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Stormy Daniels scandal thread

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On 2/14/2018 at 0:58 PM, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Now she can get paid... again. 

Can't lie. When I first read that sentence I replaced the "p" with an "l."

Not sure why.

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11 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

If I were single and Paula Abdul left DNA on my clothes, I can’t promise I wouldn’t make that suit a party discussion piece.  

I'd put it in a giant shiny box in my living room with the Straight Up video playing on a loop. 

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On 2/14/2018 at 10:58 AM, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Now she can get paid... again. 

Donald, put your checkbook away, Michael Cohen will pick this one up too.

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2 hours ago, Osaurus said:

Where’s the scandal?

I’m sure Donald loves talking about his payoffs to pron stars he banged.

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1 hour ago, boofatty said:

Watching how this is playing out, and knowing who is involved...

Wouldn't the shark move by Cohen/Trump/Stormy be to purposely do this and have a second agreement that Stormy cash in on an interview only to say "nothing happened" or to lessen the drama?  The only thing that's been confirmed is an initial payment.  She gets paid, the story deflates and in the end the trump team has deniability.

Another stained dress?  Seems hyperbolic that a woman that gets paid to be covered in goo on camera would keep a dress from a guy that was at that time a joke.  Or she was smart enough to keep it for 12 or more years as an investment for future blackmail material.

The whole thing seems suspicious to me.

Trump hates sharks. I'm sure he especially hates copying their moves. 

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3 hours ago, boofatty said:

Wouldn't the shark move by Cohen/Trump/Stormy be to purposely do this and have a second agreement that Stormy cash in on an interview only to say "nothing happened" or to lessen the drama?  The only thing that's been confirmed is an initial payment.  She gets paid, the story deflates and in the end the trump team has deniability.

36DD chess.

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3 hours ago, boofatty said:

Watching how this is playing out, and knowing who is involved...

Wouldn't the shark move by Cohen/Trump/Stormy be

None of the people involved are smart enough to pull off a shark move.

Daniels is hoping some DNA from Trump will be on the dress. She has no idea if it will. Trump/Cohen will pay to make the story go away if it seems like there's Trump DNA on the dress. The only sharp person here is Daniels's manager or advisor or lawyer.

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7 hours ago, boofatty said:

Watching how this is playing out, and knowing who is involved...

Wouldn't the shark move by Cohen/Trump/Stormy be to purposely do this and have a second agreement that Stormy cash in on an interview only to say "nothing happened" or to lessen the drama?  The only thing that's been confirmed is an initial payment.  She gets paid, the story deflates and in the end the trump team has deniability.

Another stained dress?  Seems hyperbolic that a woman that gets paid to be covered in goo on camera would keep a dress from a guy that was at that time a joke.  Or she was smart enough to keep it for 12 or more years as an investment for future blackmail material.

The whole thing seems suspicious to me.

Holy ####### ####, you think someone pays 130k to a pronstar as a preplanned stepping stone to deflating a scandal before it even starts?

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On 2/14/2018 at 3:53 PM, krista4 said:

As titillating as Stormy's position is (yes, I chose those words)

:excited:

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Karen McDougal story now out in the New Yorker.

>>Trump and McDougal began an affair, which McDougal later memorialized in an eight-page, handwritten document provided to The New Yorker by John Crawford, a friend of McDougal’s. When I showed McDougal the document, she expressed surprise that I had obtained it but confirmed that the handwriting was her own.<<

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52 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Karen McDougal story now out in the New Yorker.

>>Trump and McDougal began an affair, which McDougal later memorialized in an eight-page, handwritten document provided to The New Yorker by John Crawford, a friend of McDougal’s. When I showed McDougal the document, she expressed surprise that I had obtained it but confirmed that the handwriting was her own.<<

If it turns out there really is a special leave-behind on that gold dress I may die of schadenfreude.

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2 hours ago, knowledge dropper said:

Does this end with a Stormy/Melania catfight?

 

Melania would first have to care one bit that her disgusting fat wrinkly old man is with another woman. So, no. 

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2 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

Melania would first have to care one bit that her disgusting fat wrinkly old man is with another woman. So, no. 

I bet she cares insofar as it’s pretty embarrassing for her. 

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4 hours ago, The Future Champs said:

Holy ####### ####, you think someone pays 130k to a pronstar as a preplanned stepping stone to deflating a scandal before it even starts?

No, try to keep up. It happened, they got caught. Now I merely suggest that if they were to do this intentionally it could lead to a win-win scenario in their opinion.  Why else would Cohen come out of nowhere and state something so obviously false?

Just a thought for discussion, didn’t mean to rile up the resident board genius.

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6 minutes ago, adonis said:

I bet she cares insofar as it’s pretty embarrassing for her. 

She's done a fine job all these years dealing with the embarrassment of being with an unattractive, much older than her guy only for his money.  So I think she's still doing just fine. 

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Remember they don’t even share a bedroom at the White House.  

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17 minutes ago, adonis said:

I bet she cares insofar as it’s pretty embarrassing for her. 

Not to mention Barron, assuming he has unfettered access to the internet. 

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4 minutes ago, SoBeDad said:

Not to mention Barron, assuming he has unfettered access to the internet. 

The other kids know their dad is a scumbag and have chosen to follow suit. Barron will be no different

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Karen McDougal story now out in the New Yorker.

>>Trump and McDougal began an affair, which McDougal later memorialized in an eight-page, handwritten document provided to The New Yorker by John Crawford, a friend of McDougal’s. When I showed McDougal the document, she expressed surprise that I had obtained it but confirmed that the handwriting was her own.<<

Big bowl of nothingclams.

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He's repented and God has forgiven him so this story means nothing.

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8 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

He's repented and God has forgiven him so this story means nothing.

I think you meant to say “he repeated”

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44 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

Melania would first have to care one bit that her disgusting fat wrinkly old man is with another woman. So, no. 

Can we at least have the imaginary visual?

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Afterward, McDougal wrote, she “went to see him every time he was in LA (which was a lot).” Trump, she said, always stayed in the same bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel and ordered the same meal—steak and mashed potatoes—and never drank. McDougal’s account is consistent with other descriptions of Trump’s behavior. Last month, In Touch Weekly published an interview conducted in 2011 with Stephanie Clifford in which she revealed that during a relationship with Trump she met him for dinner at a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel, where Trump insisted they watch “Shark Week” on the Discovery Channel. Summer Zervos, a former contestant on “The Apprentice,” alleged that Trump assaulted her at a private dinner meeting, in December of 2007, at a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Trump, Zervos has claimed, kissed her, groped her breast, and suggested that they lie down to “watch some telly-telly.” After Zervos rebuffed Trump’s advances, she said that he “began thrusting his genitals” against her. (Zervos recently sued Trump for defamation after he denied her account.) All three women say that they were escorted to a bungalow at the hotel by a Trump bodyguard, whom two of the women have identified as Keith Schiller. 

- Schiller is always there. Always.

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3 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Can we at least have the imaginary visual?

Try the NYPost, plenty of First Lady on girl material there.

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Awful tats 

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Karen McDougal story now out in the New Yorker.

>>Trump and McDougal began an affair, which McDougal later memorialized in an eight-page, handwritten document provided to The New Yorker by John Crawford, a friend of McDougal’s. When I showed McDougal the document, she expressed surprise that I had obtained it but confirmed that the handwriting was her own.<<

Considering all the people who seem to care more about legality than anything, I'm surprised people aren't making a bigger deal of the fact Trump frequently tries to pay for sex.

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45 minutes ago, adonis said:

I bet she cares insofar as it’s pretty embarrassing for her. 

I bet she cares insofar as it pertains to the prenup.  

FWIW, Sam Stein (I think) had the best take I've heard yet on why Daniels was paid off, etc.  It's not to hide the story per se from the public, but to prevent her from testifying in any divorce proceeding since there are probably carve outs for cheating.  Being the cheap guy he is, Trump doesn't want to pay.  

 

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Just now, TobiasFunke said:

Considering all the people who seem to care more about legality than anything, I'm surprised people aren't making a bigger deal of the fact Trump frequently tries to pay for sex.

It's just a snip, but I don't remember seeing this before:

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Another adult-film actress, Dawn Vanguard, whose screen name is Alana Evans, claimed that Trump invited her to join them in his hotel room that weekend. A third adult-film performer, Jessica Drake, alleged that Trump asked her to his hotel room, met her and two women she brought with her in pajamas, and then “grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking for permission.” He then offered Drake ten thousand dollars in exchange for her company. (Trump denied the incident.) 

- So yeah.

Otoh he seems more of the variety where he dangles career help and free condos with no intention of ever delivering.

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I think a little less of Karen McDougal now.  :kicksrock:

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's just a snip, but I don't remember seeing this before:

- So yeah.

Otoh he seems more of the variety where he dangles career help and free condos with no intention of ever delivering.

It was in the previous story about Stormy Daniels.  And according to McDougal he tried to pay her after they first had sex too, although it was unsolicited and she refused.  She made it sound like it was standard operating procedure for him:

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He offered me money,” she wrote. “I looked at him (+ felt sad) + said, ‘No thanks - I’m not ‘that girl.’ I slept w/you because I like you - NOT for money’ - He told me ‘you are special.’ ”

She's special seems to mean "the other women sleep with me so I'll pay them."

Doesn't bother me if someone does this, but considering all the people who excuse unethical behavior (not putting financial interests in a blind trust, self-dealing with campaign funds, meeting with the Russians to hear their offer of dirt) on the grounds that it's not technically a crime, seems like the opposite should be true about this, which is technically a crime even if I don't find it unethical.

There's also the fact that this sort of thing is pretty good blackmail material and if the National Enquirer had it it's a safe bet that foreign intelligence services have it too.  Of course at this point if you don't already think the president is compromised you're living in a fantasy world.

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From the New Yorker story

 This is a favorite tactic of the C.E.O. and chairman of A.M.I., David Pecker, who describes the President as “a personal friend.”

Most fitting name for a friend of Trump and to be involved in this story?

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2 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

It was in the previous story about Stormy Daniels.  And according to McDougal he tried to pay her after they first had sex too, although it was unsolicited and she refused.  She made it sound like it was standard operating procedure for him:

She's special seems to mean "the other women sleep with me so I'll pay them."

Doesn't bother me if someone does this, but considering all the people who excuse unethical behavior (not putting financial interests in a blind trust, self-dealing with campaign funds, meeting with the Russians to hear their offer of dirt) on the grounds that it's not technically a crime, seems like the opposite should be true about this, which is technically a crime even if I don't find it unethical.

There's also the fact that this sort of thing is pretty good blackmail material and if the National Enquirer had it it's a safe bet that foreign intelligence services have it too.  Of course at this point if you don't already think the president is compromised you're living in a fantasy world.

FWIW, I'm not trying to excuse Trump's behaviour in any manner, but this was pretty SOP for NY Wall Street-ish/VIPs bigwigs in 2000s (hell even now).  There's a whole cottage industry in the high end clubs here of matching these VIPs with girls (in most cases 18-22 year olds) with the guys picking up all their expenses.  They aren't as overt as Trump ("here's 10K for your time"), but the concept is the same.

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Just now, Sammy3469 said:

FWIW, I'm not trying to excuse Trump's behaviour in any manner, but this was pretty SOP for NY Wall Street-ish/VIPs bigwigs in 2000s (hell even now).  There's a whole cottage industry in the high end clubs here of matching these VIPs with girls (in most cases 18-22 year olds) with the guys picking up all their expenses.  They aren't as overt as Trump ("here's 10K for your time"), but the concept is the same.

Yeah I know, and I don't really have any problem with that.  I'm just saying that if you excuse clearly unethical behavior on the grounds that it's technically legal, you can't really excuse technically illegal behavior on the grounds that it's no big deal.  Can't have it both ways. Or at least you shouldn't be able to have it both ways, but nothing matters any more.

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Just now, TobiasFunke said:

Yeah I know, and I don't really have any problem with that.  I'm just saying that if you excuse clearly unethical behavior on the grounds that it's technically legal, you can't really excuse technically illegal behavior on the grounds that it's no big deal.  Can't have it both ways. Or at least you shouldn't be able to have it both ways, but nothing matters any more.

Yup...

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51 minutes ago, Sammy3469 said:

I bet she cares insofar as it pertains to the prenup.  

FWIW, Sam Stein (I think) had the best take I've heard yet on why Daniels was paid off, etc.  It's not to hide the story per se from the public, but to prevent her from testifying in any divorce proceeding since there are probably carve outs for cheating.  Being the cheap guy he is, Trump doesn't want to pay. 

This is a good and funny point because maybe Melania will come out being the woman making the most out of this - but let's keep in mind McDougal was bought out just 4 days before the election and Stormy did her agreement also just before the election. I don't think the pre-nup was the only thing on Trump's mind here.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This is a good and funny point because maybe Melania will come out being the woman making the most out of this - but let's keep in mind McDougal was bought out just 4 days before the election and Stormy did her agreement also just before the election. I don't think the pre-nup was the only thing on Trump's mind here.

I mean he even thought he was losing up until election day.  Of course he was thinking of the pre-nup.  I'm guessing this was SOP for saving the validity of it.

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1 hour ago, Dinsy Ejotuz said:

If it turns out there really is a special leave-behind on that gold dress I may die of schadenfreude.

I'm going to have a schadenfreude surprise party. For myself. 

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