and draining of the swamp

3. Trump's terms we're that bin Salman had to get rid of the corrupt POS from his country that have been buying politicians from both sides for decades

4. Saudis have the evidence of bribery, extortion,  human trafficking (libs are going to hate this part), weapons deals, terrorist funding, etc

5. This is why they got everyone at once

6. US MSM and social media are owned and controlled by Saudis

7. Prince Alwaleed, (the one who had a Twitter melt during the campaign), Four Seasons, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas shooting also involved.

8. Clinton, Podesta, and Saudis have been intertwined for years. No coincidence Podesta resigns and has been in hiding/custody and the Saudi dragnet is unleashed. Google Clinton, Podesta, Saudi if you are unaware.

9. This would explain why Obama, Clinton, and Podesta have been MIA for days now. When was the last time it took Clinton more than 3 hours to tweet about gun control to score political points from the herd?

10. This would also explain the Bush outbursts this week. They are crapping their depends as well.

 

I would recommend reading through Imperator Rex's timeline, lots of nuggets in there for those who aren't buying CNN's BS anymore.

 

 

 

 

11. For the past 17 years, Harvey Weinstein has been running a pedophile ring out of the basement of a Riyadh pizza parlor.

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3 hours ago, Osaurus said:

I thought Kushner made peace in the Middie East.  :confused:

"Who knew peace in the Middle East was so complicated?"

Oldie - but goodie

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Just now, HellToupee said:

Drudge headline....

Saudis on brink of war

:oldunsure:

 

The Saudis are at war.

Do they mean civil war?

Are they prone to hyperbole?

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2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

Drudge headline....

Saudis on brink of war

:oldunsure:

 

The Saudis have always been at war with Eastasia.

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12 hours ago, Bozeman Bruiser said:

Okay ladies & gents, it is obvious you have been brainwashing yourselves a little too much with whatever talking points the deep state has put out for CNN to spoon feed you.

Here is a rundown of what is really going on in Saudi Arabia:

Get woke, stay woke

I'd highly recommend adding @Imperator_Rex3 to your Twitter rotation.

@squiz, you know what to do

 

Cliffs for those too lazy to click:

1. Trump formed new alliance with Saudi Arabia when he became POTUS

2. Saudis get economic stability through Aramco IPO, we get stability in middle East, and draining of the swamp

3. Trump's terms we're that bin Salman had to get rid of the corrupt POS from his country that have been buying politicians from both sides for decades

4. Saudis have the evidence of bribery, extortion,  human trafficking (libs are going to hate this part), weapons deals, terrorist funding, etc

5. This is why they got everyone at once

6. US MSM and social media are owned and controlled by Saudis

7. Prince Alwaleed, (the one who had a Twitter melt during the campaign), Four Seasons, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas shooting also involved.

8. Clinton, Podesta, and Saudis have been intertwined for years. No coincidence Podesta resigns and has been in hiding/custody and the Saudi dragnet is unleashed. Google Clinton, Podesta, Saudi if you are unaware.

9. This would explain why Obama, Clinton, and Podesta have been MIA for days now. When was the last time it took Clinton more than 3 hours to tweet about gun control to score political points from the herd?

10. This would also explain the Bush outbursts this week. They are crapping their depends as well.

 

I would recommend reading through Imperator Rex's timeline, lots of nuggets in there for those who aren't buying CNN's BS anymore.

 

 

 

 

Just when you thought you were pretty up on all the current conspiracy theories...

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47 minutes ago, shader said:

Just when you thought you were pretty up on all the current conspiracy theories...

I don't think it's that far off- the question is more of perspective. Is this a great deal from leaders trying to sow peace, prosperity and reform or a massive power/money grab and political purging? It seems clear Trump has repositioned the world order to be US/SA/Russa

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Saudi Arabia says Lebanon has declared war on it

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BEIRUT (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia said on Monday that Lebanon had declared war against it because of attacks against the Kingdom by the Lebanese Shi‘ite group Hezbollah.

Saudi Gulf affairs minister Thamer al-Sabhan told Al-Arabiya TV that Saad al-Hariri, who announced his resignation as Lebanon’s prime minister on Saturday, had been told that acts of “aggression” by Hezbollah “were considered acts of a declaration of war against Saudi Arabia by Lebanon and by the Lebanese Party of the Devil”.

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22 minutes ago, Don Quixote said:

Saudi Arabia says Lebanon has declared war on it

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So, in order to stamp out the Lebanese aggression the Saudis have to go through Jordan and Israel, who I am sure will just let them pass unmolested

ETA: They can also choose to go via Syria i/o Israel. I'm sure Assad won't mind that they have been bombing him the past couple of years

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I have no idea what all this means, but it's good to know we have a levelheaded, experienced leader who will task the right people to make sure the U.S's safety and it's allies are well taken care of. /s
 

 

Zev Shalev Retweeted Dr. Dena Grayson

This Saudi Arabian experiment is designed to stoke war between Israel, Lebanon and Iran, all while funneling Saudi money into US politics.

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52 minutes ago, Don Quixote said:

Saudi Arabia says Lebanon has declared war on it

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They were just accusing Iran of acts of war yesterday. 

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Hmmmm....more chaos in the ME. Look for Russia to make a move to grab a foothold here.

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3 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Hmmmm....more chaos in the ME. Look for Russia to make a move to grab a foothold here.

While the US plays matador defense  

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52 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Hmmmm....more chaos in the ME. Look for Russia to make a move to grab a foothold here.

The Middle East has always been too complicated to view purely in Neo Cold War Superpower terms

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19 hours ago, Bozeman Bruiser said:

 

 

Cliffs for those too lazy to click:

2. Saudis get economic stability through Aramco IPO, we get stability in middle East, and draining of the swamp

6. US MSM and social media are owned and controlled by Saudis

7. Prince Alwaleed, (the one who had a Twitter melt during the campaign), Four Seasons, Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas shooting also involved.

 

 

 

 

 

2. in what sense is the swamp being drained?

6. um, what?

7. um, what in the hell are you saying?

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19 hours ago, Bozeman Bruiser said:

 

6. US MSM and social media are owned and controlled by Saudis

 

 

 

 

WTF? For years I've been told it was owned and controlled by the Zionists. What the hell is going on here??

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51 minutes ago, timschochet said:

WTF? For years I've been told it was owned and controlled by the Zionists. What the hell is going on here??

They recently sold it at a Beirut bazar 

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8 minutes ago, Bucky86 said:

Thanks for posting.  It's an interesting perspective.  The author made some good points about Russia's actions in Syria but I thought his argument sputtered badly in the last paragraph.

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Signs that a short-term alignment is emerging between Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia plays into Russia’s strategy. All three of these countries have an interest in cooperating to a degree in Syria. Turkey needs to expand into Syria to eliminate radical Sunni insurgent threats on its border, to check Iran’s power in Syria and to keep the Syrian Kurds weak in the north. Iran wants to further limit the threat of Sunni groups in Syria and consolidate its power in Syria and Iraq. And Saudi Arabia has a financial incentive to cooperate, as it needs all the money it can get. For Russia, however, its main focus is not in the Middle East but in Ukraine. It has so far seen success in one part of its Middle East strategy – gaining influence in an area the U.S. cares  deeply about – but it remains to be seen whether this will translate into concessions on Ukraine.

 

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18 hours ago, HellToupee said:

This has the potential to be a very bad situation here 

By here are you just meaning the whole situation or this is somehow specifically bad for the U.S.?

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26 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

By here are you just meaning the whole situation or this is somehow specifically bad for the U.S.?

Could be both . Civil war wouldn’t be good & obviously if Iran was involved that could be disastrous 

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1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

Could be both . Civil war wouldn’t be good & obviously if Iran was involved that could be disastrous 

Bad situation all around but I don't see it being specifically bad for us except I'm very concerned that we have a guy who really doesn't know what he's doing when it comes to many things but foreign diplomacy would be high on the list.

 

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