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As a spinoff to the other thread, who will you avoid in 2018?
For me, it's Diggs, A. Cooper & DT off the top of my head.
For me, it's Diggs, A. Cooper & DT off the top of my head.
Yeah, real question is, who do you think will be overvalued, and therefore unlikely to end up on your roster? I'm thinking Alshon Jeffery. He managed to stay healthy this year; his track record suggests that won't last.I am not going to avoid anybody. Everyone has value at some point. If they drop low enough in cost I would take anyone.
I actually anticipate targeting all three of the players you mentioned. None reached expectations entering the year and thus likely can be had at discount. Cooper is an elite talent who had a down year. Gruden is the new coach and Carr will almost certainly be better. I'd love having Cooper on my squad and will likely no longer have to pay a premium to do so.As a spinoff to the other thread, who will you avoid in 2018?
For me, it's Diggs, A. Cooper & DT off the top of my head.
I'm a Cowboys fan and have seen every game Dez has played. Agree strongly with this take.Dez Bryant & Joe Flacco. Someone else will take them way before they hit my price.
Well it certainly was the best year of his career.I generally don't look to draft players coming off of career years. Kamara
It was his worst as well......Well it certainly was the best year of his career.
I'm huge on drafting players who performed poorly the year before that I can now get at value/discounts, provided I think they can rebound. Gurley was a third round pick in a lot of leagues of mine and Hopkins a 3/4th round guy, both after being first round picks the previous year. That's the kind of players I love to draft..
Given the name recognition and "star" power, Dez will be long gone in my league before I'd bite.
I find the Diggs choice interesting. I suppose he disappointed those of us who expected him to step into top 12 WR territory, but he still finished WR13 in ppg (ppr). I know I had high hopes for him, and felt disappointed, until I realized that fact. It would obviously depend on where he is ranked and what his ADP is, but I suspect he has an opportunity to be a real value next year.As a spinoff to the other thread, who will you avoid in 2018?
For me, it's Diggs, A. Cooper & DT off the top of my head.
I'm 0-3 on him but if the price was right I'd return but I don't think the price will be right. If Landry walks, which I feel about 90% sure happens, I think his ADP will jump and I'll just have to leave him for someone else.DeVante Parker has fooled me once, he will get no more chances.
If Keenum is back, I see more of the same Diggs. Keenum clearly favors Thielen.I actually anticipate targeting all three of the players you mentioned. None reached expectations entering the year and thus likely can be had at discount. Cooper is an elite talent who had a down year. Gruden is the new coach and Carr will almost certainly be better. I'd love having Cooper on my squad and will likely no longer have to pay a premium to do so.
Diggs has great production but also an injury history. He can put up WR1 numbers when healthy, so, if the price point is right- I'll jump.
Denver can't possibly have worse QB play than this year an DT was still decent. He may even not be back. Either way, he's a nice buy low candidate for me.
Yeah, we don't know for sure, but IMO Kamara's numbers are likely not sustainable. His year may not be a career year...I get that.Well it certainly was the best year of his career.
Wow, really going out on a limb there. Have you also sworn off Corey Grant, Fitzgerald Toussaint and Zach Zenner?FAT EDDIE LACY
I am not sure about that statement. Thielen tapered off on the back half of the year which coincided with Diggs getting healthy. Diggs had another soft tissue issue early and Thielen took over during that time. Once Diggs came back and showed he was healthy he actually performed almost the exact same as Thielen towards the end of the year. Here are the last 6 games:If Keenum is back, I see more of the same Diggs. Keenum clearly favors Thielen.
Feel the same, for all the reasons you laid out.I think they are more 1A & 1B with no clear cut favorite when both are healthy.
Nope I like Zenner on another team...Wow, really going out on a limb there. Have you also sworn off Corey Grant, Fitzgerald Toussaint and Zach Zenner?
Own Cooper in several dynasty leagues and so far I have gotten more offers for him than any other player, which indicates he is probably undervalued, or maybe they hope I am disillusioned and will sell him cheap.Cooper will drop and could be a player you get good value for with Gruden taking over, and what sounds like Crabtree being dropped. I will be grabbing him next year in the 3rd/4th I'm guessing.
I'll second this one, although his days as a starter are likely done anyway and his ADP will reflect accordingly.Lamar Miller
After that year off i doubt he is ever the sameI'll add Martavis Bryant.
Clearly third fiddle now in the passing offense and even if you want to play the "if Brown gets hurt" card, he didn't do much when he had the chance. Another example of a guy with sick raw talent and measurables, but not a very good WR.
I'm not so sure Cooper falls all that much if they release Crabtree, there's not much else there other than Cook.Cooper will drop and could be a player you get good value for with Gruden taking over, and what sounds like Crabtree being dropped. I will be grabbing him next year in the 3rd/4th I'm guessing.
I don't think he's going to be back on the Steelers. Don't think they will get much for him in a trade, but I think they deal him anyway, like they did with Holmes. Which will likely spike his value in the fantasy community and be all the more reason to not pay his going price.I'll add Martavis Bryant.
Clearly third fiddle now in the passing offense and even if you want to play the "if Brown gets hurt" card, he didn't do much when he had the chance. Another example of a guy with sick raw talent and measurables, but not a very good WR.
What about Fitz if he comes back? He’s been pretty darn good the last few years.DYNASTY
FAT EDDIE LACY
Dez Bryant
ANY BROWNS till they improve on and off the field
ANY TITANS unless they change the coach
ANY CARDINALS except JOHNSON till we see improvement/quality coach
ANY SEAHAWKS RB's till they get the OL right
Yes I know those are blanket statements but I cannot have wasted space on my roster.
S. Bradford PERIOD FOREVER
I get it, but I don't think we can call it a "career year" yet.Yeah, we don't know for sure, but IMO Kamara's numbers are likely not sustainable. His year may not be a career year...I get that.
Just when you think you are out, the UPSIDE will always pull you back in.Hopefully Josh gordon.
Kind of like a rich man's Pierre Thomas.Dr. Octopus said:I get it, but I don't think we can call it a "career year" yet.
His 12 total TDs are likely to come down - TDs are a very volatile stat - but 75 catches for 742 yards seems fairly normal for the pass catching back in Payton's offense. 684 rushing yards doesn't seem all that much of an "outlier" either. I can see his numbers dropping a bit but depending on where his ADP ends up he can still return value.
I think it depends if Blount is brought back and, if not, that another hammer isn't brought in to replace him.. If it's primarily Ajayi and Clement in the backfield, I think Ajayi can do very well in that offense. One just has to temper expectations, as his days of a 20+ carry a game guy may be a thing of the past.Dr. Dan said:Ajayi maybe... but I might be back for more on that one we will see
Appreciate the post. I didn't think it was nearly that close. I stand corrected.Gally said:I am not sure about that statement. Thielen tapered off on the back half of the year which coincided with Diggs getting healthy. Diggs had another soft tissue issue early and Thielen took over during that time. Once Diggs came back and showed he was healthy he actually performed almost the exact same as Thielen towards the end of the year. Here are the last 6 games:
Thielen
Diggs
- W12 - 8 rec/89 yds/0 TD/11 Targets
- W13 - 4/51/0/5
- W14 - 6/105/1/12
- W15 - 3/30/0/5
- W16 - 2/24/0/6
- W17 - 6/61/0/7
- W12 - 5/66/0/7
- W13 - 2/32/0/5
- W14 - 6/64/0/10
- W15 - 5/30/1/6
- W16 - 5/60/1/8
- W17 - 6/65/1/6
So over the last 6 games Diggs had more TD's with the same receptions on 4 less targets. I think they are more 1A & 1B with no clear cut favorite when both are healthy. Thielen has the edge in yards while Diggs in TD's.
Add Ajayi to my list. I am so glad I traded him for Fournette right after the tradeDr. Dan said:Diggs is finally off my list.
Crowell is off my list
Ajayi maybe... but I might be back for more on that one we will see
menobrown said:Just when you think you are out, the UPSIDE will always pull you back in.
Because Baldwin was wholly unrealible, and the Seahawks have a lot of holes. I can’t stand counting on Pete Carroll for fantasy points.Why?
Ok. I'd think that will be factored in to their adp, and Wilson was pretty good last year.Because Baldwin was wholly unrealible, and the Seahawks have a lot of holes. I can’t stand counting on Pete Carroll for fantasy points.
He finishes WR#13 (PPG) in my league as well, 0.7 points behind Adam Thielen, but injury got him but he was WR #38 PPR after week 3. He was ultimately a huge disappointment, again for reasons beyond his control.Mene said:I find the Diggs choice interesting. I suppose he disappointed those of us who expected him to step into top 12 WR territory, but he still finished WR13 in ppg (ppr). I know I had high hopes for him, and felt disappointed, until I realized that fact. It would obviously depend on where he is ranked and what his ADP is, but I suspect he has an opportunity to be a real value next year.
Pretty good? He finished as the #1 QB in my league. He is the Seahawks offense.Ok. I'd think that will be factored in to their adp, and Wilson was pretty good last year.
With bevel and cable gone, I'm thinking there might be promise out there. Fwiw I'm not a fan but I do think Wilson is a top QB.