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9 minutes ago, the moops said:

:shrug:

Because I like to disagree with you?

Luckily it doesn’t look like it matters according to Franco’s best guess, whoever drafts him is at the mercy of WIS.

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2 hours ago, SoCalBroncoFan said:

I don’t think the sim is built for it. You can’t pitch position players, even if you just want to save innings, and you can’t pinch hit with pitchers. 

I have no problem with allowing it if the sim is built for it, I just don’t think it is. 

Very, very occasionally ... the sim will take it upon itself to use a pitcher as a pinch-hitter for another pitcher. Has to be a bizarre 18-inning game or something where the bench is depleted.

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2 hours ago, jfranco77 said:

I suspect this is a wrong assumption. WIS is likely to pick one, and you can only use him for that. Look at Babe Ruth 1918.

I thought that in his early seasons, Babe Ruth was in WIS as both a pitcher and a hitter? Is that not so?

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11 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I thought that in his early seasons, Babe Ruth was in WIS as both a pitcher and a hitter? Is that not so?

This is what I thought, as well.  

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PS: Still upset that I never had Ruth in a Sim. :kicksrock: 

I did like that year having Walter Johnson's best year AND Pete Alexander's best year, though.

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7 minutes ago, Koya said:
19 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I thought that in his early seasons, Babe Ruth was in WIS as both a pitcher and a hitter? Is that not so?

This is what I thought, as well.  

I stand corrected -- just went and checked. Jfranco is right. Babe Ruth 1915-17 is a pitcher only, and after that is a hitter only.

I could've sworn it was different way (way) back when we were first doing these WIS things.

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5 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I stand corrected -- just went and checked. Jfranco is right. Babe Ruth 1915-17 is a pitcher only, and after that is a hitter only.

I could've sworn it was different way (way) back when we were first doing these WIS things.

One of the benefits of Live, as you could use whomever you wanted, where you wanted (although defense would be an issue I'd assume, for most pitchers)

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6 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I stand corrected -- just went and checked. Jfranco is right. Babe Ruth 1915-17 is a pitcher only, and after that is a hitter only.

I could've sworn it was different way (way) back when we were first doing these WIS things.

As long as I've been playing, it's always been this way. 15-17 pitcher only, 18+ hitter only.

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41 minutes ago, Doug B said:

Very, very occasionally ... the sim will take it upon itself to use a pitcher as a pinch-hitter for another pitcher. Has to be a bizarre 18-inning game or something where the bench is depleted.

I tried to use Doc Crandall as a PH in one of the old time sim leagues.  Even when set all my bench hitters to rest, Sparky still wouldn't use Crandall as a PH unless all bats had been used.

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4 minutes ago, Kraft... said:

What year did we start doing WIS? Has it been 15 years? 

This should be the ninth year. I have an email for my BTTF V roll in 2015.

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4 minutes ago, Kraft... said:

What year did we start doing WIS? Has it been 15 years? 

Getting there - I think 2004-5 were the first of these drafts... it started with the all time baseball draft, no? 

SIMFISHING - The First and Last Stand of Mr. Harrier

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Just now, Bogart said:

This should be the ninth year. I have an email for my BTTF V roll in 2015.

Oh, we talking BTTF or WIS in general.

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Just now, Koya said:

Oh, we talking BTTF or WIS in general.

I was asking about WIS in general, what year was the all time draft that kicked it off? Can't remember any of my team, think I had Bob Gibson :oldunsure: 

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13 minutes ago, Kraft... said:

I was asking about WIS in general, what year was the all time draft that kicked it off? Can't remember any of my team, think I had Bob Gibson :oldunsure: 

So we were doing WIS XVI in 2013. Lost my mom in the middle of the draft and everyone was cool enough to pause things and let me catch up. The original All-Time Drafts, All-Time Alphabet Drafts and the like started over at Rotojunkie probably in early to mid 2000s. I have an email from John Franco with all eligible hitters with a title "VD 4 Hitters." ** Email was on 11/05/2004**

Edited by Bogart

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4 minutes ago, Kraft... said:

I was asking about WIS in general, what year was the all time draft that kicked it off? Can't remember any of my team, think I had Bob Gibson :oldunsure: 

I think we did the draft in 2004, WIS in early 2005 for that. 

Lefty Grove was one of my pitchers (did me better in the voting than he did in the SIM, IIRC), A Rod was my SS and I think Griff Jr. was my CF.  Pretty sure I used Memorial Stadium in an homage to my Orioles focused early youth. 

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We were drafting WIS III in the fall of 2005. I can remember making picks for that one from an apartment I only lived in for 4 months.

I graduated college in spring of 2003 and I know we hadn't started this yet. So I'm thinking the all-time draft was late 2003 at the earliest, more likely 2004.

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Or even easier go to account on WIS and go to user profile. i was late to the game apparently

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member since: March 23, 2010

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2 minutes ago, the moops said:

Or even easier go to account on WIS and go to user profile. i was late to the game apparently

moopsmoors
member since: March 23, 2010

Unless you're an extreme :nerd: like me and signed up in 2001 before we started doing these drafts. :bag:

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9 minutes ago, the moops said:

you nerds could probably type "whatifsports" into your email search and figure this out pretty easily

No longer have access to hotmail. :coffee:

 

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4 minutes ago, Spartans Rule said:

Unless you're an extreme :nerd: like me and signed up in 2001 before we started doing these drafts. :bag:

That's where I got my info - my join date was Jan 2005, which is why I assumed we drafted in 2004.

FWIW, I tried searching for the original all time MLB draft, but to no avail. :sadbanana: 

 

Also, where's BaseballTangent(tm) when you need it!

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"member since: January 14, 2005"

21 seasons simmed

1495-1910 (0.439) record; 0-3 in the playoffs

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14 minutes ago, Spartans Rule said:

Unless you're an extreme :nerd: like me and signed up in 2001 before we started doing these drafts. :bag:

Have you decided to be back in this year yet?

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By 2006, we were already on our fourth - did like two a year plus those early years.  Can't find an actual forum page yet, but found this:

Feb 10 2006, 03:28 PM
In: WIS IV Draft (1946-1968)
By: KraftSingles

 

I am pretty sure that was the Larry Plateau draft (aka, the Tony Oliva Dilemma)

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2 minutes ago, Koya said:

By 2006, we were already on our fourth - did like two a year plus those early years.  Can't find an actual forum page yet, but found this:

Feb 10 2006, 03:28 PM
In: WIS IV Draft (1946-1968)
By: KraftSingles

 

I am pretty sure that was the Larry Plateau draft (aka, the Tony Oliva Dilemma)

The first (and second) appearance of Gary Peters

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37 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Found an email from LarryBoy as he attempted LarrySheets. 

Harrier Rankings were the best. 

And by best, I mean as good or bad as anyone elses - but did have the benefit of making Harrier appear to be some genius on all things sim baseball.

After never winning a league that drafted for the SIM and then possibly going to jail, he was barely heard from, again.

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I think I cracked harrrrrankings in one of the sims. I analyzed past sim results and made a convoluted formula to evaluate players. Every time I picked someone really obscure that was on nobody else's radar, Harrier would tell me I sniped him. I ended up losing 100 games.

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12 minutes ago, Koya said:

Harrier Rankings were the best. 

And by best, I mean as good or bad as anyone elses - but did have the benefit of making Harrier appear to be some genius on all things sim baseball.

After never winning a league that drafted for the SIM and then possibly going to jail, he was barely heard from, again.

He's at ASU now

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Let's get Larry Boy back in this place. No trading of picks still in place, so we should be safe.

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7 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Let's get Larry Boy back in this place. No trading of picks still in place, so we should be safe.

He's not at ASU

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7 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Let's get Larry Boy back in this place. No trading of picks still in place, so we should be safe.

Can't we trade picks? Don't think I have, but thought we could. 

I've certainly traded players.  :coffee:

 

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2 minutes ago, Koya said:

Can't we trade picks? Don't think I have, but thought we could. 

I've certainly traded players.  :coffee:

 

I think the rule is no trading of draft picks in the first three rounds, The Larry Rule.

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2 hours ago, Koya said:

I think we did the draft in 2004, WIS in early 2005 for that.

Yep, December 2004 was the start of what would become the WIS I draft. Initially, it was just a Best All-Time Baseball Players Draft or something -- it was roughly halfway through that discussion took root of a way to play our squads against one another. Mrharrier, since he had played it before, took to the WIS proposal right away -- I hope I wasn't the only one who internally asked "Who?" when he drafted Cupid Childs at 2B late in that first draft.

Drafts were very casual back then ... that first draft was lasted until late January 2005. WIS I kicked off shortly afterward.

We were "chain drafting" for a while, kicking off the next WIS draft as soon as the prior league's World Series wrapped up. WIS II draft was May 2005, WIS III was September/October 2005. WIS IV was January 2006 ... I remember shooting the breeze in the draft thread about buying a car at that time.

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2 hours ago, Koya said:

FWIW, I tried searching for the original all time MLB draft, but to no avail. :sadbanana: 

I never could find the original thread on FBG, but I've found some Baseball Tangent draft threads via the Wayback Machine site.

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12 minutes ago, Doug B said:

Yep, December 2004 was the start of what would become the WIS I draft. Initially, it was just a Best All-Time Baseball Players Draft or something -- it was roughly halfway through that discussion took root of a way to play our squads against one another. Mrharrier, since he had played it before, took to the WIS proposal right away -- I hope I wasn't the only one who internally asked "Who?" when he drafted Cupid Childs at 2B late in that first draft.

Drafts were very casual back then ... that first draft was lasted until late January 2005. WIS I kicked off shortly afterward.

We were "chain drafting" for a while, kicking off the next WIS draft as soon as the prior league's World Series wrapped up. WIS II draft was May 2005, WIS III was September/October 2005. WIS IV was January 2006 ... I remember shooting the breeze in the draft thread about buying a car at that time.

I remember the Tony Oliva Larry Plateau trade as I was on my least fav phone EVAH - trying to scroll through the thread on a freakin' blackberry pearl (ye of the repeated post syndrome).  Judging by the bar I was at, must have been a mid-week daytime drinking day.

I remember my failed Dave Stieb being made while taking a whizz at the urinal pick at Foxwoods Casino during my mid-WIS period slump.  I made like the first 7 or 8 playoffs, winning a couple WS, but then fell off the cliff and just sucked for a few seasons before finding a new approach and getting back to the top of the mountain. And what glorious views they were. 

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11 minutes ago, RnR said:

Hey, nerds. I’ve been in all of these. Seat’s reserved.

Also, BBT is in safe hands.

:stonedbanana: :wastedbanana: 

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One really smart person started archiving the results of these drafts and posted them in post No. 2 of each draft. Newbies have dropped the ball there. 

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10 minutes ago, RnR said:

One really smart person started archiving the results of these drafts and posted them in post No. 2 of each draft. Newbies have dropped the ball there. 

Go for it.

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10 minutes ago, scoobus said:

Go for it.

I'm probably gonna spend the time working with Lucas Duda behind the plate instead. We have big plans for 2018 after tanking for the No.1 pick in this year's draft.

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