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If Your Tattoos Are A Reflection Of Your Personal Relavatism, I'll Take It (1 Viewer)

rockaction

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Normally, I hate tattoos. I think they're an imposition on the viewer. I don't share your personal conception of art or meaning. Why should I be forced to look at them in order to deal with you?  Can't you rent a billboard if you need personal expression that badly? It's like yelling "####" in the public square. 

But I will say this. I've noticed that people that have tattoos have very strong personal opinions. So long as they're etched on your skin and not codified in law or religion or dietary restrictions, then that's much better than the alternative I can think of. So thank you for your self-degradation and subsequent self-immolation.  

'Preciate it.  

 
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Okay, caveat: have a step-niece. She just got Mr. Mister lyrics tattooed on her body. Or henna'd. Or something. 

It says: "Take these broken wings...and learn to fly away to a love so free..." It's on her body. 

A Mr. Mister ####### lyric is now emblazoned on her body for everyone in the eighties to hate. Wretched song, decent tattoo. But every time I look at her, I have to read that ####. It's uncomfortable.    

 
rockaction said:
Okay, caveat: have a step-niece. She just got Mr. Mister lyrics tattooed on her body. Or henna'd. Or something. 

It says: "Take these broken wings...and learn to fly away to a love so free..." It's on her body. 

A Mr. Mister ####### lyric is now emblazoned on her body for everyone in the eighties to hate. Wretched song, decent tattoo. But every time I look at her, I have to read that ####. It's uncomfortable.    
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my niece did likewise (but not Mr. Mr.) ... just some god awful ink, straight off the flash wall - hideous, prolly ran her $50, if that (it's actually worth about a buck three eighty)

the ink boom is one of the most horrendous culture phenoms going - what used to be art is now pure commercialism, and appeals to that lowest common denominator ilk - i see ####heads with tats who i know cannot afford to put food on the ####### table "but check out dis new ink, yo!!1!"   smdh  :X

 
otb_lifer said:
my niece did likewise (but not Mr. Mr.) ... just some god awful ink, straight off the flash wall - hideous, prolly ran her $50, if that (it's actually worth about a buck three eighty)

the ink boom is one of the most horrendous culture phenoms going - what used to be art is now pure commercialism, and appeals to that lowest common denominator ilk - i see ####heads with tats who i know cannot afford to put food on the ####### table "but check out dis new ink, yo!!1!"   smdh  :X
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Unreal, dude. Just can't stand looking at everybody's personal conception of art or meaning anymore. It's like every time I step out of the house, I see awful billboards of idiocy and incompetence. It's really bad. Cracktoos are the worst.  

 
What if I went up to you and said, "You know what? You have ####ty taste in art?" What would would you say. I don't ####### care what you think about the ####ty taste I think you have in art. How's that? 

 
I don't have any tattoos, though I've considered something relatively unobtrusive on occasion in the past. I don't know, I like tattoos and I like the trend towards body ornamentation (to a degree I guess). 

It's interesting I guess, where views stem from. I'm sure there's some conservative/liberal dichotomy on at least one dimension. I appreciate the diversity in expression. One would think conservatives would value the "individual" aspect of it. On the other hand, conservatives value conformity to existing norms so it might be viewed as rebellion. 

I always check tattoos when I see them on people, I just find them interesting and what they say about someone.  :shrug:

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Is sombody forcing you to look at mine?  
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More or less, like cleavage or jewelry or t-shirts. I well remember a world where most Americans distinctly believed that they had a right to leave their house and spend time in public without the assault upon the sensibilities of the self-advertisements of others. That was considered a violation of common decency. I don't want to go back to that world for one second, but, since we have now been at the identity thing for a couple of gens, i'll be quite happy when people again start celebrating what we have in common over what sets us apart.

 
Sandeman said:
I'm 45 and about to get a tattoo (95% convinced). I'm old enough now that IDGAF what others think. That wasn't always the case.
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You didn't ask but wait till you're 100%. 

Also, if you're thinking about a tattoo, write it down or print out a picture and wait a year. If you still want it then go for it. 

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
You didn't ask but wait till you're 100%. 

Also, if you're thinking about a tattoo, write it down or print out a picture and wait a year. If you still want it then go for it. 
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This is good advice. Truth be told, I've been thinking about it for a year, maybe more. I just never had a design strike me as interesting, and then I had something of an epiphany and decided exactly on what I want. Still just at 95% so I will wait until 100%. Thanks man.

I have a job, need to make presentations, wear a suit occasionally, etc. So the neck tattoo is out. So I guess I do care a little bit.

 
Sandeman said:
This is good advice. Truth be told, I've been thinking about it for a year, maybe more. I just never had a design strike me as interesting, and then I had something of an epiphany and decided exactly on what I want. Still just at 95% so I will wait until 100%. Thanks man.

I have a job, need to make presentations, wear a suit occasionally, etc. So the neck tattoo is out. So I guess I do care a little bit.
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I waited almost 10 years to get mine. I also was searching g for the right artist. Found mine randomly at like 2AM and couldn't wait to set up the appointment. I had to wait almost 9 months for my firstbappointment but it was worth the wait. 

If youre anywhere near PA look up a dude named Ken Kile. He does world class ink and he's no more expensive than an average artist. 

 
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wikkidpissah said:
More or less, like cleavage or jewelry or t-shirts. I well remember a world where most Americans distinctly believed that they had a right to leave their house and spend time in public without the assault upon the sensibilities of the self-advertisements of others. 
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This. A thousand times this.  

 
rockaction said:
Okay, caveat: have a step-niece. She just got Mr. Mister lyrics tattooed on her body. Or henna'd. Or something. 

It says: "Take these broken wings...and learn to fly away to a love so free..." It's on her body. 

A Mr. Mister ####### lyric is now emblazoned on her body for everyone in the eighties to hate. Wretched song, decent tattoo. But every time I look at her, I have to read that ####. It's uncomfortable.    
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your posts are uncomfortable to read.

 
I'm not sure I get the  :lmao: , but I'm sure it's from guys with tattoos. Or likening my posts to tattoos. But mine go away at some point.  

 
Despyzer said:
I used to hate tattoos, but now I'm thankful for them. It's a great way to tell if you are dealing with a person who has poor long-term decision making skills.
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I'm thankful that they turn the impulse to regulate other people into the self, which is sort of nice. 

Regulators!  

 
Knew a guy that got a Penn State tattoo... Didn't go there was just a big football fan... Got it about a month before the Sandusky news broke. 

 
wikkidpissah said:
More or less, like cleavage or jewelry or t-shirts. I well remember a world where most Americans distinctly believed that they had a right to leave their house and spend time in public without the assault upon the sensibilities of the self-advertisements of others. That was considered a violation of common decency. I don't want to go back to that world for one second, but, since we have now been at the identity thing for a couple of gens, i'll be quite happy when people again start celebrating what we have in common over what sets us apart.
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I was at an art opening in Chelsea years ago, when I did such things and right before tats were becoming mainstream.

Wikkidid can tell all of you that there's a very special type of pretentious chucklehead that typically goes to these for anything but the booze or because their date is in the art world. (Raises hand for all three)

I was talking to one of these people for a bit, trying to make the most of things. I was partially jokingly supporting the notion the art of the mediocre, in a mass market way which seemed to excite him, so he says, exactly! check these out! And shows me a series of tattoos on his arm... All of them corporate logos- Honda, Sony, Nike and a few others.

I asked if he was getting paid to do this- very excited, no! It's about the art!

 
El Floppo said:
Still don't get who's making you look at these
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You kind of have to. There's no avoiding looking at people and their body art. It's worse than a billboard.  

eta* When you're in back of the line with a mother that's decided to tattoo her neck, it's impossible not to notice. It just sits there, demanding that you look at it. It's easy to avert your eyes to everything in life; why should one have to?  

 
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El Floppo said:
I was at an art opening in Chelsea years ago, when I did such things and right before tats were becoming mainstream.

Wikkidid can tell all of you that there's a very special type of pretentious chucklehead that typically goes to these for anything but the booze or because their date is in the art world. (Raises hand for all three)

I was talking to one of these people for a bit, trying to make the most of things. I was partially jokingly supporting the notion the art of the mediocre, in a mass market way which seemed to excite him, so he says, exactly! check these out! And shows me a series of tattoos on his arm... All of them corporate logos- Honda, Sony, Nike and a few others.

I asked if he was getting paid to do this- very excited, no! It's about the art!
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ahhhh, yes - the Andy Wallwhores, i used to call them

 
rockaction said:
You kind of have to. There's no avoiding looking at people and their body art. It's worse than a billboard.  

eta* When you're in back of the line with a mother that's decided to tattoo her neck, it's impossible not to notice. It just sits there, demanding that you look at it. It's easy to avert your eyes to everything in life; why should one have to?  
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Are you this judgemental about clothes or hairstyles? You're being "forced" to look at those even more than tats.

 
El Floppo said:
Are you this judgemental about clothes or hairstyles? You're being "forced" to look at those even more than tats.
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That's a good point. But logic doesn't enter into it. It's intentional, this body art. Clothes and hair are normal, natural things that we adjust and try and make look good for decorum's sake and nudity's curse. Intentionally going out of your way for body art is different, and abnormal. That's how I see it. 

 
rockaction said:
That's a good point. But logic doesn't enter into it. It's intentional, this body art. Clothes and hair are normal, natural things that we adjust and try and make look good for decorum's sake and nudity's curse. Intentionally going out of your way for body art is different, and abnormal. That's how I see it. 
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If 45yo normal dude up thread is 95% sure about getting his first, it's fair to say tats have never been more normalized.

Still stupid. But definitely normalized.

 
El Floppo said:
I was at an art opening in Chelsea years ago, when I did such things and right before tats were becoming mainstream.

Wikkidid can tell all of you that there's a very special type of pretentious chucklehead that typically goes to these for anything but the booze or because their date is in the art world. (Raises hand for all three)

I was talking to one of these people for a bit, trying to make the most of things. I was partially jokingly supporting the notion the art of the mediocre, in a mass market way which seemed to excite him, so he says, exactly! check these out! And shows me a series of tattoos on his arm... All of them corporate logos- Honda, Sony, Nike and a few others.

I asked if he was getting paid to do this- very excited, no! It's about the art!
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WTF?  :lmao:

 
Since rocky & i dont agree on much, i'll take his back here. When i made the financial decision to switch from coke to meth in the early 90s, it threw me in with a lot of ink addicts. Twas from them that i began to see a growing portion of our society begin to practice a brand of self-love which is actually inverted self-hate. I would say the hiphop world is rife with it, skate-or-dies, sextweeners, the first wave of neocons etc - people who hate people because they dont like being one. Media sold outsiderism to the point that everybody had to find ways to be "not you". This has further devolved to the point where the proceeding gen insists that their swerves be not only tolerated but embraced as we race to the untenable eventuality that America becomes 325,000,000 individual constituencies and falls apart. Die separately, #####es - what do i care?!

 
rockaction said:
Never mind the piercings.  
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I wasnt long out of the adolescent psych business at the time i mention & my wife was a psych nurse and a lot of the inkers & piercers i first encountered were the same personality types who i saw self-rub/cut/burn in psych hosps, something that had caused me to believe that we are all, to some extent, on the autistic scale (where "stimming" is virtually natural). Just as one might turn the rest of one's world to #### to match how ####ty one feels and gain mastery of one's ####tiness, causing oneself pain to "control" their pain seems a reasonable option to the stunted.

ETA: This all is not to say that tattoos cant be a legit form of folk art, just that most people who put their own self-advertisements in that perspective are kidding themselves

 
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rockaction said:
Normally, I hate tattoos. I think they're an imposition on the viewer. I don't share your personal conception of art or meaning. Why should I be forced to look at them in order to deal with you?  Can't you rent a billboard if you need personal expression that badly? It's like yelling "####" in the public square. 

But I will say this. I've noticed that people that have tattoos have very strong personal opinions. So long as they're etched on your skin and not codified in law or religion or dietary restrictions, then that's much better than the alternative I can think of. So thank you for your self-degradation and subsequent self-immolation.  

'Preciate it.  
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I'd rather look at people's ugly tattoos than your ugly face.

 
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