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What if they're accused by 19 different people, many of whose stories are verified by journalists who find corroboration, and also their stories perfectly fit the accused person's own description of his behavior in a conversation captured by a hot mic as well as a broader lifelong attitude of misogyny? Can we draw reasonable conclusions at that point?
Yea...ok. That's not what is happening here.
The first use of “Trump” was in the 8th post of this thread. By the OP.
I exaggerated a little , sue me. What are the majority of the posts about in this thread, the topic in the title or POTUS?
You guys should really take an hour or two out of your lives once in awhile to forget about Trump and enjoy life a little.
So...a straw man attempt at belittling others is your answer to what was posted? That seems rather off topic.
Right out of college in my first job I was goosed and subjected to lewd comments by a female superior. Years later, Iwas threatened by a female HR manager whose advances I had been declining that she could ruin me. Also, a known homosexual male manager made a lewd advance in an elevator.Gr00vus said:
If Trump is found guilty is sexually assaulting someone, I'll be right there with you on ousting him from the White House I promise you.Dickies said:
it happens, absolutelyeurotrashman said:
bring each one of them up, lets discuss them if you want toBruce Dickinson said:
That’s not what the title suggests. I thought this thread was about the movement itself. I really don’t care about one of its leaders being hypocritical, that has no bearing on the movement itself, which I believe is revolutionary. It’s changing us as a society like no other recent non-technological phenomenon that I can think of. The social changes as a result of what’s going on can barely be comprehended.Cowboysfan8 said:
Wilt Chamberlain supposedly had 20,000 women .......... FYI he didn't hit on them all, many went to him looking for luvin
Figures you would use Wilt Chamberlain as some sort of standard to judge and compare Trump to.
This is literally the issue that started the Me Too movement. Now we've come full circle.
I could use a lot of famous men who had women flinging themselves all over them. It happens.
"Me Too" (or "#MeToo", with local alternatives in other languages) spread virally in October 2017 as a hashtag used on social media to help demonstrate the widespread prevalence of sexual assault and harassment, especially in the workplace.[1] It followed soon after the public revelations of sexual misconduct allegations against Harvey Weinstein.[2]
If you had a dollar for every political discussion you had about Trump without bringing up a Clinton or an Obama, what would you do with your zero dollars?
That stinks. Sorry you had to go through that. The middle one in particular is really bad stuff. How did that one get resolved?
Interesting, so what's the magic number you use to change your mind? 3? 5? 11? 19? 27? I'd just like to know how say 19 isn't enough but 30 is.
Two female co-workers observed one of her more psychotic attempts and vouched for it. She was given a cease and desist.
If you're really going to argue that those are in the same category (as in frequency) as women assault and abuse, you're misinformed, disingenuous or just want to argue.http://www.stopdv.org/index.php/statistics/
It's cute that you think this. If Bill Clinton were president right now, the #metoo movement would not be happening because it would inconvenient tribal friction. The 1990s were not Mad Men -- people knew that Clinton was a predator at the time. They just chose to overlook it because the stock market was doing well and because Democrats collectively decided to go to the mattresses for him.
Disagree. Was it "friction" that part of the "Left" Tribe (NY Times) turned on their own in Weinstein to break this whole thing? This was happening regardless.
You’re wrong Ivan. This movement has already inconvenienced tribal friction. That’s why I pointed out that it’s revolutionary. In a way, it’s similar to the sudden widespread acceptance of gay rights, except that in this case the ramifications are much greater.
I think quite obviously there is a push mostly from the right, to downplay the movement or delegitimize claims that have gone on.
Not the same way. Harvey Weinstein doesn't hold elected office. And forcing Franken out of the Senate isn't any more impressive than Republicans forcing Bob Packwood out of the Senate. I lived through the 1990s and I remember them very well.
I'm normally inclined to believe accounts like this. But since you're a pathological liar on this board, it's fair to assume there are big gaps between your accounts of what happened and what actually happened. So I don't believe you.
Those points should be discussed on their merits then. Should be easy. You just want them dismissed as irrelevant.
They are irrelevant in terms of the MeToo movement, because their frequency is so rare. The continued focus on them is a not so subtle pushback against the MeToo movement, IMO.
I wouldn’t expect any less from the guy that dropped f bomb after f bomb on one of the owners and lived to tell about it.
So...he called you a liar...and in response...you may have lied?
