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Here is the Notice of Appeal we just filed with the Ninth Circuit relating to the defamation claim against Trump. His record before the Ninth Circuit has been anything but good. #Basta

 

Also, :lmao: at anybody who thinks having a claim dismissed is going to slow down a lawyer like Avenatti.

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56 minutes ago, flapgreen said:

There goes that. 

Very hard to win a defamation suit when you are a public figure (which Stormy Daniels has surely become).

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On 9/26/2018 at 4:56 AM, Ned said:

"'He stood outside, not leaving,'" Daniels said of Roethlisberger. "Every now and again he'd knock, rapping his knuckles in a line low along the door. 'Come onnnn,' he repeated in a singsong voice. 'I won't tell.'"

 

Yeesh.  :unsure: 

:lmao: 

Like ten years ago I met a girl at a party who openly talked about her night with Roethlisberger. She had gone to Miami Ohio and Ben was a few years into the league and she decided she was gonna hook up with a pro QB when Ben showed up at a house party or something.  Her experience is apparently consistent with the common Roethlisberger story (at least the consensual ones) where he's just incredibly cheesy.  He said, when they got to the bedroom, "you're with the Big Ben; let the good times roll."  

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36 minutes ago, squistion said:

Very hard to win a defamation suit when you are a public figure (which Stormy Daniels has surely become).

I'd say it's harder to win when the alleged defaming statement was pretty obvious hyperbole. 

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4 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This means it was a frivolous claim.

She *won, but due to her *attorney she will have to pay. That’s really farked up and that’s on him.

Not necessarily.  He, hopefully, advised her this lawsuit was on the proverbial boarder and that she could be subject to attorney's fees as a sanction if Trump wins by summary judgment. 

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1 hour ago, flapgreen said:

There goes that. 

Not really.  There's still the NDA issue.  And, perhaps fitting, Trump "won" because a court found that a reasonable person would have concluded that his over-the-top claims are hyperbole.  In other words, a reasonable person would consider what he's saying to be nonsense. 

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30 minutes ago, Zow said:

I'd say it's harder to win when the alleged defaming statement was pretty obvious hyperbole. 

How many defamation suits by one public figure against another have ever succeeded? I am sure there are some, but none come to mind for me at the moment.

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5 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This means it was a frivolous claim.

She *won, but due to her *attorney she will have to pay. That’s really farked up and that’s on him.

It doesn’t necessarily mean it was frivolous. I don’t know the particulars at issue, but fees are comparatively easy to get under Anti-SLAPP provisions (as opposed to on other matters.) 

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3 hours ago, Zow said:

Not necessarily.  He, hopefully, advised her this lawsuit was on the proverbial boarder and that she could be subject to attorney's fees as a sanction if Trump wins by summary judgment. 

Is this Kato Kaelin?

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10 hours ago, Henry Ford said:

It doesn’t necessarily mean it was frivolous. I don’t know the particulars at issue, but fees are comparatively easy to get under Anti-SLAPP provisions (as opposed to on other matters.) 

I was probably annoyed and a beer in. However I am still annoyed and now working off coffee instead of brew. I don't think this was a Slapp suit by Stormy at Trump. It certainly could have been, but I think it was defamation and fraud and that kind of thing. But even if it was Slapp it would be her seeking the fees from Trump not the other way around. I guess I've expressed myself about this. The goal of the suit was to get Cohen/EC LLC/Trump to drop their arbitration against her and let her out of the NDA, which apparently happened but which Avenatti just couldn't say Yes to. - Maybe I'm wrong (typically am, I think I'd defer to you just about on any point, seriously... so just pontificating here) as I'd really be as happy as anyone to see Trump dragged into deposition or hearing and be forced to provide documentation and the like.

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3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I was probably annoyed and a beer in. However I am still annoyed and now working off coffee instead of brew. I don't think this was a Slapp suit by Stormy at Trump. It certainly could have been, but I think it was defamation and fraud and that kind of thing. But even if it was Slapp it would be her seeking the fees from Trump not the other way around. I guess I've expressed myself about this. The goal of the suit was to get Cohen/EC LLC/Trump to drop their arbitration against her and let her out of the NDA, which apparently happened but which Avenatti just couldn't say Yes to. - Maybe I'm wrong (typically am, I think I'd defer to you just about on any point, seriously... so just pontificating here) as I'd really be as happy as anyone to see Trump dragged into deposition or hearing and be forced to provide documentation and the like.

No, I'm saying anti-SLAPP provisions (basically first amendment add-on laws based on political rivalry) can get a case dismissed and get fees awarded.  I'm not sure what you're talking about.  SLAPP stands for Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation, which isn't something you'd argue when you file a lawsuit, it's a defense.

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3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Are you not aware that Trump originally sued Stormy Daniels to enforce the NDA?

The NDA is toast, it's been blown up. That's over as of a few weeks ago.

Did the court rule in favor of Trump today. Yes or no?

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59 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

No, I'm saying anti-SLAPP provisions (basically first amendment add-on laws based on political rivalry) can get a case dismissed and get fees awarded.  I'm not sure what you're talking about.  SLAPP stands for Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation, which isn't something you'd argue when you file a lawsuit, it's a defense.

Thanks, I think we're talking about the same thing. - But wouldn't that have done by Stormy the citizen to defend herself against Donald, perhaps the world's most powerful politician, as he had filed the suit to enforce the NDA and silence her? And not by Donald the world class blowhard politician seeking to defend himself against against the citizen?

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thanks, I think we're talking about the same thing. - But wouldn't that have done by Stormy the citizen to defend herself against Donald, perhaps the world's most powerful politician, as he had filed the suit to enforce the NDA and silence her? And not by Donald the world class blowhard politician seeking to defend himself against against the citizen?

No, she sued him for defamation for his tweet that it was a con job.  He responded saying he was entitled to speak politically and hyperbolically because she was claiming he paid her off to keep her quiet so he could win the election, a political claim.  Anti-SLAPP applies because her defamation suit was (according to the judge) intended to stop him from engaging in this political discussion.

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3 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

No, she sued him for defamation for his tweet that it was a con job.  He responded saying he was entitled to speak politically and hyperbolically because she was claiming he paid her off to keep her quiet so he could win the election, a political claim.  Anti-SLAPP applies because her defamation suit was (according to the judge) intended to stop him from engaging in this political discussion.

Wow, I hope that's not what happened because that would be a real abomination of the purpose of that litigation (IMO). But thanks for the insight, it's an interesting possibility.

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Wow, I hope that's not what happened because that would be a real abomination of the purpose of that litigation (IMO). But thanks for the insight, it's an interesting possibility.

I was right.  It is an Anti-SLAPP motion.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/politics/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-lawsuit-dismissal/index.html

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Just now, Henry Ford said:

Wow Henry, spot on. I think that's terrible. That tool is supposed to be used to protect citizens from aggressive public officials and the powerful not the other way around.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Wow Henry, spot on. I think that's terrible. That tool is supposed to be used to protect citizens from aggressive public officials and the powerful not the other way around.

There are precious few fee-shifting statutes out there.  Figured it had to be this one.

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56 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Wow Henry, spot on. I think that's terrible. That tool is supposed to be used to protect citizens from aggressive public officials and the powerful not the other way around.

Henry is a pretty perspicacious fellow.

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The president was caught cheating on his wife with a porn star and he's crowing about having a lawsuit tossed. 

 I swear to God man. 

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7 minutes ago, Sheriff Bart said:

The president was caught cheating on his wife with a porn star and he's crowing about having a lawsuit tossed. 

 I swear to God man. 

Yeah but he made his fans chuckle by calling her horse face, so MAGA!

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11 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:

The president of the United States just called his former porn star mistress Horseface in an official communication to the public. 

Great times, eh? This is what we want?

The onion had an impressive headline about the term horseface today. 

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17 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's the totally uninformed part of his honesty which is often the problem.

I think "forthrightness" is a better word here

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17 hours ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

Also a better lover than me, or so my wife states.

The self wife burn. Rare move there Cotton. Let's see what happens.

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Privately, Trump not only thought it was strategically smart to call Stormy Daniels 'horseface'; he workshopped the insult before tweeting, Daily Beast reports.

He trial-ballooned it among aides. One source recalled Trump saying, "that ####### horseface."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-believed-his-stormy-daniels-horseface-tweet-was-politically-brilliant?ref=home

 

 :mellow:

Did Stormy Daniels face change that much since they had their, um, tryst? If not, then he must have a thing for porn actresses with equine features.

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9 minutes ago, squistion said:

Privately, Trump not only thought it was strategically smart to call Stormy Daniels 'horseface'; he workshopped the insult before tweeting, Daily Beast reports.

He trial-ballooned it among aides. One source recalled Trump saying, "that ####### horseface."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-believed-his-stormy-daniels-horseface-tweet-was-politically-brilliant?ref=home

 

 :mellow:

Did Stormy Daniels face change that much since they had their, um, tryst? If not, then he must have a thing for porn actresses with equine features.

The Onion:

Melania’s Heart Sinks After Realizing Husband Uses Pet Name ‘Horseface’ For Every Woman He *****

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Has it been mentioned in here yet that Stormy Daniels is the porn star on the VHS tape that Andy (Steve Carrell) attempts to masturbate to in “The 40 Year Old Virgin”?

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