SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I saw this exact claim made by a Trump proxy on CNN.
- This clip doesn't really do it justice because the pregnant pause was extended, it was like dead air time.
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Stormy Daniels scandal thread (2 Viewers)
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- This clip doesn't really do it justice because the pregnant pause was extended, it was like dead air time.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
- Donald Trump hasn't said Thing 1 about this yet.
Also the Clinton comp is hilarious. Donald Trump is like every thing ever made up about the Clintons or Obama brought to life. And he probably has a tweet about it to back it up. I really wish this was a tv show.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
- Davidson sounds like he is in on this little scam. That is where people who talk are sent to have their publicity locked up and the key thrown away.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Who are you going to believe a lying whore or Daniels?
Joe Summer
Footballguy
So....connecting some dots......."confidential information pertaining to alleged children".....
.....COULD MEAN: Trump told Stormy that he had a love child.
OR
Trump told Stormy that Ivanka was not his biological daughter.
.....COULD MEAN: Trump told Stormy that he had a love child.
OR
Trump told Stormy that Ivanka was not his biological daughter.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Apparently it's provided for in the contract.
- Here's the language.
- Which is kind of what I was talking about in terms of the contract being so ridiculously one sided,
- Also to my surprise and dismay the arbitrator seems like a normal decent ex-judge. Otoh the restraining order isn't much of one, it's described as "temporary," "interim," "emergency" and pending everything that could possibly be determined.
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Zow
Footballguy
I'm trying to find a nicer way to say that you're more obtuse than a triangle. I mean, come on, this would be a major story for any presidential administration. And you seriously don't know why rich men bang a bunch of women???
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I can’t tell if I’ll be more grossed out if that’s there because he has unacknowledged kids out of wedlock or because he and one of his kids both did the deed with Stormy.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
Those 20 women are clearly liars. Donald J Trump is the only person in all of this that has proven he doesn't lie and can be trusted.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
The entertainment value as Stormy looks for every possible loophole to land a massive payday, and Trump tries to fight it without actually admitting it happened should be incredible.
Unlike Mueller v Trump, this one is hard to handicap.
Unlike Mueller v Trump, this one is hard to handicap.
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SaintsInDome2006
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
The Indestructible
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
12 hours ago - A White House spokesperson said Wednesday that President Donald Trump has "denied all these allegations" after an attorney for an adult film actress who claims to have had a sexual relationship with him said there was “no question” the president was aware of a $130,000 payment made to the woman ...
Nothing made up about Clinton sexual assaults on Juanita or Paula or his lying about Monica.
I wish this was a tv show too
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
I know why many do - and I know why many women bang rich powerful men too. Do you ?
It was consented, adults having sex. Big deal. Clinton and Monica was a no story has Bill not lied about it. JFK was a womanizer. I doubt Carter/Reagan/Bush's were ..... I don't think Obama was. Trump absolutely is.
Sex scandals are all around DC, how much was that fund taxpayers set aside on seuxal harassment ? $15 mil or something was it?
ahhh $17 million
Why are we not talking about those? Those could have been crimes
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html
NREC34
Footballguy
Did you miss the part where he broke election laws when he paid her off?
Otherwise I guess you’re right. It’s a nothingburger.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
So now banging a pro while married to your 3rd wife then paying her off, excuse me having your friend pay her off while you deny everything, is just fine with the moral police republican country folk. Good to know!
The General
Footballguy
You just know Trump wrote this #### off as a business expense. Oh wait, we don't know because he didn't give up his taxes.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Yes, but a same-sex couple involved in a monogamous relationship built on trust, respect and mutual affection is an abomination in the eyes of the lord.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
MikeIke
Footballguy
Why is it suspicious? It's not like the campaign paid the exact same amount as the payoff to the pornstar young lady. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the numbers were so close together.
MikeIke
Footballguy
apalmer
Footballguy
Tell me what you think of Melania--you know, the nude model who married Trump because he was rich and powerful?
TheMagus
Footballguy
About that $130K payment from the campaign to Trump Org - I'm pretty sure @TobiasFunke provided some info on that a while back. That payment was in line with the other monthly payments that the campaign was making to "rent" space in Trump Tower for campaign operations. So it really is likely a coincidence that the number was so close and we have a report that Cohen is pissed because Trump never paid him back.
Now one could question the propriety of paying that kind of money directly into the candidates pocket out of campaign funds, but we are so far past the point where anything matters.
Now one could question the propriety of paying that kind of money directly into the candidates pocket out of campaign funds, but we are so far past the point where anything matters.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
That was about one particular item on the Trump campaign ledger for $130K and change around the same time, but on further examination it matched other fairly regular rent payments (the fact that the campaign was funneling millions of dollars of money raised from donors directly into the candidate's pockets should be its own scandal, but nothing matters any more). I'm not sure about these several payments between those days totaling around $130K, but that seems equally dubious. You could find a group of payments totaling $X pretty easily by tweaking the criteria here and there.
From what little I can tell the bigger legal problem is that the $130K is arguably an "in kind campaign donation" since it was for the purpose of influencing the election and therefore not reporting it was a violation of campaign finance laws. But people who know more about that stuff than I do said that probably won't amount to much
timschochet
Footballguy
Women in the suburbs.
Trump managed to escape the Access Hollywood Tale, but that was before the #metoo movement became formal. Now this Daniels affair appears to have been consensual, despite the payoff, but it does remind people of Trump’s attitudes and treatment of women in general. And you add this to the Republican endorsement of Roy Moore, Trump’s defense of his aide, and other similar stuff, and the question thus becomes: has the #metoo movement changed the attitudes of women in the suburbs? Enough so they’re going to punish Republicans in November?
I think the answer is yes. But we’ll find out...
Trump managed to escape the Access Hollywood Tale, but that was before the #metoo movement became formal. Now this Daniels affair appears to have been consensual, despite the payoff, but it does remind people of Trump’s attitudes and treatment of women in general. And you add this to the Republican endorsement of Roy Moore, Trump’s defense of his aide, and other similar stuff, and the question thus becomes: has the #metoo movement changed the attitudes of women in the suburbs? Enough so they’re going to punish Republicans in November?
I think the answer is yes. But we’ll find out...
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I had to laugh, Turley (Morning Joe this morning) who thinks the Russian investigation won't amount to much for Trump directly (the whole he's a known "scumbag" so it's really tough to prove intent when a law requires it) thinks THIS (his emphasis) a huge deal for Trump and there are so many problems with the agreement itself that Daniels has a case.That was about one particular item on the Trump campaign ledger for $130K and change around the same time, but on further examination it matched other fairly regular rent payments (the fact that the campaign was funneling millions of dollars of money raised from donors directly into the candidate's pockets should be its own scandal, but nothing matters any more). I'm not sure about these several payments between those days totaling around $130K, but that seems equally dubious. You could find a group of payments totaling $X pretty easily by tweaking the criteria here and there.
From what little I can tell the bigger legal problem is that the $130K is arguably an "in kind campaign donation" since it was for the purpose of influencing the election and therefore not reporting it was a violation of campaign finance laws. But people who know more about that stuff than I do said that probably won't amount to much
I do have to say this is a much easier story to explain and for people to follow especially with the lawsuit especially since everything that he did and Cohen did is 100% in character.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
But if Daniels wins her case what difference does that really make? Isn't she just asking for a declaratory judgment releasing her from the nondisclosure agreement? So if she wins that just means she can tell people about boning Trump, which she already did to In Touch back in 2011 anyway. Is there more to it than that?
I guess maybe it would be newly embarrassing for Trump, but I have a hard time believing it would matter to anyone who doesn't already disapprove of the president. The only people left in that category at this point are true believers, sleazy rich people and people who don't pay attention to politics at all and only care if the economy is in decent shape, and Daniels telling the ladies on The View about Don cheating with her while his new wife was home caring for their infant son won't change their minds.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I was only half listening, but I believe the argument he was making that on its face the entire arrangement/contract is a serious campaign finance law violation whether she wins her case or not (he made reference to the Edwards case in saying there was enough wiggle room there for him to get off, but this one is more of a slam dunk).
It was purely a legal point, not political (on that point the whole thing is salacious enough...even by today's standards...to keep in the news for awhile).
EDIT: one other point is that he thought this would probably be within Mueller's pervue since presumably he's investigating Cohen's actions vis a vis Russia and would have seen the payoff in his bank records.
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John Bender
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
At a ..... fancy restuarant no less where they serve "Craft Beer" like the elitist pigs they are.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Maybe we will find a Court to speak on, and potentially expand upon the law pertaining to contracts against public policy.
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Zow
Footballguy
My anecdotal take on this is absolutely not. Arizona suburban white women still seem to overwhelmingly support him.
The only way she passes on $130K, is if she has a bigger payday waiting.
Hell, Melania may be putting her up to this, if it means Melania gets a bigger divorce settlement.
Speaking of which, how would a Trump/Melania divorce play out in middle America? I have always assumed she has a financial incentive to stay with him during the presidency - i.e. he has paid her not to divorce him for the next 3 years. But, if he somehow breached that agreement - I could see that divorce get expensive for Trump pretty quick...
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I wonder if Ms. Daniels has considered starring in a completely fictional tale about a porn actress who meets a billionaire Oompa Loompa who has a dalliance with the porn star and then regrets the dalliance and tries to secure her discretion. Its a bit more exposition than in some adult films but it could work. Perhaps the final scene could be a courtroom scene where she employs her wiles, along with those of her buxom female lawyer to sway the Judge presiding at her arbitration. Now none of this, absolutely none, would be based upon current events or persons living or dead.
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I don't know, I like my porn stories to be more realistic, like if my stepmother gets her hand caught in the sink and then I sorta start sexually assaulting her but after a while it turns out she really likes it.
