scoobus
Footballguy
Luckily it doesn’t look like it matters according to Franco’s best guess, whoever drafts him is at the mercy of WIS.
Because I like to disagree with you?
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Doug B
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Very, very occasionally ... the sim will take it upon itself to use a pitcher as a pinch-hitter for another pitcher. Has to be a bizarre 18-inning game or something where the bench is depleted.
Doug B
Footballguy
I thought that in his early seasons, Babe Ruth was in WIS as both a pitcher and a hitter? Is that not so?
Koya
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
I stand corrected -- just went and checked. Jfranco is right. Babe Ruth 1915-17 is a pitcher only, and after that is a hitter only.
I could've sworn it was different way (way) back when we were first doing these WIS things.
Koya
Footballguy
One of the benefits of Live, as you could use whomever you wanted, where you wanted (although defense would be an issue I'd assume, for most pitchers)
jfranco77
Footballguy
As long as I've been playing, it's always been this way. 15-17 pitcher only, 18+ hitter only.
Eephus
Footballguy
I tried to use Doc Crandall as a PH in one of the old time sim leagues. Even when set all my bench hitters to rest, Sparky still wouldn't use Crandall as a PH unless all bats had been used.
Bogart
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Getting there - I think 2004-5 were the first of these drafts... it started with the all time baseball draft, no?
SIMFISHING - The First and Last Stand of Mr. Harrier
Koya
Footballguy
Kraft...
Footballguy
I was asking about WIS in general, what year was the all time draft that kicked it off? Can't remember any of my team, think I had Bob Gibson
Bogart
Footballguy
So we were doing WIS XVI in 2013. Lost my mom in the middle of the draft and everyone was cool enough to pause things and let me catch up. The original All-Time Drafts, All-Time Alphabet Drafts and the like started over at Rotojunkie probably in early to mid 2000s. I have an email from John Franco with all eligible hitters with a title "VD 4 Hitters." ** Email was on 11/05/2004**I was asking about WIS in general, what year was the all time draft that kicked it off? Can't remember any of my team, think I had Bob Gibson
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Koya
Footballguy
I think we did the draft in 2004, WIS in early 2005 for that.I was asking about WIS in general, what year was the all time draft that kicked it off? Can't remember any of my team, think I had Bob Gibson
Lefty Grove was one of my pitchers (did me better in the voting than he did in the SIM, IIRC), A Rod was my SS and I think Griff Jr. was my CF. Pretty sure I used Memorial Stadium in an homage to my Orioles focused early youth.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
We were drafting WIS III in the fall of 2005. I can remember making picks for that one from an apartment I only lived in for 4 months.
I graduated college in spring of 2003 and I know we hadn't started this yet. So I'm thinking the all-time draft was late 2003 at the earliest, more likely 2004.
I graduated college in spring of 2003 and I know we hadn't started this yet. So I'm thinking the all-time draft was late 2003 at the earliest, more likely 2004.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Unless you're an extreme
like me and signed up in 2001 before we started doing these drafts. 
Koya
Footballguy
That's where I got my info - my join date was Jan 2005, which is why I assumed we drafted in 2004.Unless you're an extreme
FWIW, I tried searching for the original all time MLB draft, but to no avail.
Also, where's BaseballTangent(tm) when you need it!
Bogart
Footballguy
scoobus
Footballguy
Have you decided to be back in this year yet?Unless you're an extreme
Koya
Footballguy
By 2006, we were already on our fourth - did like two a year plus those early years. Can't find an actual forum page yet, but found this:
Feb 10 2006, 03:28 PM
In: WIS IV Draft (1946-1968)
By: KraftSingles
I am pretty sure that was the Larry Plateau draft (aka, the Tony Oliva Dilemma)
Feb 10 2006, 03:28 PM
In: WIS IV Draft (1946-1968)
By: KraftSingles
I am pretty sure that was the Larry Plateau draft (aka, the Tony Oliva Dilemma)
Eephus
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Harrier Rankings were the best.
And by best, I mean as good or bad as anyone elses - but did have the benefit of making Harrier appear to be some genius on all things sim baseball.
After never winning a league that drafted for the SIM and then possibly going to jail, he was barely heard from, again.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I think I cracked harrrrrankings in one of the sims. I analyzed past sim results and made a convoluted formula to evaluate players. Every time I picked someone really obscure that was on nobody else's radar, Harrier would tell me I sniped him. I ended up losing 100 games.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Roll set 1
Die rolls: 889
Roll subtotal: 889
Roll total: 889
Die rolls: 889
Roll subtotal: 889
Roll total: 889
Eephus
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Can't we trade picks? Don't think I have, but thought we could.
I've certainly traded players.
Bogart
Footballguy
I think the rule is no trading of draft picks in the first three rounds, The Larry Rule.Can't we trade picks? Don't think I have, but thought we could.
I've certainly traded players.
scoobus
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Yep, December 2004 was the start of what would become the WIS I draft. Initially, it was just a Best All-Time Baseball Players Draft or something -- it was roughly halfway through that discussion took root of a way to play our squads against one another. Mrharrier, since he had played it before, took to the WIS proposal right away -- I hope I wasn't the only one who internally asked "Who?" when he drafted Cupid Childs at 2B late in that first draft.Koya said:
Drafts were very casual back then ... that first draft was lasted until late January 2005. WIS I kicked off shortly afterward.
We were "chain drafting" for a while, kicking off the next WIS draft as soon as the prior league's World Series wrapped up. WIS II draft was May 2005, WIS III was September/October 2005. WIS IV was January 2006 ... I remember shooting the breeze in the draft thread about buying a car at that time.
Doug B
Footballguy
I never could find the original thread on FBG, but I've found some Baseball Tangent draft threads via the Wayback Machine site.FWIW, I tried searching for the original all time MLB draft, but to no avail.
RnR
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
I remember the Tony Oliva Larry Plateau trade as I was on my least fav phone EVAH - trying to scroll through the thread on a freakin' blackberry pearl (ye of the repeated post syndrome). Judging by the bar I was at, must have been a mid-week daytime drinking day.
I remember my failed Dave Stieb being made while taking a whizz at the urinal pick at Foxwoods Casino during my mid-WIS period slump. I made like the first 7 or 8 playoffs, winning a couple WS, but then fell off the cliff and just sucked for a few seasons before finding a new approach and getting back to the top of the mountain. And what glorious views they were.
RnR
Footballguy
I'm probably gonna spend the time working with Lucas Duda behind the plate instead. We have big plans for 2018 after tanking for the No.1 pick in this year's draft.
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