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90s Movie Poll - 1999 The countdown has started! (1 Viewer)
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PIK95
Footballguy
Seriously? Both Were Very Good.I remember 0 about either movie and couldn't tell you for sure if I have seen them beginning to end.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Nobody's seen everything. I think I had when they came out, just don't remember a thing about them. I have Lock Stock at home now in my '98 research pile.
krista4
Footballguy
This stuff is funny. I thought it was about enjoying movies together and being introduced to new things - for instance, despite having 82 movies on my initial cut, I had never seen the Ang Lee movie mentioned though he is one of my favorites. I'm also intrigued by the chatter about Stir of Echoes and now want to check it out.
For others it's about "this is the best thing ever and you're stupid if you don't know that."
I realize many (most?) of my movies are lesser-known, and I'd be happy to chat about any of them., without judgment in either direction And I do love re-considering those many of us might have overlooked or forgotten, too. I just love sharing movies.
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Without seeing what the final product is like....i think what you are planning is fine. Frankly I just like talking about movies.
If you are looking for something to gauge the lower movies, and are willing, perhaps when you get to the final rankings you could also show how many lists had the movie. It might show how some movies while not scoring high were enjoyed by the larger group.
If you have 30 lists and The Matrix was on 20 lists getting 30 pts on each it's gonna be the top or near the top. But if those same 30 lists all have Notting Hill at 1 or 2 pts, it won't be high in total number, but it is interesting to note that everyone included it when they had to be selective in the use of their points.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Had meant to mention that I'm glad to see Mr Death up there. It was right on the edge for me.I remember liking it, but something holding me back a bit at the time- very well could have been Mr Deaths occupation.
I mentioned Limbo, but I don't recall seeing: Genghis, Wind, or Paradise either. Looking forward to seeing them.
Funny- I remember liking All About my Mother, but felt like I had reached a point of saturation with Almodovar (or maybe that's happened since and colored my judgement).
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
I'm trying dude, I'm trying.
That's what I was thinking you were getting at, but I remember 0 about either movie and couldn't tell you for sure if I have seen them beginning to end.
Would you two just #### already and get it over with. geez.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Thanks for the input. We will see how this goes. I might just have to take better notes for 98 (since I am computer inept, I am doing this by hand on notebooks), but I do have a fairly good idea of what you are talking about. Like you said, the top 5 are there because they are on a high % of lists, but the top 2 jumped ahead a lot because they got several more 20+pt votes vs. the others had more 5pt votes. Same with others at the bottom and that didn't make it. There are a few that might be sitting at <50pts, but they got 2-3 high point votes vs. others that are sitting at 45 that 12 votes of 4 or less. Stuff like that.
Next time I will at least try to keep track of how votes a movie got.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Ok... I need to watch this one again.
And maybe late night drink a little less
simey
Footballguy
I have never seen any of The Matrix movies or any Star Wars movie past Return of the Jedi.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
@krista4This stuff is funny. I thought it was about enjoying movies together and being introduced to new things - for instance, despite having 82 movies on my initial cut, I had never seen the Ang Lee movie mentioned though he is one of my favorites. I'm also intrigued by the chatter about Stir of Echoes and now want to check it out.
For others it's about "this is the best thing ever and you're stupid if you don't know that."
I realize many (most?) of my movies are lesser-known, and I'd be happy to chat about any of them., without judgment in either direction And I do love re-considering those many of us might have overlooked or forgotten, too. I just love sharing movies.
I hear you. In reality I am like part 1, but I probably get sucked into #2 too much as we poke fun at each other. Mostly it just interests me to talk about movies to see how differently people's minds work, how we view things differently, and how the baggage and personal experience we bring to the table factors into our takes on a movie. Perfect example is GMs rant about Eyes Wide Shut and his seeming rage about the plot of that movie being set off because the wife got angry and petty while smoking the reefer and that's not how people act while smoking said reefer. A thought similar to that had never entered my mind the few times that I had seen that movie.
I laughed when Floppo said that he trusts his '99 self more than he does now as I am the opposite. I was probably still watching too many Van Damme movies and ####ty horror sequels back then and didn't really turn the corner until around this time, but more in 2000 and on. I didn't reply before, but the 5 movies that I hadn't heard of on your list were: Color of Paradise, Wind Will Carry Us, Genghis, Mr. Death, and Limbo. After digging deeper and thinking about it, that makes sense because I honestly didn't start watching foreign movies or documentaries until about 2002 when I owned the video store, so big blind spot in my movie watching would be movies from those two genres pre-2000. I was instantly hooked after trying a doc and a foreign movie and remember the two that sucked me in: Amores Perros and Stevie. If I remember correctly we had a little discussion in a timdraft about Hoop Dreams (was I the judge for the doc category?), and I am guessing my latecomer status to the genre was part of the reason it didn't grab me like it did for others.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
1997 is going to be more interesting to me than 98. I have very specific war like opinions on the 1997 movie class with particular focus on the five Oscar nominated movies and how they should be perceived in something like this.
Yes I posted a random thought out of nowhere.
Yes, it's because I'm kinda antsy to see the final list.
Yes, there are probably better uses of my time while at work dangling the fate of several clients' lives at the moment.
Yes I posted a random thought out of nowhere.
Yes, it's because I'm kinda antsy to see the final list.
Yes, there are probably better uses of my time while at work dangling the fate of several clients' lives at the moment.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
You be avoided sitting through like 20 hours of movies for two good movies and a bunch of not so good*
*I haven't seen the latest Star Wars yet.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
@Northern Voice - you gonna submit one of these list things?You be avoided sitting through like 20 hours of movies for two good movies and a bunch of not so good*
*I haven't seen the latest Star Wars yet.
Also, I don't think you are off by much in your statement. I have a love/hate even with the first Matrix. It's fun, was groundbreaking, and I still love the core idea of it. That said, every time I see a slo-mo bullet time action scene in a movie now I want to scream because it's been so overdone and I hate The Matrix for bringing that to us. It's cool and makes sense in the universe of the Matrix, but it's horrible when it's a fight in the "real world". Even most fans of the original think the sequels are pretty bad besides the highway scene (I think in the 2nd?). Same with SW, especially 1-->3. You could watch 6 movies for about 2 movies worth of decent stuff.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I am interested to see this for different years and see if the way people do their lists look different.
Like I said, I started looking at 98 and it's the opposite of 97 for me. 98 maybe has 1-2 movies that I have a passion for, and a few others that I think are good, but that's about it. Actually looking at the movies that came out that year, it might have the highest concentration of "guilty pleasure" movies for me. 97 I have stated is one of my favorite years for movies and I think 4-5 movies of my overall top 20-30 movies come from that year and I think it's deep past that. There might be only 1 or 2 movies from 98 that would grade similar to the top 15 of 97 for me. So 98 will probably be a list of only 10 for me, but 97 will have a krista4 level list that I will have to try to trim down and make decisions on.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
PIK95
Footballguy
That's how I feel about 99. I think that AB and Cider are WAY above everything else and I'm taking it really personally that nobody else agrees. Deep breaths help. At least Notting and Election are getting some love.
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PIK95
Footballguy
I was surprised because I would have guessed you would have saw both at the movie store. I remember buying both at blockbuster, and saw Go at the theatre. No offense intended.
Edited to add I thought you had the store in the late 90's. That explains my confusion.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
Damn... 1987
Ok... I need to watch this one again.
And maybe late night drink a little less
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Neither of us are drinking now (at least I think?), and I still don't know what you are talking about.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Oh...Neither of us are drinking now (at least I think?), and I still don't know what you are talking about.
... Withnail and I
Todem
Footballguy
1. The Hurricane - 25
2. The Insider - 20
3. The Sixth Sense - 15
4. The Matrix - 15
5. Mystery Alaska - 15
6. Toy Story 2 - 15
7. For The Love of The Game - 15
8. The Muse - 10
9. Boy's Don't Cry - 10
10. American Beauty - 10
11. Office Space - 10
12. Go - 10
13. American Pie - 8
14. The Mummy - 5"/spoiler"
15. Detroit Rock City - 5
16. Any Given Sunday - 5
17. South Park Bigger, Longer, Uncut - 5
18. Fight Club - 5
19. Magnolia - 1
20. House On Haunted Hill - 1
2. The Insider - 20
3. The Sixth Sense - 15
4. The Matrix - 15
5. Mystery Alaska - 15
6. Toy Story 2 - 15
7. For The Love of The Game - 15
8. The Muse - 10
9. Boy's Don't Cry - 10
10. American Beauty - 10
11. Office Space - 10
12. Go - 10
13. American Pie - 8
14. The Mummy - 5"/spoiler"
15. Detroit Rock City - 5
16. Any Given Sunday - 5
17. South Park Bigger, Longer, Uncut - 5
18. Fight Club - 5
19. Magnolia - 1
20. House On Haunted Hill - 1
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
No offense taken on my part. There are gaps in movie watching for me for sure. I watched a ton in HS and College, but HS was mostly ####ty action and horror movies. I started to expand a little in college, but I was still behind the curve as far as the indie and award winning movies were concerned. Then I was in chiro school for a few years in the late 90s and that's when I had very little time to watch stuff. I think it was about 2000 when I worked at Blockbuster part time and started talking more about movies with the other employees and the managers about "better" stuff. Video store was 2003 I believe, so it was around then when I was watching my 10+ movies a week and catching up on everything (pre-children, of course).
Like I said, I think I watched them at some point, but my memory is trash and movies are blurring together.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Hey man, the reputations of movies like The Mummy and Blair Witch are at stake in here. You gotta bring the passion.
Todem
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
TripItUp
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I changed the thread title and the date. I got shuke's, Keith said he is updating his tomorrow, and NV will send me his favourites this weekend too. That will push it to about 35 lists and still gives 3 days for others who might be interested. I honestly wasn't expecting the #s and the quick responses, so thanks to all who sent a list and are going to send a list!!
I will start the countdown Monday morning.
I will start the countdown Monday morning.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Damn, man. Let's get through this one first!! (says the guy already researching for that year).
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Holy hell... I just looked at the total gross numbers for that year. I already see 40 movies I would rank.
PIK95
Footballguy
A top one was released in December 97 in Italy but Oct 98 here. We go by American release, right?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Good move skipping on the crappy Star Wars movies but the first Matrix is really good (though a first viewing now might not have the same magic since it’s been so copied and parodied at this point). Do not under any circumstances watch the second or third Matrix
rockaction
Footballguy
I love The Matrix and would have ranked it, but I missed it and I already posted my list and said "final."
So...
No Matrix!
So...
No Matrix!
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Vanilla Guerrilla
Footballguy
I looked through the 1998 list and saw Spice World, Air Bud; Golden Receiver, Night at the Roxbury and Chairman of the Board. Of course, now it's about allocating the points.
krista4
Footballguy
I agree that Mr. Death isn't Morris's best, but even his so-so is better than most anything else out there. BTW, I read my list and next 10 favorites to Mr krista after I'd submitted the list, and he said he would have given Mr. Death 30 points.
He was also outraged I'd left Audition, Topsy-Turvy and Office Space off my list.All About My Mother is my favorite Almodovar movie, though I'm in a definite minority there (Talk to Her seems to top most lists). Maybe give it another shot sometime?
Genghis Blues is a documentary about a Tuvan throat singer - I found it all so fascinating. The Wind Will Carry Us is a Kiarostami movie, which pretty much guarantees it will make any list of my favorites, though it's not my top choice of his works. The Color of Paradise is my second favorite film from that particular Iranian director (and I will not be surprised if I'm the only person with two Iranian movies on my list) - even better is Children of Heaven.
krista4
Footballguy
Yeah, after I posted that I remembered that we did vow to make fun of eachother, too.
I decided just to leave my post anyway. This thread is a great blend of everything - thanks to you for pulling this together and to everyone else for all the interesting discussion. And rants are always fun. On the five on my list you hadn't heard of, I did get four of them right, with the fifth being Limbo. I discussed your first three a little bit in my reply to Floppo above. Mr. Death is an Errol Morris documentary about a guy whose job was to consult with US prisons on execution techniques. As you might imagine, it's not for everyone! Limbo is a John Sayles movie, and one of my top three favorites of his.
simey
Footballguy
Outraged.
I don't have the first two movies on my list (I haven't seen them and didn't know about them), but I have Office Space ranked #7!
PIK95
Footballguy
Wiki says 98. It didn't even hit Cannes until May 98.
Just what imdb has by the title and wiki lists.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
@PIK95 - in the first sentence it reads "Life is Beautiful is a 1997 Italian comedy-drama. imdb also lists it as 1997 in the title. Keeping consistent, that means it has to wait until our 1997 draft. It must have been weird timing with it being released there very late in the year, so it probably wasn't submitted for festivals and awards until the following year. If Lock Stock is 1998 because of this, we have to move this movie to this year.
Also, I had to chuckle at the ratings - this has to be a rare foreign movie that scored with the awards but the imdb rating is higher than the metacritic. 8.6 vs. 59/100. I haven't seen it, so I can't comment on why that is, I just thought it was interesting.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I entered in Keith R's adjustments and got a list from on the rocks. Currently 1st and 2nd are separated by 3pts, and there was at least one movie that wasn't on the countdown yesterday that now shot up to the top 20. Also, it looks like the countdown cutoff might be 60 points instead of 50, as there are 30 movies at 60+ points. (so it could move up even farther is a few more lists come in.
TripItUp
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Yes, but it had a significant impact in cinema history, writing a new blueprint for low budget filmmakers. It's the main reason it just snuck onto the end of my list.Blair Witch was overrated crap and a waste of money in the theatre.
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