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Just now, Soonerman said:
53 minutes ago, the rover said:

Sorry gun guys, but being on the wrong side of history is going to suck for you for a while.

Hate to break it to you, but "history" doesn't have a side.

hate to break it back to you but it sure as hell does take that to the bank bromigo

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1 minute ago, Soonerman said:

Hate to break it to you, but "history" doesn't have a side.

Sure it does.  Just like slaveowners, people realize that some practices are outdated and violate basic human rights.  

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1 minute ago, SWC said:

hate to break it back to you but it sure as hell does take that to the bank bromigo

The recent history of presidential elections saw Barack Obama elected, then Donald Trump.  Which side was history on?  Did history change it's mind?

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1 minute ago, the rover said:

Sure it does.  Just like slaveowners, people realize that some practices are outdated and violate basic human rights.  

Yes, and people can change their minds back.  The relentless march of history in one direction is clearly a fallacy.

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1 minute ago, Soonerman said:

The recent history of presidential elections saw Barack Obama elected, then Donald Trump.  Which side was history on?  Did history change it's mind?

Death throes of racism, hopefully.

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So Trump tweets about the attack in France, but nothing about the march today?

Oh yeah, the attacker in France was Muslim 

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Just now, Soonerman said:
2 minutes ago, the rover said:

Sure it does.  Just like slaveowners, people realize that some practices are outdated and violate basic human rights.  

Yes, and people can change their minds back.  The relentless march of history in one direction is clearly a fallacy.

saying this in response to an example about slavery says an awful lot take that to the bank bromigo 

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It's ironic that the tool that the 2nd amendment was written about to protect us from 18th century tyranny, has become the 21st century tyrant the people are now revolting from.

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6 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

Hate to break it to you, but "history" doesn't have a side.

 

No historian will agree with this. History is not just a list of facts that happened, in order. History has a context, it always has a POV, and it's never truly unbiased.

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Just now, Soonerman said:

Of course they are, but I'm not the one claiming that any constitutional rights are wedded to the exact technology that existed at the time of the founders.

 

Context matters. 

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2 hours ago, KCitons said:

Is that what Politician Spock wants? 

But since you asked. How do you define military style assault weapons?

Semi automatic centerfire rifles capable of using a magazine of over ten rounds. 

I can go fifteen if that’s too extreme. 

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12 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

Hate to break it to you, but "history" doesn't have a side.

History has winners and losers. The losers were on the wrong side of history. It's a figure of speech, not meant to be taken literally. 

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I marched in Baltimore today with my 4 year old twins. Smallish crowd, maybe 1000 people, mostly white in a city that's majority black. Lots of kids, some millennials, and some early boomers (60+ years). Not many Gen X or late baby boomers 40-50 year olds.

Lots of this is due to proximity to DC and the demographics of this city, not to mention the organisational outreach of the people to various groups and the recent history of protest in this city.

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15 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

Does this mean we don't have the right to free speech except for the printed word and the soap box in the public square?

 

13 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

Hate to break it to you, but "history" doesn't have a side.

 

12 minutes ago, SWC said:

hate to break it back to you but it sure as hell does take that to the bank bromigo

 

9 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

The recent history of presidential elections saw Barack Obama elected, then Donald Trump.  Which side was history on?  Did history change it's mind?

 

8 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

Yes, and people can change their minds back.  The relentless march of history in one direction is clearly a fallacy.

 

3 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

Of course they are, but I'm not the one claiming that any constitutional rights are wedded to the exact technology that existed at the time of the founders.

 

Look how scared you are.

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3 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

 

No historian will agree with this. History is not just a list of facts that happened, in order. History has a context, it always has a POV, and it's never truly unbiased.

Herbert Butterfield disagrees.

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7 minutes ago, Politician Spock said:

History has winners and losers. The losers were on the wrong side of history. It's a figure of speech, not meant to be taken literally. 

But plenty of people apparently do take it literally.

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i knew a guy named herb we called him erb like he was rosemary or thyme anyhow he had a pretty sweet old ford crapri and one thing he always said was history has winners and losers so in your face butterfield im takin erb in this one take that to the bank bromigos 

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Just now, Soonerman said:

But plenty of people apparently do take it literally.

So far just you.

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Just now, Soonerman said:

But plenty of people apparently do take it literally.

Literally speaking, the 2nd amendment protects ownership of bazookas, tanks, and nuclear weapons. 

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9 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

Herbert Butterfield disagrees.

Oh boy “Whig History”.

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4 minutes ago, the rover said:

So far just you.

You must not have read ConnSKINS26's post.

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1 minute ago, Politician Spock said:
2 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

But plenty of people apparently do take it literally.

Literally speaking, the 2nd amendment protects ownership of bazookas, tanks, and nuclear weapons. 

or does it just mean that you can wear a tshirt with the sleeves ripped off i mean can you even imagine if we could bring back old tj and he was like uh yeah we just couldnt spell our bad sorry it was just about shirts take that to the bank bromigos 

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I guess if your argument has become so obviously vapid that you start saying that history doesn't have sides then that's actually a good sign.

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1 minute ago, SWC said:

or does it just mean that you can wear a tshirt with the sleeves ripped off i mean can you even imagine if we could bring back old tj and he was like uh yeah we just couldnt spell our bad sorry it was just about shirts take that to the bank bromigos 

Actually, with the spelling used, it protects your right to rip the arms off of a furry omnivore and keep them. 

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2 minutes ago, Soonerman said:

You must not have read connSKINS26's post.

To the extent that history has a context, he’s right.  As civilization progresses, certain concepts become universally recognized as unacceptable.  The people that cling to those concepts are in the wrong side of history.  Slavery was one.  Racism is one. Guns will prove to be another.  

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Just now, bananafish said:

I guess if your argument has become so obviously vapid that you start saying that history doesn't have sides then that's actually a good sign.

Something perfect about the state of the Republican Party that he’s citing a professor from Cambridge, too. 

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Just now, Henry Ford said:
3 minutes ago, SWC said:

or does it just mean that you can wear a tshirt with the sleeves ripped off i mean can you even imagine if we could bring back old tj and he was like uh yeah we just couldnt spell our bad sorry it was just about shirts take that to the bank bromigos 

Actually, with the spelling used, it protects your right to rip the arms off of a furry omnivore and keep them. 

see at least that would be fair now we could tell the nra guys yeah it ends up it was not about guns so for being wrong your punishment is you have to go and try to rip the arms off of that there grizzly and without a gun let us know how it turns out take that to the bank bromigos 

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Just now, Henry Ford said:

Something perfect about the state of the Republican Party that he’s citing a professor from Cambridge, too. 

I'm a libertarian.

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6 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Here is the conservative response from American Thinker: 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/mindless_march_for_our_lives_gun_control_kids_have_bigger_worries_than_guns.html

”Mindless, arrogant adolescent puppets”. 

Seems accurate.  

Democrats now trotting out and hiding behind kids and hookers/porn stars.  Seems like a brand new low for them.  Well, maybe not.

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Just now, Soonerman said:

I'm a libertarian.

Ah, how shocking.   A Gary Johnson voter.  I never saw that coming. 

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2 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

Actually, with the spelling used, it protects your right to rip the arms off of a furry omnivore and keep them. 

A not very well known fact is that at that time there was a chain restaurant called Buffalo Bear Arms. 

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Just now, tosberg34 said:

Seems accurate.  

Democrats now trotting out kids and hookers/porn stars.  Seems like a brand new low for them.  Well, maybe not.

Who are the hookers?

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Just now, Henry Ford said:
2 minutes ago, tosberg34 said:

Seems accurate.  

Democrats now trotting out kids and hookers/porn stars.  Seems like a brand new low for them.  Well, maybe not.

Who are the hookers?

and wouldnt that make trump a john well i say lock him up in that case take that to the bank brohans 

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Just now, Henry Ford said:

Ah, how shocking.   A Gary Johnson voter.  I never saw that coming. 

Yeah, I actually voted for someone that wasn't corrupt to the bone like the offerings from the major parties.

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Just now, Soonerman said:

Yeah, I actually voted for someone that wasn't corrupt to the bone like the offerings from the major parties.

It’s pretty amazing with the number of votes he got according to this board that he had such a low percentage of the total vote. 

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Great sign at the Seattle march:  “I’ve seen better cabinets at IKEA”

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Just now, Henry Ford said:

It’s pretty amazing with the number of votes he got according to this board that he had such a low percentage of the total vote. 

There's no reason to think that posters on this board are representative of the population at large.

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3 minutes ago, tosberg34 said:

Seems accurate.  

Democrats now trotting out and hiding behind kids and hookers/porn stars.  Seems like a brand new low for them.  Well, maybe not.

Donald Trump getting involved with hookers or porn stars while he was married and after Baron was born is fine with you, but the Democrats publicizing it is a new low? Okie Dokie Pokie.

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1 minute ago, Soonerman said:
2 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

It’s pretty amazing with the number of votes he got according to this board that he had such a low percentage of the total vote. 

There's no reason to think that posters on this board are representative of the population at large.

thats true because if i went by the number of aliases the far right guys uh i mean gary johnson libertarian votes around here use every republican i met in real life would have multiple personality disorder take that to the bank brohans 

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3 minutes ago, SWC said:

thats true because if i went by the number of aliases the far right guys uh i mean gary johnson libertarian votes around here use every republican i met in real life would have multiple personality disorder take that to the bank brohans 

I don't post here that often, but I don't see a whole lot of Johnson voters.  The vast majority look like they voted for Hillary, a smaller number voted for Trump, and I couldn't name one other person on here that voted for Johnson.

This is my perception anyway.

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16 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Here is the conservative response from American Thinker: 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/mindless_march_for_our_lives_gun_control_kids_have_bigger_worries_than_guns.html

”Mindless, arrogant adolescent puppets”. 

 

I love it.  The ultra right is so terrified of these kids that that they have to insult them.    

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Plus Time Magazine's 2018 Person of the Year Award:

Roland Scahill‏Verified account @rolandscahill 3h

The kids from Parkland should seriously get the Nobel Peace Prize for this movement

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